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That particular "interest" group on quora is filled with the most vile racist posts. After seeing that, I looked for a group where there are topics such as are discussed here and can't find any.

Example : "Once you go Black, you're a single mom". Which got many commenters doubling down in support. That post was up for several days and now seems to be gone.

https://itsoktobewhite.quora.com/?ch=10&oid=1890261&share=396067ef&srid=opbq&target_type=tribe

That particular "interest" group on quora is filled with the most vile racist posts. After seeing that, I looked for a group where there are topics such as are discussed here and can't find any. Example : "Once you go Black, you're a single mom". Which got many commenters doubling down in support. That post was up for several days and now seems to be gone. https://itsoktobewhite.quora.com/?ch=10&oid=1890261&share=396067ef&srid=opbq&target_type=tribe

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So I'm sure I'll be downvoted to oblivion and banned for asking, but, like, why isn't it OK to be white? Is there any other born human characteristic that's not OK to be? It's not OK to be... right-handed? It's not OK to be... female? It's not OK to have curly hair? WTF?

[–] m0RT_1 14 points Edited

It is not the phrase "Its OK to be white" and its literal meaning, in a sensible world that shouldn't be a big deal.

It is more about racist groups/people adopting it as one of their key slogans. I haven't followed that toxic rabbit hole and how it came to be. Think it came out of US politics But it seems it is one of those language landmines that political oppositions leave for each other to step on.

The trolls who popularized that phrase succeeded in their goal of embarrassing the progressive left. There's no reason to have any negative reaction to the phrase, just like there shouldn't be one for "it's OK to have brown hair" or "it's OK to be right-handed". If you object, all it does is make it look like you think those things are not OK.

Same thing with the Straight Pride Parade a few years ago. I don't know why anyone cared about that. If no one paid attention to it, it would have been just a couple of guys walking down the street. Instead, they got to create videos of huge crowds of protestors mocking the idea of a parade to celebrate a sexual orientation, and objecting to heterosexuality getting equal treatment to homosexuality.

They want to spread the narrative of "if you're white and straight, the left is against you" and the protestors are playing right into their hands.

It’s almost like straight people oppressed gay people and white people oppressed black people in America.

Example : "Once you go Black, you're a single mom". Which got many commenters doubling down in support. That post was up for several days and now seems to be gone. It was a pictorial meme.

It’s like white lives matter/all lives matter. Of course white peoples lives matter, everyone’s does. It wasn’t born out of a desire to remind white people or everyone that they matter though, it was born in an anger response to Black Lives Matter.

[–] SlowCollapse 7 points Edited

It shouldn't be seen as racist to oppose BLM, just as it shouldn't be seen as transphobic to oppose, say, Mermaids.

BLM was directly or indirectly responsible for a lot of bad stuff, from normalising reverse racism, to widespread rioting, arson, and looting while claiming 'mostly peaceful protests' (mass gatherings in the middle of a pandemic, too, after lashing out at others who held gatherings), to using BLM funds to buy mansions, the insane 'defund the police' message (while being responsible for a crimewave), and of elevating a violent drug-addled career criminal to near-sainthood (of course he didn't deserve to be murdered by a cop, but he was about as far from a saint as you can get)

The movement has also distorted language in a similar way to the trans lobby, with racism redefined to specifically mean 'racism against black people', and 'anti-racism' redefined to more or less mean 'anti-whiteness'.

[–] Peppermint 1 points Edited

BLM was directly or indirectly responsible for a lot of bad stuff, from normalising reverse racism, to widespread rioting, arson, and looting while claiming 'mostly peaceful protest

That's bullshit and EXACTLY what racists want you to believe thats unless you are racist. So easy to apply that to what TRAs do when they accuse everyone else of literal "violence"every time anyone says anything they don't agree with. If you can't see parallels in that there's nothing else I can tell you. And there's nothing to say to racists in general.

If/when widespread protests over this trans bullshit happens you better believe in a few things are guaranteed to happen:

  • Some looting will happen, whoever did it doesn't matter its always going to be the fault of people peacefully protesting. And yes anyone can be responsible especially and including false flag operations. It happens every time black people protest to the point that it is expected. And no amount of preparation for it helps much. So do not put it past TRAs to assemble among you/us to gather information and try to make people look bad. They do this already. We saw that with Keffalls and his army of assholes. We saw it with the Boston hospital threats. Either way, the media is gong to play loops and loops of the "bad people" looting 24/7. Look what they did!!! Look what they did to our precious churches and playgrounds!) This looting will be the major talking points about the protest. Everything else will get squashed. People will argue in opinion columns of it and use it as ammunition against what is being protested about altogether. ((Some stores burned down in a neighborhood I dont give a shit about??? That means police were valid in shooting that man 50 times.))
  • Tons of people will be protesting peacefully. Because they aren't there to riot, they want to make a point and find a solution. They are upset about something? What is it? We won't know really. They will hardly be seen on tV or or described in the news.
  • If it doesn't serve the powers that be, all the media they control will only focus on what little looting is happening to make the actual protest unimportant by comparison. Because of course! A store on fire is way more important than a policeman holding a human being's neck under his knee for 15 minutes . So when you tell a reporter one thing, she/he will tell the general public something else entirely. This is to diminish/diffuse and dismiss the protester message.
  • Going against TRAs IS against the powers that be if you couldn't tell so you should damned well believe our protest will be described as violent, hateful, corrupt, in-appropriate. In fact that is going on already. And these are ALL THE WORDS you described to label a protest about police killings and brutality. "Defund the police" or whatever the fuck wasn't about getting rid of the police but it was about removing some of the enormous unmitigated power police have to suppress and execute people with no consequence whatsoever. And believe me the police will be used against us in the US also. Just like they are in the UK. The TRAS trained the police in the UK to do this. Thats why he hear stories of them knocking on women's doors because they are being "untoward to PEDOPHILES." Still amazing when you think of it but yea.. thats what will happen here. Thats what is happening in Canada too.

Thats exactly what happened with Occupy Wall Street and BLM and the future 5th? wave Women's and children's rights protests. A man left 1000 bottles of his urine to protest women's rights, and the media glamorized it almost made it look like a Vogue fashion photo shoot. Imagine what they can and will do when we protest? What message do you think will spread when that happens? Not ours...No it will be someone on a forum talking about how all the TERFs were violent, corrupt, stole monies, were hateful to everybody, and looted buildings and hospitals. So you either see that for what is or you protests deserved to be ignored like everyone else's.

P. S. The real reason we are called TERFs is to dehumanize us. Calling us women or feminists makes it harder to attack us in public. Once you dehumanize something its easier to maim, kill, put down and make second class. Thats why the message "KILL TERFs" is totally acceptable social media message right now.

I mean, it isn't currently ok to be female. That's why all the erasure/abandonment of the term.

Example : "Once you go Black, you're a single mom". Which got many commenters doubling down in support. That post was up for several days (!!) and now is gone.

Well, of course it's fine to have that topic, and I was curious what they talked about, so I visited the space, and was very disappointed to see horrible racist memes displayed there.

Try posting it’s ok to be afab? I wonder what would happen

[–] otterstrom 8 points Edited

what is its okay to be white? I mean, if I just got off of that sentence alone it's a huge duh- you're born as you're born, so I'm assuming there's a background to it and I'm not sure if I wanna be flooded by a bunch of racist content.

Example of racist meme I mentioned : "Once you go Black, you're a single mom". Which got many commenters doubling down in support. That post was up for several days and now seems to be gone.

Probably because Racist TIMs/TIFs see no problem with this kind of discourse, but the minute THEY are scrutinized in as begin as critical thinking to full on GC, they get upset and hypocritical and block these discussions.

[–] DonnaFemina 1 points Edited

I've seen a number of trans discussions there, some of them pretty heated. For instance:

https://www.quora.com/As-a-trans-woman-what-is-your-definition-of-woman

https://www.quora.com/Do-you-consider-gender-dysphoria-a-mental-disorder

https://www.quora.com/Do-trans-men-and-trans-women-consider-themselves-as-male-and-female

https://www.quora.com/In-your-opinion-why-should-trans-women-be-treated-as-women/

Can you see those?

I don't know how Quora is organized, but it looks from those links like those are just questions someone posted on Quora itself as opposed to within some Quora group or space or whatever the different parts of Quora are called. I assume there must be trans groups there and in those groups, dissenting voices would no doubt be blocked/deleted. But maybe on Quora itself, outside the context of a certain group, they don't get blocked?