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Statement this morning from Josh Moon after the site was abruptly dropped by their host in Russia. It does not bode well for freedom of speech on the Internet, or in general, and will only serve to embolden far more authoritarian regimes. This little bird was the canary in the coal mine and now it's dead.

In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up.

I want to appraise our situation frankly.

Domain Registrar: Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company.

DDoS Mitigation: DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.

Resource Allocation: I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening.

Hosting: We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours.

This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.

This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country.

And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.

More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed.

I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer.

Essentially what he's saying is that Xi and Putin alike are cheering this right now. I know I will always remember where I was when the 9/11 of the Internet happened. And once again, I feel like the terrorists have won.

Statement this morning from Josh Moon after the site was abruptly dropped by their host in Russia. It does not bode well for freedom of speech on the Internet, or in general, and will only serve to embolden far more authoritarian regimes. This little bird was the canary in the coal mine and now it's dead. > In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up. > I want to appraise our situation frankly. > Domain Registrar: > Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because **I do not have faith in any company.** > DDoS Mitigation: > DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. **The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best.** I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation. > Resource Allocation: > I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be **unprecedented in the history of the Internet,** and considering **China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades.** There is a non-zero chance of this happening. > Hosting: > We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours. > This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. **Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.** > This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates **any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship.** It is a **massive amalgamation of various interests.** I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, **I am powerless alone.** There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country. > **And what this machine will not accept is compromise.** If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. **They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.** > More importantly, **they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral.** It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed. > **I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate.** It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer. Essentially what he's saying is that Xi and Putin alike are cheering this right now. I know I will always remember where I was when the 9/11 of the Internet happened. And once again, I feel like the terrorists have won.

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Keffals is a man.

His name is Lucas.

He ran a Discord server called the Cat Boy Ranch.

He invited minors to his Discord server.

He had sexual relationships with these minors and sent them sex toys.

He along with his TIM boyfriend, made homemade DIY hormones.

He sent these drugs to the minors in his Discord server.

Lucas/Keffals is a pedophile with major connections who want to help cover up his history.

The internet and free speech will come to an end, all to protect a bunch of pedophilic Buffalo Bills.

I hope the archive link I have of that KF thread with all that proof of him being a creep still works after this.

The site and all threads are still up via Tor, save everything you might need! If you want the onion link it's on the Telegram channel, or just PM me.

[–] Iota_Aurigae 12 points Edited

Oh, I've never stepped foot on that website. Just came across an archived copy of their thread on Keffals being a creep.

No matter what the future of KF holds, everyone here knows all of these things and can cause other people to know them.

And even if every trace of KF was wiped from the Internet, we all forgot it existed and the servers it was hosted on were destroyed, none of it would ever make Keffals a woman.

Ovarit can never, ever, EVER have open registration. Ever.

I think accounts that haven't posted should also be removed or restricted in some way. New accounts should have their comments pending approval if they aren't already. We need to start preparing for the same stupid games they played on KF.

We don't dox people here. We're more palatable to the average person than KF. But that isn't enough. They will come for us for daring to see the cult for what it is.

100%

Anthony/Erin Reed (@erininthemorn on twitter) has posted screenshots in the past of threads from Ovarit that show he has an account that was logged in. He’s more careful to log out before posting screenshots now, but he’s obsessed with reading these threads and trying to bully women into pretending he’s not a narcissistic male with the most stereotypical toxic male traits. 🙄

Tony if you’re reading this, please stop being such a degenerate online. You have a young son and you’re setting him up for a lifetime of resentment and therapy.

Gross, that fuck managed to get an invite here? Really have to wonder who the fuck gave them one, or who fooled screening processes so well.

Remember that Erin the Moron skinwalks a litte girl from his childhood, including stealing her name. You're a creep, "Erin". And you'll stay male, and die male.

also don't forget that Erin is a convicted felon and provides info as to where kids can get HRT without their parents knowing (or something equally groomery i forget the exact details)

[–] KissMyOvaries 29 points Edited

This is why the account that gave out the invite to the offending party should end up restricted. If not then the whole site could go down.

THIS is the kind of shit that happens when people hand out codes willy nilly on Preddit just because one (so called?) lesbian says “I don’t like dick!” Oh, “she” says “she” is a lesbian and she doesn’t like dick? Invite her to Ovarit!

Sigh.

And his son will hopefully get the fuck away from him once he hits 18 and never deal with the creep again. 😒 Hope the kid can survive relatively emotionally unscathed

I see the twitter thread. Someone is accusing Ovarit of encouraging people to call in bomb threats to hospitals. Never, ever seen that here at all.

Isn't Erin Reed that creep that tweeted being obsessed with being the little girl with butterfly wings he met as a child? What a weirdo.

He mentioned her in a recent tiktok again, dressed up for some medieval fair. Oh and he recently also uploaded a selfie with fucking fairy wings. I know this thanks to his thread ofc ;)

I've literally never not once interacted with or heard of this person and yet I'm blocked off Twitter - how??

They have "terf block lists" that they pass around to each other to help "stay safe" (doesn't that just make you want to laugh and/or cry?) They want to exist in their bubble, but not let anyone else have their own safe spaces.

Does anyone know how the invite code system works? I was under the impression you needed to have upvoted posts to generate them, but it would be ease itself for TIMs to spout out things like "men will never be women!", get upvoted, and then generate more codes for other TIMS. Of course, just making accounts and not posting isn't the end of the world, but the idea that TIMS are still in the background, quietly seething and indulging in their weird rape/violent fantasies, is creepy af.

[–] Lilith 33 points Edited

They will always find some kind of loophole. Screening posts is the only thing that will stop them from posting illegal content for a pretext. But seriously it takes no effort to make up lies and have them repeated as facts so any restrictions we put in place will never be enough. Look at what happened with Super Straight. A single screenshot of an anonymous post on 4chan was used as proof that the whole movement was a far-right hate campaign, when it was started by average straight dudes on Tik Tok. And every social media site responded by banning and suppressing it.

You could literally remove the codes and make them by request only for accounts in good standing? I mean, it’s be a pain…

And that asshole often crops or selectively edits those screenshots to take people out of context to "prove" we want to kill all gays/jews/whatever.

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Yeah, it was some sleeper account that was parked for the perfect opportunity.

In 15 minutes, someone was able to post a fake threat on 4chan. Post in KF. Get screenshotted by the TIM grifter and posted on his Twitter. Had the post removed from KF. Have Cloudflare drop and usurp the domain with a hasty written excuse. And get several mainstream media outlets to post ready-made articles on KF being down.

It was shared on Twitter 2 minutes after being posted on KF. The Twitter user and KF sleeper are likely the same person and should be investigated.

Even if the conclusion was reached that they're the same person, there's unfortunately no guarantee that anyone would listen. I hate that.

technically it was shared like 12-13 minutes after being posted on kf, no? or was the just the keffals share? (the post was 11 minutes old in that screenshot). wouldn’t be surprised if the twitter army got to it sooner though, i’m sure some of the devotees were monitoring that thread and posting immediately.

one of the kf janitors confirmed that the post was up for a grand total of 14 minutes and was deleted by the poster themself (not mods). v shady that the account had been inactive for 2 years prior to this week. what a transparent false threat.

& utterly pathetic for cloudflare to use that as their excuse for folding.

I believe newly registered members' comment should be invisible to lurkers. That would deter trolls who come here to start shit and embarrass Ovarit.

[–] terfzilla 45 points Edited

I'm new and I lurk a lot in order to get a feel for the tone of the community before I start posting. I've also only posted a few times because I don't have a whole lot to say, but I vote on everything.

Hiding new accounts might be a deterrent for actual women who join; for example, I'm working hard to try to build trust and gain levels so I can post more than comments. I'm also a little shy so I'm not posting a whole lot, so it is slow going. The end result is that I don't use Ovarit as much as I use Spinster or other feminist social media.

There definitely needs to be safeguards and gatekeeping, but shadowbanning or hiding new accounts might backfire on legitimate women in need.

She just said to lurkers, meaning other logged in users could see it but randos hanging out and not logged in could not. I don't know how easy that is from a technical perspective on a comment level, thought is totally doable on a post level. That being said, a common MO of these assholes is to post objectionable content themselves, and it's not that hard to screenshot in a way that hides that you're the one who posted it, or to use an alt that is logged in and ready to screenshot the objectionable post quickly, so it wouldn't prevent exactly the kind of false flagging they like to do anyway.

YES! Open registration would KILL Ovarit! We'd be bombarded by scrotes and trolls posting vile shit. And, just like with KF, some Keffals minion will post doxing content here and that'll be used as an excuse to ban the site (even if the doxing content is deleted within 5 minutes and the person posting it is banned).

I know limiting the functions of a new account makes lots of extra work for the mods. But they have to be prepared to do it if we get an influx of these people

[–] Tq231442 31 points Edited

They're definitely coming for us and I GUARANTEE they'll do it trying to rip the group apart via standard right-wing-vs-left-wing and race wars, as they always do

It doesn't matter what we have or haven't done. They'll just make it up anyway and then all of the news stations will reiterate the lies.

These foolish reporters believe the lie that white "trans women" are the most fragile and vulnerable people in the world. Meanwhile, Jennifer Pritzker donates more billions of cash to the ACLU. The Ts have full control of the story right now.

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No one can call themselves "the most vulnerable people in the world" and at the same time have so much power.

TIMs are not the most oppressed. They are the most powerful. The killing of the farms is proof of that.

If a group of women were being threatened, a. nobody would care, and b. we wouldn’t have the social or other resources to get websites shut down.

You want the real female experience, TIMs? Live with online abuse. That’s part of being a woman in the 21st C. Being able to silence your critics - even when they’re accurately documenting what you do or say - is male privilege.

There are a couple of factors that tie those oppressed folx to the world's most powerful group hmm what could they be...

I really hope he manages to get it back up. He has a will of iron so am optimistic. I didn't like it to start with but came to value their bluntness overtime especially as more and more women started using the site. Josh mentioned a huge influx of women a couple of years ago.

It doesn't matter that we 'behave' over here they want us gone. There was some shocking stuff in the Farms but it was pointing out the child grooming and paedophilia of the trans that did it.

I also really appreciated Josh's blanket ban of porn.

Me too, about the porn. He's on record on his streams saying he bans it to make the site less hostile to the female users. You can tell he was raised by a strong single mother (he's also on record explaning that).

[–] itazurakko 47 points Edited

Women started going there in greater numbers (some of us were there all along...) when other forums where it's ok to talk about the negatives of modern gender ideology, and the shenanigans of some of its biggest names, were shut down one by one. Lots of women joined when Reddit purged all the GC and actual feminist groups.

Are there subforums that make fun of feminists? Sure. I can hold my own, though. Is there racism? Yeah. Ditto, and I scroll on by it, plus just generally not going into threads where that stuff was remotely the main focus.

But I will say, I had some of the most nuanced conversations I've been able to have, about the trans stuff, over there, including actually compassionate discussion about Jazz Jennings' situation when all the various TV chat boards were banning all talk of it. A lot of that had crude language (they are very unkind about the results of transgender body modifications over there LOL) but the core of it was solid. They had no rules about being nice, or having any specific correct ideology or politics, and it was kinda refreshing.

And yeah. This isn't about some specific incident, this is about wanting certain opinions scrubbed. There's a reason they say they're going after Mumsnet next -- it's because Mumsnet doesn't ban for "transphobia" and doesn't care if you "misgender" people, and freely airs all manner of dirty pink semen-stained laundry. Particularly in the various "here's my horror story after my husband came out as trans" threads.

If this shuts down there will be some other place. Some other forum that until now people considered "beyond the pale" will acquire the "refugees" and have its stigma lessened as a result. At which point, it will become the next target.

Horrible as they were, I was actually impressed by how many men on KF were inspired to stop watching porn. Part of it was Dicky No Worky, but some of it was understanding the horrible nature of the porn business. If Josh could motivate the kind of heartless assholes that were on there to stop watching porn- it provided a great value.

[–] crodish 17 points Edited

A bunch of posters who went through the SRS/GRS horrors thread also commented saying that thread was what made them reconsider the surgeries, and at best, stop buying into the lie of transgenderism altogether. And man, the shit on that thread, that is just reuploads of what trans-identified people posted publicly themselves, is the fucking wildest shit. It's libsoftiktok all over again. They're not even going after content creators - they're going after archivals.

“There's a reason they say they're going after Mumsnet next -- it's because Mumsnet doesn't ban for "transphobia" and doesn't care if you "misgender" people“

I hate to disillusion anyone, but Mumsnet moderators have been banning women for YEARS for “misgendering” and “phobias.”

The feminists still posting on MN FWR know what’s up, but they are very careful now to moderate their language in order to avoid deletion and/or banning. A number of star posters are now either banned or just walked away.

I still think it’s a valuable place to talk to a more general audience (in addition to niche spaces like Ovarit); it’s the place where I first noticed what was going on, after all.

That's unfortunate to hear, but agreed it's a good place to talk to the more general audience.

I pop in there from time to time and very much recognized a LOT of the transwidow stuff. It needs to be out there.

I am wondering if the stampede of women is what has caused the downfall. Wherever women who don't bow down try and congregate outraged men follow and cause trouble. (Sorry about that Josh!) I wish I had saved a few posts now there was some amazing terf/swerf stuff on there.

I am wondering if the stampede of women is what has caused the downfall. Wherever women who don't bow down try and congregate outraged men follow and cause trouble. (Sorry about that Josh!)

I'm sure punishing the GC female refugees was part of it. But I think they mainly targeted KF because they kept immaculate receipts of all the creepy shit that TIMs like Yaniv and Keffals did

Yeah. Parts of it became positively kind and gentle and we can't have that amidst our shit posting...

" it's because Mumsnet doesn't ban for "transphobia" and doesn't care if you "misgender" people"

yes they do, they just don't tell you why you are getting banned, in fact they don't tell you anything at all, they quietly leave you to say whatever you like while taking score then suddenly ban you without a word as to why. thats why so many people on mumsnet come back time after time with different names, they talk, they swear, they misgender and so on, they get randomly banned, they make a new account and carry on, its the way things are over there no one actually knows what is or isn't allowed the rules are clear as mud so they can do whatever they like and people just get used to it and take it on the chin.

Nothing that I use can become a target because it is decentralized and encrypted out the ass. Over a dozen Ovarit users have already joined me there and I’d be happy to guide you to it.

Have joined you where? I’m interested in similar sites, could never fully get into Spinster though.

Josh mentioned a huge influx of women a couple of years ago.

Pretty sure that happened when The Reddit Purge happened, r/GC was killed, and the reddit mods became more militant about banning females for wrongthink. GC women had nowhere to go and speak freely before Ovarit sprung up

I think PULL shutting down as well as the mods at r/blogsnark going draconian had an impact too

Josh has claimed that he had contingencies in place and people willing to step in if he suddenly couldn't run the site anymore. I hope that's true just in case this fight has taken a toll on him personally and he needs to step away (especially in light of whatever family emergency he has going on)

Keffals' minions went after his mother, so I imagine it might have something to do with that. These people are terrorists, and they don't care about hurting innocent people for as long as those people are in some way connected to their "enemies." Like for instance, sometimes I honestly worry about JKR's kids.

And they justified going after his mom because she (allegedly) had a KF account. So they're not just going after the people in charge of these sites. They're perfectly fine with ruining your life if you even had an account there (even if you never posted anything bad)

They will totally do this to ovarit and any other forum that let's women speak freely about genderwoo. Now that KF is down for the foreseeable future, they need a new boogeyman (or boogeywoman) to screech about

I'm hoping this is just a blip to make the terrorists think he's gone and lay off KF a bit. But I do know that Josh finds this very tiring and all-consuming and within the last year or two he was considering quitting.

But I do know that Josh finds this very tiring and all-consuming and within the last year or two he was considering quitting.

I can't say I blame him. Especially after the threats towards his mother and the rapid increase of mainstream media attention towards him and the site. I hope those contingencies are still there. But it wouldn't surprise me if part of his stress is that nobody else is willing to take over for him

I hate this. Not because I like KF (as I've made clear on this site before, I think it was trash) but because it shows what the trans mob can do to dismantle speech it doesn't like. Scary world we live in.

The mob already said that if they're successful with KF they're going after Mumsnet and Ovarit next. It's not about "threats to life". It's about control of the narrative. They're going to feel emboldened now. And they don't even care what they've just done to dissidents in regimes like Russia and China. They literally broke the Internet for their own selfish purposes. September 5, 2022, a date that will live in infamy.

They're going after Mumsnet?

WTF?

And why am I always surprised AGAIN at how much they hate women? Should be used to it by now.

They hate women. That's what this entire movement is and has always been about. They HATE women.

They literally broke the Internet

Exactly what they did. I hope at some point it dawns on them.

It won't dawn on them because all this shit happened in their favor. They won't care until they lose something they care about (like their reddit porn)

As far as they are concerned, they improved the internet . . . . . .

[–] MissBehaved 30 points Edited

Remember remember the 5th of September,

the transvestites, the paedos, the lot.

I know of no reason that internet freedom

should ever be forgot.

Over a dozen Ovarit users have followed me to highly encrypted decentralized platforms that don’t surveil or collect data. I’d be happy to show you how to get there.

Over a dozen Ovarit users have followed me to highly encrypted decentralized platforms that don’t surveil or collect data. I’d be happy to show you how to get there.

What platforms are you talking about?

I like KF. There's a lot of assholes there, but also a lot of information you can't find anywhere else. And hey, at least they hate paedos and ban revenge porn. It's more than you can say for Twitter.

I love the archivist aspect of it. They weren't "harassing" anyone, they simply archived the insane behavior of these nuts that was publicly available. There were more leftist/TERF types in the parts I frequented than racists/right wingers. They tended to get voted "lunatic" or "Islamic" or whatever when they'd go on their rants about feminists & I loved that lol.

Regardless, it was far less disgusting than something like 4Chan that's almost all teen and 20-something males with the mentality of a 12-year-old. There was actual intelligent discussion & wit on KF & you could ignore the repulsive stuff because it wasn't the majority.

Their archive of phalloplasties and neovaginas disasters is peaking material

I don't know if it's true, but I've heard KF actually doxxes some people, posting their addresses and such. I can't defend this kind of behavior.

They did. And I'm sick of people from there defending it as "but doxing isn't illegal!!" or "it was all public information anyway!"

You know what you're doing when you put someone's info out there like that. You're either trying to intimidate the person (which in some jurisdictions does constitute harassment, as you're affecting the security and privacy of that person) or you're inviting another person to use the info to harass/harm the person. There's a reason you can get charged with a crime for providing a gun to someone who later uses that gun in the commission of a crime. Same kind of thing.

I hate that this has happened. But Josh 100% should have been doing more to curb doxing on the site because there was nothing else on KF that could have been used to sink his site.

Yes, that is true. I don't approve of that either. But... Still a goldmine of info. It is what it is.

Nah I'm not down for any site that uses racial slurs freely, among many other things.

It's their extreme defense of free speech that has allowed it to be a proper haven for honest information about TIMs. That's precisely why them being taken down is so disastrous.

So true. Even if one agrees that KF deserved to go down (which i can understand), the fact that it went down over some child grooming, drug dealing TIM throwing a tantrum and not over the YEARS of posts about women, children, the handicapped, etc is worrying. Especially since these TIMs are happy to kill milder sites like Ovarit for the "crime" of not agreeing with them

[–] wildclovr 62 points Edited

I think KiwiFarms will be back. All Null is saying is that he's got some in-real-life issues happening now and isn't able to fight this fight just right now. But for how determined and committed he is, I think he'll return. And it could be that KiwiFarms comes back jumping "between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer", but if that's how it has to be, I think it'll still be back, in that sort of a way.

Edit to add - I'm still able to get to KiwiFarms via Tor.

Yeah, I think so too. Josh is one determined weird dude.

Keffals is still, and will always be A VERY PATHETIC, DISGUSTING LITTLE DUDE WITH FAUX FARTS. Stay mad, Lucas.

And what the hell is up with the FBI fear mongering in this thread? Come on now. No need to feed into Lucas' fantasies.

I think it has to do with some ex-fed having caught wind of KF moving its resources to Russia, and then tweeting that it was some kind of Putin op or something. I believe that's why it might have gone down is because it got swept up in the cyber-sanctions regarding Ukraine.

Edit to add - I'm still able to get to KiwiFarms via Tor.

Are you able to point me toward a reputable primer on TOR? I am ignorant and wish to be less so.

Kind of the extent of my own knowledge of Tor is that I downloaded a Tor browser, and I know that everything moves slower there, but is a bit more private. You do not need a lot of technical skills to be able to use Tor.

Here's an article about it from around 10 years ago. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/05/tor-beginners-guide-nsa-browser

I hope that helps!

Starting to think online literacy, to include how not to be traced online or via your devices in reality, is a safety skill set.

I think Null might be arrested by the fbi.

Why? He's been subpoena'd before and always worked with authorities. There is a reason why Keffals and co have bypassed legal ways: Kiwifarms does nothing illegal.

Even doxxing people, while disgusting, is a) not illegal and b) based on information that is publicly available if you know where to dig. I’m not remotely defending it but it’s not a legal issue in itself.

I saw you said you are from China, so I can understand why you might think that's a possibility. However, the US constitution affords us "freedom of speech", meaning the government can't prosecute people for saying things TIMs don't like.

Nice the faith you all have in your constitution in the face of what goes on. If they want to shut you down, they find a way around the first amendment.

Hope not. I've watched a few forum leaders get taken down, but that was research chemical forums and they were moving drugs/talking openly about it. As long as Null has his hands clean he should be good. But the FBI's tactics are dirty, they can hide their discovery tactics at trial so defendants can't form a proper defense. (See: Silk Road leader Ross Ulbricht's trial).

Ross Ulbricht's trial was an absolute farce and affront to democracy and human rights. If it happened in a non-WEstern country it would be considered tyrannical. Imagine serving a double life without parole sentence for running a website that sells - among many innocuous things - a few drugs. You get less for actual murder.

Josh could easily be (falsely) convicted of conspiracy to commit terrorism, murder etc. It doesn't matter that it's not true, a lot of the shit about silkroad wasn't true either.

The U.S. has become China-like in its internet censorship & is on its way to becoming North Korea if we're not careful. The quality of Google searches in recent years is one example. Between DMCA takedowns, Youtube censorship, Reddit banning all those subs for NO legit reason & all the rest, it's no longer the information superhighway but a big fucking corporate strip mall just like the rest of this shithole country.

I saved many of the most incriminating Keffals posts from Page 1 of the Kiwi thread late last night to a private Pinterest board before it went down for good. Just in case any sympathetic articles about the beast pop up in my social media threads. Kiwi didn't advocate stalking or swatting--in fact the rules said "We're NOT an autistic illuminati & aren't gonna act as your personal army to troll ppl IRL". They simply archived the behavior these demented animals posted THEMSELVES. The fact that an internet archive is deemed worthy of censoring bodes very, very badly for freedom of speech & historians of the internet in general. Every article I've seen on this issue is outright lying about both KiwiFarms & this Keffals sociopath to such an outrageous degree it makes me wonder if any news article I've read in the last 15 years contains any truth whatsoever.

Whoever owns this site better learn about hosting, archiving, mirroring and all the rest. They'll be coming for it soon. The goal is total annihilation of free speech and it's not hard to see why when they incriminate themselves so badly every other minute with their perverse & violent posts.

Josh pretty much nailed it in his initial Telegram post when the site first went down.

It's about fat eunuchs in drag -- very, very powerful fat eunuchs in drag -- having unfettered access to groom kids for their own personal desires, and nobody being allowed to talk about it.

That, I think, is why I'm close to tears this morning. Not simply because a shitposting site got banhammered. But about why and who's behind it and what's coming next. I wouldn't care about any of this if kids weren't the target.

I saw a Christina Buttons tweet also about workshops for children all about "pleasure.* Colin Wright tweeted about another workshop at Kaiser Permanente in California, it was, again, for children, all about suppressing kids' natural instinct to be afraid. The new president of the American Academy of Pedophiles is an enthusiastic booster of the aptly-named Scott Weiner's new law to siphon kids from all of the country into the gaping maw of the California child grooming -- excuse me, "social services" -- machine.

This is about kids dammit. This is about a multi-gazillion-dollar power structure that wants kids to play with in the worst, most unfathomable of ways. They want them on puberty blockers so that they never grow up. And they're getting away with it because everyone who speaks out has been deemed a MAGA bigot and unpersoned. Because we care about kids. Biden's speech the other night was chilling. He pretty much lumped all of us into an even more draconian "basket of deplorables." Herr Schniffer, who showers with his daughter, whose corrupt son is his "advisor" and whose computer hard drive nobody is allowed to talk about. Pritzker, that wildebeest in his mother's housecoat. There's big money in this and it's all about having a steady supply of kids.

I feel so sick the more I think about it.

I still can't believe that this is what took KF down and not them refusing to take down the mosque murder video. A disgruntled catboy has more say than a COUNTRY.

Ugh. You're so right. :(

Kids are a lifelong customer for so many industries: big pharma, junk food advertisers, tech companies & more. It wasn't until 1997 that tobacco ads directed at children were removed from the market, and that was not an official government ban but a voluntary removal after a lawsuit. This is a big business above all else because everything in capitalist America is a business. The fact that pedos, misogynists, homophobes & every other flavor of fr3ak can hide under the trans umbrella is a bonus to the "movement". They're opportunists doing what NAMBLA did to the gay rights movement in the '70s.

Countless kids will be maimed & driven to suicide by this human experiment (and already have been!), and the whole thing is being memoryholed by our media & government. It's this last bit that's truly horrifying. Covering up the evidence of their crimes by online censorship means much worse things are to come, and this is pretty damn awful.

I feel like walking in front of an oncoming train every time I think about this. Like that scene in The Fifth Element where Leeloo types in W-A-R on the computer, and all the clips flash by her and she's instantly appraised of the full extent of man's inhumanity to man. Or more appropriately, man's inhumanity to woman and child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9cw4pyKMSU

Are you referring to the Ashley Biden diary? I haven’t been able to find any coverage of its content, it’s been memory holed apparently.

It started with Gallus Mag and it's not stopping.

Only real life can be free now. The internet has gone from a place where you could easily find every sort of opinion about everything, to a place where you had to scroll to page five on the search engine to get past the commercial sites, to a place where the narrative is just as much under control as it always was in the paper press.

But we still have far better tools than the geniuses had who created the samizdat in the Soviet Union.

Sites that have let people share CHILD PORN over and over and over again don't get taken down. White supremacist sites where terrorist attacks have been planned don't get taken down. But a site that makes fun of fetishistic men and pedophiles and breaks no laws can't be allowed to stand! How much more obvious can it be that fetishistic men and pedophiles are the ones who hold all the power, and protecting their own ilk is far more important to them than any of the other issues they pretend to care about?

Really telling how they never go after any incel sites, esp ones that have been responsible for carrying out attacks against women in the past..hmm I mean, if they actually are real women just as they claim to be, you would think they would feel just as threatened by them as they are by imaginary 'transphobes' coming after them, but they're not..must be the kinship

Please, everyone: create gender critical networks and talk to people IRL. This website is next. The internet is not a place for free expression or open communication. It never was. It is 100% a tool of control and surveillance that was imposed on society from the top. Always has been.

I tried joining a GC group IRL that advocates for single sex jails but they wouldn’t have me because I have a criminal record.

Weird, I thought former inmates like Heather Mason were the loudest voices for single sex prisons. I don't see the need for such kind of gatekeeping from people who were never affected by the issue.

I don’t care about your record. Come join my group. See my above comments to others about this

I can’t figure out how to start a DM but I’m interested in learning more.

That makes no sense. That group should actually be ashamed. Who the hell would know better about how women are treated in the system than someone who has actually been in it?

That's horrible. You should have the strongest voice in that discussion.

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Unfortunately, real life might not even be safe anymore. Universities, corporations... you could lose your job for being gender-critical these days.

Unless people start speaking out, things are not going to get better. Our foremothers risked everything to get us person status and the vote. Honestly women need to be brave about this.

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Indeed, the whole point of internet was anonymity. If you try to join such groups in real life, unless you have a very good vetting process, a single viral video showcasing your "transphobia" can ruin your career.

Liberty University, Brigham Young University still exists yet, and while perhaps not considered authentic feminist, certainly not even the slightest hint of one strand of pink dyed hair can be found.

I don't remember, do you have kids preparing for college? Please consider possibly sending them to that school?

NO. What on earth are you thinking? Pay thousands of dollars a year to be brainwashed into thinking your only importance is to be a wife and crank out you husband's kids? It's not that they're "not considered authentic feminist." They are actively regressive. And Liberty University? I'm going to piss that much money away on a place like that?

And odd username, btw. You seem to be a case-in-point why we shouldn't have open registration. We get enough conservatives worming their way over here.

This is a radical feminist site.

I will heavily second this idea. I'm a member of various women's circles in real life (with a wide variety of ages -- the idea that young people all buy into the modern regressive gender movement is just so hilariously wrong) and it's the best connection you will ever have.

A step up from there of course is print media, local zines, that sort of thing. Key thing is they're not centralized, so there's not a single point of failure.

I’ve already created one and there is a growing collective of several dozen mostly Ovarit members there discussing all this now. I’d be happy to tell you how to get in. Please feel free to check all my comment and posting history to confirm I’m a credible Ovarit member, then DM me for the next steps.

Who wants to bet where the death threats sent to Cloudflare came from?

Keffals 100%. He had the screenshot instantly, despite it having been reported over 30 times and removed in less than 10 minutes.

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