96

Polish Politician, Urszula Kuczyńska, was removed from a party "Razem" that is a left wing party in Poland. Last few months have been a witchhunt against her and all women who share radfem views.

Urszula's twitter: https://twitter.com/UrszulaKuczynsk/status/1390262371109769218?s=20

Urszula's facebook statement (in Polish, but can use FB translate): https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=243021604185950&id=100054343366999&sfnsn=mo

Info about it can be also found on this account: https://twitter.com/hankakulikowska/status/1390235539660591106?s=20

Urszula started to gather funds for legal and psychological support for women who are cancel victims and for creation of an organisation standing up for women's rights. You can read about it more in detail and donate here: https://zrzutka.pl/en/ecvcs2

If you have any questions about the situation please let me know.

Polish Politician, Urszula Kuczyńska, was removed from a party "Razem" that is a left wing party in Poland. Last few months have been a witchhunt against her and all women who share radfem views. Urszula's twitter: https://twitter.com/UrszulaKuczynsk/status/1390262371109769218?s=20 Urszula's facebook statement (in Polish, but can use FB translate): https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=243021604185950&id=100054343366999&sfnsn=mo Info about it can be also found on this account: https://twitter.com/hankakulikowska/status/1390235539660591106?s=20 Urszula started to gather funds for legal and psychological support for women who are cancel victims and for creation of an organisation standing up for women's rights. You can read about it more in detail and donate here: https://zrzutka.pl/en/ecvcs2 If you have any questions about the situation please let me know.

29 comments

[–] slendernan 37 points (+37|-0)

I left her a positive comment in all that bullshit people spew at her. I'll donate to the fundraiser too.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 31 points (+31|-0)

Thank you, that means a lot for all of us in Poland.

She is definitely one of the major faces of our radfem movement here.

The support in both words of encouragement and donations are highly appreciated.

[–] slendernan 16 points (+16|-0)

Oh, I'm Polish too! HAHA I wasn't happy to see what happened to her, but happy to see that gender critial thinking isn't completely nonexistent here. So she and Kulikowska have my sword in this battle!

It seems like she did see it, since she liked my comment so. :)

[–] eyeswideopen 33 points (+33|-0)

Poland feels like a terrifying glimpse into the future for me, an idealization of where conservatives would like to take the U.S. I have so much respect for all the women and allies fighting against this repression, I cannot really put it into words.

[–] EmilyJ 16 points (+16|-0)

How much power does the left wield in Poland atm ? I think if they tilt towards liberal feminism it will only give more power to the already strong right wing n Poland

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 19 points (+19|-0)

There is no real left wing in the Polish political scene in my opinion. Only the libfeminist and genderist left, which doesn't really care about women as we can see for months in the discourse surrounding gender and prostitution.

Being said, the left is not very strong in the political system, but it gained traction because they got some support riding the woman's strike sytuation, as women were very harmed by the right wing party with the taking away of abortion rights.

There is quite a lot of gen z internet support for them, similar to what you see with anti women queer movements in western countries.

They don't understand that pretending that they don\t know what woman is, or saying that men give birth and so on and so forth, is harming true left movement in Poland and only helps the far right wing conservatives.

[–] hermiona52 16 points (+16|-0) Edited

I think it's more complicated than that. Razem is a left-wing party in my opinion as it consolidates liberal ideas like feminism, secular state, same-sex marriage support, with socialist economic ideas.

The problem lies with social media. Very young, very vocal supporters have a huge influence through social media. This is why people like Kuczyńska can get cancelled. But I really believe that self-ID would be supported by a very small fraction of The Left voters.

This is similar to the current PO situation, where journalist and vocal twitter and facebook fanbase made their politicians believe they should vote against KPO. But when the actual polls were revealed, only like 10% of all Poles wanted them to vote against it.

Social media are really ruining our reality, because they warp perspective of politicians and powerful journalists. They are no longer connected to what people actually believe and want. They think they know from twitter and facebook, but only specific demographics are active there.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 12 points (+12|-0)

You are right that the social media pressure is definitely heavily affecting the conversation on these topics in Poland.

The Razem party fell for that pressure tho quite strongly and they took the anti women stand by what happened with Urszula Kuczyńska.

Being from Polands I'm sure you have seen all the virtue signalling posts from Razem politicians regarding the TQplus and prostitution movements in here and all that while when Urszula was being eaten alive by all them misogynist internet genderists.

[–] EmilyJ 16 points (+16|-0)

Ahh So Poland lefts is also like that , I am baffled how young Poland women try to enforce cancel culture when they have literally other things to worry about .

Guess I suppose like rest of the countries Polish youth too consume in too much US media (which are dominated by woke Leftism) in form of Tiktok Reels or Facebook .

This creates a distorted reality in which those young women feel like they should start raising slogans like TWAW like what happens in US when in reality they should focus on the basic core problems which women face in Poland .

[–] Luckystar 2 points (+2|-0)

So it's like the USA, basically? Except maybe the right wing is even stronger there than here?

[–] BlackCirce 8 points (+8|-0)

I donated. Polish women are inspiring as fuck. You don’t get the press you deserve in the anglophonie. I think they don’t want us to learn from Polish feminists.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Thank you. Glad to hear that you find an inspiration in the movement we have here in Poland.

It's extremely exhausting, but we try to do the best we can.

[–] PaperDelusions 7 points (+7|-0)

Thanks for letting us know. I'm lucky I know polish and I'm sorry for anyone using a web translator

[–] Nona_Biba 4 points (+4|-0)

Poland? The country where an abortion is nearly impossible to get? More proof that trans rights is a men's rights movement. How is it gaining so much steam in such a conservative country?

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Yup, that's the same country. One of the factors that broke the Women's Strike was all the TQ+ that month or two months in the whole madness started a campaign saying that usage of word "woman" is bad.

[–] BathMat 3 points (+3|-0)

Thanks for sharing. I'm pretty broke, but I've started donating the minimum amount to every fundraiser posted here. Would really encourage anyone else in the same position to do the same and not feel like it's not worth donating if you can't do a bigger lump. It feels good to be showing solidarity and small amounts do add up.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

Thank you for your support. Yes, every voice of support counts and even donating small sums of money, like 10 cents or so, all counts. Because as you say, it shows solidarity and small amounts do add up.

[–] IronicWolf 3 points (+3|-0)

How did this movement start pretty much at the same time globally? It’s enough to turn anyone into a conspiracy theorist.

[–] hermiona52 6 points (+6|-0)

No need for conspiracy theories. Just notice the age of vocal TRAs in social media - it's mostly young people. LGB rights are like no brainer for young people thanks to social media and globalization, Netflix, HBO, popular movies and such. Even in Poland, though we don't have even a right for civil partnership, if only young people could vote, we would already have a right to marry.

TQ is just piggybacking on the LGB people, and young people want to be on the right side of the history. Most of them don't question it, because they don't want to be seen as bigots.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

The big money behind it definitely fuelled the popularity of the movement. Tbh with all the marketing tactics and money a lot of things is possible.

[–] mil-bil 2 points (+2|-0)

This thread brought me a lot of comfort yesterday. I felt like I was losing my mind. This is a purge that makes me think that Razem is LARPing stalinism. They are a left-wing party supposedly, but they're cutting out any class consciousness whatsoever. If this is socialism, then it's drowned in champagne.

Growing up in Poland meant seeing prostitution daily -- and it certainly didn't look anything like Pretty Woman. Urszula has been one of the clearest voices about the realities of prostitution for poor women and for the brutal exploitation on which the sex industry is based. The supposed advocacy for "sex workers rights" we see so abundant these days denies this reality and pushes a fairy-tale vision completely unglued from any understanding of the conditions on the ground.

I admire Urszula's clarity and ability to cut through the BS. I remember a social media post of hers from months ago in which she pointed out that replacing the word "woman" with inventions such as "uterus-havers" pathologizes those among women who have, for instance, had hysterectomies and nonetheless need what we know to be healthcare focused on women's specific health needs. She's been in the fight with cogent and specific arguments.

The way Razem has ousted her has completely smeared her name. I see the party releasing social media posts about fossil-fuel energy alternatives and wonder whether I'm looking at her work being actively appropriated by others. They've sabotaged her career.

Thank you for sharing all the information about what happened yesterday, and how we can support her. I will be eagerly waiting for updates. And thank you, everybody, for the comments here. They mean so much. Otherwise, I don't know how I'd push away the sense of absolute despair.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

I truly understand how you feel, with being so overwhelmed with the situation in Poland. I'm feeling exactly the same, but knowing that there are more and more women here who actively work towards standing up to the madness that happens does help me too.

Razem crushingly disappointed me with how little we as women mean to them. And it's a good comparison that you made about champagne drowned socialism.

I remember the women by the road every day I drove to school as well as a kid. I think it was, unfortunately, a pretty common landscape for all of us growing up here.

It's deeply exhausting to have to fight with the misogyny of the side that was supposed to have our, women's, interests at heart. But it is what it is and it has to be done.

[–] Banshee 2 points (+2|-0)

This makes me really sad to read, even though I emigrated from Poland almost 10 years ago and haven't looked back. On one hand, I find it a bit surprising that liberal feminism with its extreme ideas would have any traction in such a conservative country. But then, on the other hand, it makes some sense. Poland tends to idealise USA and some trends from over there are often followed blindly.

[–] Sugarfree [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Yes, the idealisation of everything in the US and the narratives there is still present here to this day. Most of the discourse on the TQ+ topic is basically a copy paste from there.

[–] Flower_tsuji 1 points (+1|-0)

If you contact the radfem news website 4W.pub or feminist current.com maybe they will write about ? or post something you want to write about ? Good luck to the sister's in Poland !