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[–] XX_Power 2 points (+2|-0)

I'm sorry she got so much hate for the makeup post. I'm still wearing makeup at work so i won't call myself radfem although i agree with most stances of radical feminism. However i also think we should not laser focus on purity tests on who can be a feminist because the last thing we need is infighting when our enemies have so much power and a united front.

[–] Lolo [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Me too. I found it funny because she was harping on something she was doing like 6 months ago.

I believe people can be crypto radfems. Let's say you have an ethical source for eyeliner and a woman profits from its purchase. And you have a high-powered job in a male dominated field. Wearing makeup will help you and not wearing it will hurt you. If you can help "the cause" in numerous other ways by getting promotions and power, it doesn't make sense to die on the makeup hill.

I also don't get pointing fingers at wearing makeup. If it's "not really a choice" how can we condemn the women who comply?

That's just my opinion.

[–] XX_Power 1 points (+1|-0)

Yes i agree. I actually work in STEM as a researcher and it's VERY male dominated. I donate to my country's Feminist organization (one that's not trans captured). I think I'm doing fine. I kind of like the FDS approach which is very result focused: they say make-up is a low risk high reward behavior in this current society while for example sending nudes is a high risk low reward behavior and heavily discouraged.

[–] lucretiamott 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

Lisa here. I wasn't condemning any women, I literally never did that. I'm saying as an act, wearing makeup is not a radical feminist act, because it doesn't contribute to the liberation of women from oppression - instead it reinforces the "need" for makeup and also contributes financially to an industry that thrives off of women's degradation and low self esteem. Benefitting from it personally - in your example, wearing it at your job - does not make it a radical feminist act. That just means you wear it and benefit from it personally. That's all.

YES, I used to wear makeup and I don't any longer because I've reached the next stage in my personal evolution as a feminist. I used to be a full blown libfem (confessions here), now I'm not, but because I once was am I not supposed to critique libfems? I find a lot of things "problematic" that I used to be okay with. I believe we are allowed to evolve and change our thinking - I wouldn't be here "harping" (misogynistic term btw) on this stuff if I didn't think women couldn't change their minds (and benefit from doing so).

I don't believe in purity tests and I literally never attacked any woman here or anywhere else or said they should be kicked out of the club or something. I for sure would NOT pass a purity test, but I do believe in standards within the framework of radical feminism - that's what makes it radical feminism. It's watering it down and saying any choice a woman makes is a feminist choice that got us liberal feminism. That's a main thrust of my argument in the video.

I REALLY DO genuinely appreciate you sharing my video but please don't put words in my mouth. Thanks

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