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Statement this morning from Josh Moon after the site was abruptly dropped by their host in Russia. It does not bode well for freedom of speech on the Internet, or in general, and will only serve to embolden far more authoritarian regimes. This little bird was the canary in the coal mine and now it's dead.

In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up.

I want to appraise our situation frankly.

Domain Registrar: Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company.

DDoS Mitigation: DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.

Resource Allocation: I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening.

Hosting: We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours.

This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.

This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country.

And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.

More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed.

I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer.

Essentially what he's saying is that Xi and Putin alike are cheering this right now. I know I will always remember where I was when the 9/11 of the Internet happened. And once again, I feel like the terrorists have won.

Statement this morning from Josh Moon after the site was abruptly dropped by their host in Russia. It does not bode well for freedom of speech on the Internet, or in general, and will only serve to embolden far more authoritarian regimes. This little bird was the canary in the coal mine and now it's dead. > In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up. > I want to appraise our situation frankly. > Domain Registrar: > Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because **I do not have faith in any company.** > DDoS Mitigation: > DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. **The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best.** I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation. > Resource Allocation: > I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be **unprecedented in the history of the Internet,** and considering **China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades.** There is a non-zero chance of this happening. > Hosting: > We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours. > This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. **Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.** > This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates **any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship.** It is a **massive amalgamation of various interests.** I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, **I am powerless alone.** There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country. > **And what this machine will not accept is compromise.** If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. **They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.** > More importantly, **they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral.** It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed. > **I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate.** It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer. Essentially what he's saying is that Xi and Putin alike are cheering this right now. I know I will always remember where I was when the 9/11 of the Internet happened. And once again, I feel like the terrorists have won.

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It is still accessible, but the traffic/reach is obviously much more limited. Josh has also expressed a disinclination to keep the site exiled to the dark web, though other users right now are trying to get him to reconsider that.

The question for the future is what happens if the scorched-earth campaigners really go nuclear as he said in his post, seizing the IP allocation under Australian law, which would effectively fracture the Internet at its most rudimentary levels of operation, and in such a way that countries like China would be thrilled. It would also mean that they can't get online through Tor anymore, because even that requires IP allocation. And as Josh said it would set an incredibly dangerous precedent for the future of any dissent anywhere on earth.

For now, at least, you can still access KF through either a dedicated Tor browser or the Brave browser, which is much easier if you're an everyday normie browsing the Internet (you just hit Alt+Shift+N or Option+Command+N on Mac). It remains to be seen how much longer that stays in place.

Thank you!

Thank you also for explaining the further dangers. What always baffles me is how even the people who don’t care about this particular issue don’t realize that if you can do it to Mumsnet or KF, you can do it to anybody. All of the people cheering it on, or not caring, really think it could never happen to them or to a cause they value. Does nobody read history anymore? Or think?

Feelz over realz is the new governing ethos. No, they don't think, not at all, and history is in the process of being rewritten so as to be more wokeish. See George Orwell and Martin Niemoller for where this leads to.

Agreed, they really don't give a shit. They WANT history to be re-written. They want to never have to think about or be faced with anything 'problematic' ever again. Just want to live in their little woke utopia (dystopia) bubble.