Our movement doesn't include trans women because it's ๐Ÿ‘ not ๐Ÿ‘ a ๐Ÿ‘ men's ๐Ÿ‘ rights ๐Ÿ‘ movement ๐Ÿ‘

I wish they'd stop dragging black women and other minority women into this nonsense. Treating our race like some kind of gotcha or trump card when people refuse to accept men as women. As if it isn't blatant racism.

I'm black and my wife is non-black but not white. The amount of assumptions people make about us and our relationship based on our races is already enough. Being lumped with men is not another "gift" we desire.

And its telling that TRAs don't do it with any other minority. You don't see them screeching, "You let Japanese & Irish women in your bathroom! Why not trans-women!?"

Exactly! Like, wow, what did we do to earn this particular insult?

The thing that peaked me was Laverne Cocks...I mean Cox, asking black women to stop black men to stop killing transwomen. They will find anything to burden a black woman with.

[โ€“] spency Shayy 4 points

I heard about that. Black women can't even stop Black men from killing them, but sure, have them put all their energy into defending Black men wearing their oppression as a costume. I HATE Laverne Cocks.

Laverne Cocks also lobbied to get a male rapist/killer into a women's prison. This killer was a Latin Kings gang member who raped a 12 year old Black girl and then killed her by setting her on fire (and he was caught because he BRAGGED about his crime). And Laverne Cocks cried about how oppressed that monster was because he wasn't allowed in Lady Jail.

When he was called out on this, he just said, "whoops! Didn't know that dude was in for torturing Black girls! Teehee!"

For someone who claims to want to be a Black woman, Mr Cocks sure seems to have a LOT of hatred for them....

Letโ€™s get #NARALfailed trending on Twitter. They did not deliver the goods. They are no longer relevant


Its telling that NARAL was crying about TIMs (who aren't impacted by abortion policy) just a few days before the Roe bomb dropped. Their priorities are fucked!

Glad to know that, in light of Roe potentially being repealed, NARAL (an ABORTION RIGHTS GROUP!!) is prioritizing the feelings of penis people over the needs of uterus people.

They're not even pretending to care about TIFs who might need abortions. Its all about licking the sparkly pink boots of TIMs. This is fucking pathetic....

Exactly, if they think TIMs are women, then they think women who identify as men or non-binary are not women and should not be included in feminism. Thanks but I'd rather have my feminism include all women and 0 men.

...if they think TIMs are women, then they think women who identify as men or non-binary are not women and should not be included in feminism.

An excellent point and so very succinct. It just brings home the fact that NB's and TIFs should also not be included in anything to do with women's health. Instead men's health needs to include male pregnancy, etc.

Theyโ€™ll still include them, though. Women are now part of the alphabet soup. Hence the โ€œfeminism is for everyoneโ€ byline. Itโ€™s supposed to be taken literally.

What if I identify as a feminist anyway? Oh so NOW we give a shit about objective definitions ?

Personally I think there should be โ€˜feminism affirmingโ€™ treatments like handing out dungarees and sensible shoes to anybody who identifies as a feminist!

NARAL: "If ๐Ÿ‘ Brett Kavanagh ๐Ÿ‘ identifies as a ๐Ÿ‘ feminist, you ๐Ÿ‘ can't object to ๐Ÿ‘ it! Identifying ๐Ÿ‘ makes ๐Ÿ‘ it true!! ๐Ÿ‘ "

[โ€“] BigMeanie 43 points Edited

If your feminism doesn't exclude men who claim that cross dressing and cosmetic surgery makes them "women", it's not feminism.

Women are not spinny skirts and fake tits.

Uhโ€ฆ feminism that excludes TIMs is, er, my kink. No kinkshaming, remember?

Uh โ€ฆ feminism that excludes TIMs is, er, my kink. No kinkshaming, remember?

We should make this a thing.

"Throwing penis people out of locker rooms and toilets and lesbian gatherings makes me so hot! So you can't object to me doing it because kinks are a civil right now apparently!!" ๐Ÿ’‹

Oh, even better, remember that kinks donโ€™t say anything about who anybody is as a person, so weโ€™re good to go

All this is missing is "say it louder for the people in the back!" and we'd have a "things woke people say" bingo!


[โ€“] crodish ๐Ÿคก๐ŸŒ 11 points




it's so insane. They're specifically an abortion rights action league, not a feminism or women's group, so if we're going to make a break between the two for some bizarre newspeak reason, and trans rights need accentuating, they should obviously be focusing on how trans men or non-women need abortions. Why is it their duty to have anything to say about women, since um by your definition men need abortions too, what are you transphobic...

But they feel compelled to comment on women? curious. Almost like there's some mysterious connection between women and abortion rights.

They keep using the same tactic: if feminists donโ€™t include TIMs, they are hurting black women and girls. Thus implying that weโ€™re racists. Sort of like Stonewall saying lesbians who wonโ€™t have sex with TIMs are sexual racists, which makes no sense.

BLM, much like METOO, lasted about 5 minutes. These misogynist racists know they have a pass.

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