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"Our team was doing its best to try and sort of counter that ignorance and explain that this is a simple dress-up show," said Taylor. "It's not by any means lewd or anything but positive."

Why are there so many events recently with drag performers performing for children? I get that clowns are scary but many drag performances portray women in a sexual way. Maybe I just haven't seen many performances, but I've always viewed drag as offensive to women.

[–] RawSienna 28 points Edited

If it’s a “dress-up show”, why not do away with the drag guy and have a costume party that the kids can actually participate in?

Oh, because it’s not a neutral “dress-up show” at all, it’s equal parts grooming and indoctrination. There is utterly no reason to shove adult male sexuality at young kids. If some of the kids grow up to be gay men, they can enjoy/participate in drag shows then.

Edit: I should note that I personally hate drag and find it misogynistic, but it’s really none of my business what gay men do in their own spaces. This is not that. At all.

Edit2: I think we need to coin a new term for this attempted normalization of inappropriate adult crap being passed off as harmless kiddie fun. How about ‘dragwashing’ or ‘groomerwashing’

I think it’s very offensive to women, it’s just men laughing at us and playing up harmful and uninventive stereotypes. It’s horribly misogynistic.

Maybe controversial but I have yet to hear of an adequate argument for how it is different to minstrel shows (since both are horrible examples of those in power parodying those who are marginalised)

Idk why anyone would want to expose their kids to it.

[–] bellatrixbells BoobatrixRex 0 points

It's technically different from minstrel shows in the initial purpose. IIRC, the entire purpose of the minstrel shows was to build a perception of black people by white people who were much better as slaves because they were helpless idiots (obvious not my POV, but the depiction) and remind black people their place/keeping their self esteem low and maintaining intra racial racism.

Drag originates from a different place where women are actually not even considered. It's basically men sticking it to other men by appropriating the character they invented for women and denied themselves the right to use.

The effect is somewhat similar though. And obviously the basic principle is the same, as you already pointed out.

I agree that the whole concept of drag is offensive to women, BUT, I have definitely seen cleaned up performances i.e. non-sexual. For example, I saw one that was just a guy dressed up as a woman doing his crappy standup act. I still think him being dressed as a woman and doing a ''woman's voice' was offensive on its own but at least he was acknowledging that he was a dude and his standup sucked but it wasn't ALL teehee I'm a bimbo and zero overt sex jokes since this was a fairly public place. Also acts where they just dress up as famous women can go either way. Like I've seen them dress up as whoever they're lip synching to. And they do the famous person's mannerisms and not general 'this is what women do' mannerisms so that seems less directed at ALL women to me.

I agree, I used to see shows back in the day, where it was just like imitating Barbra Streisand. It really seemed more like tribute back then.

But now it seem like just a gross mockery of female stereotypes: catty, "bitchy," etc. and looks. Also it virtually excludes all female participation, so having it go into schools, etc. is really sexist in the "we only hire men" way.

I dunno if this counts as "drag". But Louie Anderson played a female character on the show "Baskets" and it worked surprisingly well. I think it was because he based the character on his own mother (whom he adored) and not some misogynistic stereotype

It's the cool, show your pride thing to do. These insatiable monsters won't stop until they swallow up everything in their wake.