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Why are teenage girls given puberty blockers? Even for teenage boys the benefits are nebulous. But with teenage girls, what are they getting in exchange for sterility, brain damage and osteoporosis? No one seems to know. The ostensible benefits are that it helps them “pass” when they’re older. But of course it doesn’t. It makes them shorter, and height is the biggest giveaway with TIFs.

Girls want them anyway, because they don’t want to go through puberty. Girls damaging themselves because puberty is horrific is hardly a new thing. But adults helping them do it, on an industrial scale, is new.

If the goal really was to help them pass as adults, you’d give teenage TIFs human growth hormone, to make them taller than they would have been otherwise. But no one seems to have even considered that. Why?

The girls themselves might not want HGH, because it wouldn’t help them stave off puberty. But the adults in charge - who are supposed to be thinking of the long term future of these girls and are ostensibly doing all this to help them be passable transmen in future - why didn’t they think of this? They certainly aren’t averse to wild medical experimentation on children in the name of “passing” and HGH is at least safer than Lupron.

This made something click for me… what if the goal for the adults was always the same as the goal for the girls? It’s not making them look like men. It’s helping them avoid puberty. The girls will end up shorter and weaker and mentally less developed than they would have been otherwise and if they never take T they won’t look like adults.

The transmen who get puberty blockers and then go on to take T aren’t the endgame here. The goal is to have adult human females who look like female children.

So I would really like to know who started the practice of putting teenage girls through the “Dutch protocol.” Why didn’t they question if it would be valuable for girls? I’m sure a lot of clinicians doing it are just useful idiots, chasing $$$ or just following the herd. But who started the stampede?

Why are teenage girls given puberty blockers? Even for teenage boys the benefits are nebulous. But with teenage girls, what are they getting in exchange for sterility, brain damage and osteoporosis? No one seems to know. The ostensible benefits are that it helps them “pass” when they’re older. But of course it doesn’t. It makes them shorter, and height is the biggest giveaway with TIFs. Girls want them anyway, because they *don’t want to go through puberty.* Girls damaging themselves because puberty is horrific is hardly a new thing. But adults helping them do it, on an industrial scale, is new. If the goal really was to help them pass as adults, you’d give teenage TIFs human growth hormone, to make them taller than they would have been otherwise. But no one seems to have even considered that. Why? The girls themselves might not want HGH, because it wouldn’t help them stave off puberty. But the adults in charge - who are supposed to be thinking of the long term future of these girls and are ostensibly doing all this to help them be passable transmen in future - why didn’t they think of this? They certainly aren’t averse to wild medical experimentation on children in the name of “passing” and HGH is at least safer than Lupron. This made something click for me… *what if the goal for the adults was always the same as the goal for the girls?* It’s not making them look like men. *It’s helping them avoid puberty.* The girls will end up shorter and weaker and mentally less developed than they would have been otherwise and if they never take T they won’t look like adults. The transmen who get puberty blockers and then go on to take T aren’t the endgame here. The goal is to have adult human females who look like female children. So I would really like to know who started the practice of putting teenage girls through the “Dutch protocol.” Why didn’t they question if it would be valuable for girls? I’m sure a lot of clinicians doing it are just useful idiots, chasing $$$ or just following the herd. But who started the stampede?

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[–] Ducil 3 points Edited

Delaying puberty should make people taller by delaying the closure of bone growth plates. People and animals castrated before puberty get bigger than they would have otherwise. Is there something different about the way the drugs work? I thought that was a treatment for kids who were too short, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Exogenous growth hormone can cause cancer if you don't have a deficiency.

In any case, I think it should be malpractice to mess with a perfectly normal child's development.

Blockers help kids with premature puberty grow taller. Doesn’t do anything for TIFs who are given them at age 14.

Exogenous growth hormone can cause cancer if you don't have a deficiency.

I assume it’s clear I wasn’t advocating this as a good idea! I’m saying that the evidence and patient safety standards at youth gender clinics wouldn’t rule it out.