[–] hmimperialtortie 36 points (+36|-0)


So these geniuses have never heard of socialisation? Never occurred to them that their daughter is subject to innumerable influences outside her parents’ control? Or that for all their supposed gender neutral treatment, they, too, are subject to society’s influence?

[–] Mafalda 32 points (+32|-0)

Why does gender neutral always mean nothing pink. Pink is the whole reason women are oppressed apparently. I’ve yet to see “my daughter wants to wear a blue polo shirt bit we are raising her gender neutral, help!”

[–] babayaga 17 points (+18|-1)

Growing up there were girls I went to school with who absolutely hated the color pink because they thought it was too "girly." This one girl who wore makeup, dresses, high heels, and jewelry on a regular basis went on a rant about how much she hated the color pink because it's for "girly-girls." At the time I was going through a butch/androgynous phase, and even I thought the hating on girly stuff was over-the-top.

[–] starsstorm 12 points (+12|-0)

Pink is apparently the source of all the world’s ills and women’s oppression can be fixed by banning the color pink. /s

[–] womenopausal witch babe 27 points (+27|-0) Edited

Can't see the article, but as a mum, my girls were both happy enough in whatever I put them in until they started school. Then they went through a period of gender hyperconformity. But after a few years of that, they got bored with it, and shaped their own individual styles and now have unique looks, which are, to a doting mother's eye at least, very cool.

Young kids have to learn gender, and at first they approach it in uncritical and concrete ways. As their thinking skills develop, they get more nuanced (in most cases).

[–] CrockMonster 8 points (+8|-0) Edited

This is my experience as a mother of girls too. My eldest definitely went through a pink and princess stage but it’s ‘levelled out’ now and she’s into all sorts of things and likes the colour turquoise.

I just let them enjoy what they enjoy at the time. Children go through so many phases, they grow and change so quickly. It was inevitable they we’re going to go through a pink phase at some point, because everywhere outside of my home sends the message that pink=girls (I try to instil that toys and colours are for everyone), like how most boys go through a toy car phase because society tells them cars are cool and boys are supposed to like that stuff.

Fighting them on it just causes more issues, kids don’t understand the world the way adults do. To them it’s just something they like and enjoy in that moment. As they grow the things they like and dislike will change overtime so these parents trying to raise their kids ‘gender neutral’ need to relax.

[–] BlackCirce 22 points (+23|-1)

I feel like people have gone insane. Just let the baby wear her pink dresses ffs

[–] FemmeGF 17 points (+17|-0)

I read the article and it seems that the patents (especially the father) think that “gender neutral” just means male, forcing her away from anything traditionally feminine to seem more respectable, the opposite of what they claim to be aiming for. The second sex indeed.

[–] womenopausal witch babe 9 points (+9|-0)

“gender neutral” just means male

The Male Default. So progressive. /s

[–] Fpccgc 13 points (+13|-0)
  1. Pink (and orange and green) is one of my top favorite colors and

  2. Dresses are awesome (at least as an adult) bc when you’re bloated they don’t cut into you the way jeans do.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 7 points (+7|-0)

Same, same. Not on the orange and green, but red is my favorite color, and what is pink but a light red It's a lovely color, regardless of sex, I can completely see why people like it. The appreciation I have for reds is visceral, instinctive, and my mother shares it, as does one of my very young nieces. I genuinely believe it's related to berry-picking, healthy looking blood, and nutrition. There's something that resonates in my brain when I spot the red of a ripe berry. It surely kept ancestors alive. Why not wear clothing that looks like it was died with that color? Makes sense to me.

My favourite trousers as a kid were vivid purply-pink corduroy flares. I had lots of colours, all bright (joy of being an early 70s pre-teen), dresses and skirts and trousers to wear according to the weather. Autumn colours or jewel colours, they’re all lovely. Why does “gender neutral” not only mean male, but the fugly rubbish men have been wearing for decades?

[–] MelMarieCurebee 4 points (+4|-0)

Yeah! I love colors! I love how other cultures exist where this isn't the case. Indian men, for example, love wearing bright, ostentatious colors and patterns just like women. There's no actual reason for drab colors to be gender neutral or male.

[–] Fpccgc 4 points (+4|-0)

I love that sentiment. Red is healthy.

I am rereading Harry Potter and Fleur says that Ginny would look awful in pink because of her red hair. Total bullshit. Pink and red look amazing together in my eyes.

[–] shveya 4 points (+4|-0)

I love wearing skirts in the summer. It feels so cool and airy.

[–] shewolfoffrance 11 points (+11|-0)

Cuz kids' interests, personality, and beliefs are set in stone by age 5. 🙄

[–] [Deleted] 4 points (+4|-0)

Is it even the end of the world if she likes pink and painting her nails? I’m much less worried about a woman who dresses skirts and heels-only but knows her value, than a sweary chain-smoking khakis-wearing woman who thinks it’s okay for men to call themselves women, or that if her contraception fails she has to submit to unwanted pregnancy.

[–] shewolfoffrance 4 points (+4|-0)

As far as I'm concerned, girls liking pink dresses is a-ok. I just don't like people treating anything coded as feminine as automatically stupid.

[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

I can’t see why dressing up and doing one’s hair is any more stupid than, say, recreational hunting. People like being judgmental, and shallow, ironically enough.

[–] Stealthygal 11 points (+11|-0)

When I was a child I wore what I was told to wear get off my lawn etc.

My brother tried to raise his kids gender neutral. It didn't work. My nephew loves cars and my niece loves dolls. My bro is totally okay with it. He knows kids like what they like. He's not pushing any agenda on them. And shopping for the kids is quite easy. I still buy them gender neutral toys, but my niece LOVES dolls so so much, it feels mean to not get them for her.

[–] CrockMonster 9 points (+9|-0)

This is so backwards. I thought the concept of raising your kid gender neutral would mean allowing them more freedom to wear and play with what ever toys they like regardless of whether they’re marketed as ‘for boys/girls’, not restricting them because something is seen as ‘too girly’.

This kid is gonna have issues.

[–] [Deleted] 3 points (+3|-0)

She’s going to hate herself as “weak” for painting her nails. Well done, parents.

My eldest child had pink as their favourite colour up until they'd been at preschool for a while and then it was suddenly blue. Comments from other kids, I suspect. Then it was back to pink, then yellow, then gold, then any colour, rainbows! He doesn't really care. I let him have plenty of choice when it comes to clothes. He's never been interested in skirts, but has often had a hankering for sparkles and glitter. Why? Because it's eye catching! As a kid, why would you choose the dull coloured t-shirt when you can have the bright sparkly one? That's probably almost as big a factor as social pressure.

As he's got a bit older he's chosen much more "fitting in" things and generally seems unbothered. However if I let him he'd have bright red hair. Unfortunately school would be unhappy!

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