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I feel like one of the biggest impediments in our movement for sex-based rights is the lack of books that include these concepts. These include just basic fiction books for all ages, but also in the toddler to high school age. I have a child and the amount of toddlers books I've seen at local children's book stores about gender identity is unbelievable. I've been thinking of writing a young adult book about a girl who joins her the feminists club at her high school only to have it overrun by gender identity ideology, I have the beginning of a draft written but I'm not sure how to get it workshopped. Also I have some concerns that I may be a social pariah if I try to publish it under my name and that it may affect my profession, and so I'd like feedback on what is the process of getting things published under an assumed name.

I'd also like to support other writer's. Honestly I look at some of the posts we link every day on the main ovarit page, it's all incredible fodder for satire novels or humorous exchanges or powerful/meaningful exchanges in novels. So much of it is stranger than fiction. I feel like I'm reading snippets from a gender identity ideology confederacy of dunces. Why can't we use this to our benefit? Sometimes the best way to peak others is to use stories, often humorous. Because it's all absolutely ridiculous that it would be hilarious if it didn't have such consequences.

Any writer's on Ovarit? Do you belong to any writer's groups? How are you navigating the writing and publishing process?

I feel like one of the biggest impediments in our movement for sex-based rights is the lack of books that include these concepts. These include just basic fiction books for all ages, but also in the toddler to high school age. I have a child and the amount of toddlers books I've seen at local children's book stores about gender identity is unbelievable. I've been thinking of writing a young adult book about a girl who joins her the feminists club at her high school only to have it overrun by gender identity ideology, I have the beginning of a draft written but I'm not sure how to get it workshopped. Also I have some concerns that I may be a social pariah if I try to publish it under my name and that it may affect my profession, and so I'd like feedback on what is the process of getting things published under an assumed name. I'd also like to support other writer's. Honestly I look at some of the posts we link every day on the main ovarit page, it's all incredible fodder for satire novels or humorous exchanges or powerful/meaningful exchanges in novels. So much of it is stranger than fiction. I feel like I'm reading snippets from a gender identity ideology confederacy of dunces. Why can't we use this to our benefit? Sometimes the best way to peak others is to use stories, often humorous. Because it's all absolutely ridiculous that it would be hilarious if it didn't have such consequences. Any writer's on Ovarit? Do you belong to any writer's groups? How are you navigating the writing and publishing process?

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[–] lucrecia 7 points (+7|-0)

I write as a hobby. Currently on here procrastinating from writing a shortish satire on the current situation; you're right that there is a lot of material! Though also the reality is so ridiculous, it's quite hard to satirise. It's a bit frustrating suspecting that in 20 years, some bloke will make millions off a subpar book about the whole mess and will be lauded as a genius.

I write 3 main sorts of things atm:

  • feminist original short pieces/parodies

  • fanfic

  • longer original work that isn't particularly feminist (just drafted a novel, idk what to do with it now because don't really want to go near publishing at the moment :P)

I know we have other writers on here. It's less clear where to publish. I'd like to find a space where people can share all kinds of writing, just with a shared understanding that it's not ok to harass writers if they are feminists. Atm it feels like if you want to be paid for your work, you either have to write in a publication about feminism, or in one which condones harassment against women and the repeal of women's rights. I want a place for lightweight adventure stories and soforth in a publication that doesn't hate women.

In terms of writers' groups, I'm not involved with any atm. I tend to have most of my writing discussions in fanfic comments (and post here a bit, of course!).

I agree this would be ideal to have our own publishing place, just a place to publish good writing that won't pre-cancel us.

Maybe we should wrote to JK Rowling and ask her to start up a feminist publishing house....

[–] Reno 6 points (+6|-0)

Also I have some concerns that I may be a social pariah if I try to publish it under my name and that it may affect my profession

You would. The publishing industry not only has drunk the Koolaid, they peddle it.

There are writers here, including some relatively well-known ones, but they're incognito for obvious reasons.

[–] BathMat 3 points (+3|-0)

I write, have had some poetry published a long time ago, also working on a first draft of novel and various short stories but nothing prose fiction published yet. I’d be very interested in a women’s/feminist writing circle or a collaborative short story anthology or anything really. Would be very happy to do a bit of mutual workshopping of drafts!

[–] Lilypad9999 [OP] 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

This sounds great to me to do writing circle or workshopping, any way you can think of that it would be safe to do this since it is the internet after all....how do other sites do this?

I'd be into it, for sure. I've been waiting to see a space for writers show up here. :)

I'm a writer! I don't belong to any writer's groups, really. There was a Meetup group that I belonged to, but I haven't been to their Zoom meetups for months. I self publish all my books.

whats it like to self publish? Do you end up recouping the costs or does it end up being an expense? And how do you market it? If you feel comfortable post or dm me a title of your book, I'd love to take a look at your work!

I have definitely recouped the costs. It all depends on your ability to market. If you're curious about self publishing, start researching book marketing and start learning now. I have a background in online marketing so I knew what to do before I started.

Sorry - I try to stay anonymous here. :)

Yes I understand! Would you maybe consider putting together a list of tips for women on here who want to self-publish rad fem works but can't find a traditional publisher? Based on the responses of this thread, looks like I'm not the only one looking into this, and maybe if more of us knew how to do the self-publishing route we could get more rad fem literature out there.

[–] KateKnit 1 points (+1|-0)

I'd love to hear more about your writing, too, but understand if you are keeping yourself anonymous on here you may not want to post links to your work. Would you be able to give an account of how you went about self-publishing? (As that presumably could still be anonymous.)

Having read how queer theory has the publishing industry in its thrall, I know I'll never get traditionally published as I write female protagonists who have female biology. A YA novel I submitted to agents mentioned periods and FGM in the first chapter, so the fragile soul who opened my email probably had to be taken for emergency reapplication of blue hair dye whilst a circle formed around xem to chant 'Trans women are women.' I also wrote a book for younger children once and got feedback on it from agents - they liked my writing style but questioned having a young, female protagonist being so interested in science. Wouldn't it be better if the young female was the one asking the questions and not knowing anything, they wondered. They could suspend disbelief enough to deal with the talking animals, but girl animals being interested in science!? That was a step too far.

So, yes, we really need a women-focused publishing house, but in the meantime, I would love to support women writers by buying their self-published books.

Sounds like you're the perfect author to be self publishing! Maybe start by reading blogs and listening to podcasts about self publishing. It's really the best way to go if you actually want to make money from your books.

I appreciate your support, but I try to stay anonymous here. :)

[–] KateKnit 1 points (+1|-0)

It really doesn't take much to become a social pariah these days - just saying that rapists shouldn't be put in women's prisons was enough to make some people I knew stop talking to me. It's not the social punishment part of TRA tactics I worry about, they don't stop at trying to exert social pressure. There was a woman who ran a mobile physio (I think) service who thought it was important to know the difference between male and female bodies - TRAs phoned her and made threats of violence if she didn't recant, then they set fire to her vehicle. So, yes, publishing under a pen name would be a good idea for safety.

[–] catspls 1 points (+1|-0)

I think that would be cool. I wouldn't call myself a writer per say as I don't really write (due to a combination of a lack of motivation due to depression and always beating myself up whenever I do make myself write something), but I've always been interested in it, it's basically my biggest dream. And I would really like to finally do it. It would be nice to have a circle of like-minded women who I could get some writing tips and feedback from.