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THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU. THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT YOU.

This isn’t about how men are involved because “What if my girlfriend needs an abortion?” Women need abortion access and you don’t have to fucking justify it with how it might affect you one day.

This isn’t about how “trans and non-binary people will be affected, too!” Because if there is any take that is outstanding shitty, it’s the take that women’s rights need to be justified with statements about they affect people besides women. Feminism is totally unique in this case. We don’t go to BLM rallies and start blowing air about how this is important because it affects white and mixed-race people, too. Because it fucking doesn’t. No one says “BLM is for everyone!,” or really that any social justice movement outside of feminism is “for everyone.” Feminism is for women. It’s for females. Acting like it’s somehow important because, in a nonsensical way, it’s about TIMs is like arguing that rape is wrong because it can make the male partners of victims really upset. Fuck that shit. EITHER UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ABOUT WOMEN, OR FUCK OFF. We don’t need people at our rallies and protests making a point about how this isn’t really about women. Because it 100% totally fucking is.

This isn’t about pouncing on women panicking about their erasure and eroding of their rights to remind them to always talk about you. Making every conversation we’ve had about you has led to this. IF YOU ARE A TIM, YOU HAVE LOST NOTHING. Stop trying to act like you have ANY skin in this game. If someone was screaming that their house was on fire and their family was inside, your way of thinking would have the proper response be a talking-to on how all sorts of buildings can experience environmental hazards too, people can keep things they love and value in those buildings, and the big issue here is they’re not using inclusive language that specifically points that out. Fuck your burning house, lady, have you even considered being kind? Fuck. You. The second you start reminding women in the midst of their own oppression about how much they need to think about other people, you’re feeding so much into feminine stereotypes of martyrdom and giving oneself up that you would do infinitely more for this movement by sitting down and shutting the fuck up. Narcissism has no place here. Sometimes it’s not about you. Die mad about it.

You are either with women, or you can just fuck right the hell off.

***THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU. THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT YOU.*** This isn’t about how men are involved because “What if my girlfriend needs an abortion?” Women need abortion access and you don’t have to fucking justify it with how it *might* affect you one day. This isn’t about how “trans and non-binary people will be affected, too!” Because if there is any take that is outstanding shitty, it’s the take that **women’s rights need to be justified with statements about they affect people besides women.** Feminism is totally unique in this case. We don’t go to BLM rallies and start blowing air about how this is important because it affects white and mixed-race people, too. **Because it fucking doesn’t.** No one says “BLM is for everyone!,” or really that any social justice movement *outside of feminism* is “for everyone.” Feminism is for women. It’s for females. Acting like it’s somehow important because, in a nonsensical way, it’s about TIMs is like arguing that rape is wrong because it can make the male partners of victims really upset. Fuck that shit. ***EITHER UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ABOUT WOMEN, OR FUCK OFF.*** We don’t need people at our rallies and protests making a point about how this isn’t really about women. Because it 100% totally fucking is. This isn’t about pouncing on women panicking about their erasure and eroding of their rights to remind them to always talk about *you*. Making every conversation we’ve had about you has led to this. ***IF YOU ARE A TIM, YOU HAVE LOST NOTHING.*** Stop trying to act like you have ANY skin in this game. If someone was screaming that their house was on fire and their family was inside, your way of thinking would have the proper response be a talking-to on how all sorts of buildings can experience environmental hazards too, people can keep things they love and value in those buildings, and the big issue here is they’re not using inclusive language that specifically points that out. Fuck your burning house, lady, have you even considered being kind? **Fuck. You.** The second you start reminding women in the midst of their own oppression about how much they need to think about other people, you’re feeding so much into feminine stereotypes of martyrdom and giving oneself up that ***you would do infinitely more for this movement by sitting down and shutting the fuck up.*** Narcissism has no place here. Sometimes it’s not about you. Die mad about it. You are either with women, or you can just fuck right the hell off.

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[–] hypatia 34 points Edited

Trans & non-binary is made up bullshit. You are male or female. Disorders of sexual development are vanishingly rare enough to not need acknowledgement. Taking cross-sex hormones and maybe even developing some secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex, does not make you that sex.

I am just so sick of people wanting us to put asterisks all over every little thing we say. If you have a uterus, you're a woman. If you have a dick, you're a man. Get over it and get out of our way.

Disorders of sexual development are vanishingly rare enough to not need acknowledgement.

People with these conditions are still male or female btw! Just having a birth anomaly related somehow to their reproductive organs/system. Two types of gametes, two sexes.

Thank you!!!!

This is exactly how I feel, said much better than I could have said it.

The only LGBTQIAQWERTY people this will affect are the female ones, however they identify and regardless of whom they have sex with.

Since PIV sex is not always a choice, this will affect any woman who can get pregnant, and only them.

Playtime is over, shit is now serious.

Women, and only women, can get pregnant.

Women and only women, are directly affected by this.

If the MultiLetter Mafia wants to help, they need to center the women in their movement for fucking once. They need to stop pretending they don’t know who that means. The ejaculators need to give up the stage for a minute, no matter how hard that is for them, to aid those who actually need it.

The people of the formerly-beautiful-now-bastardized-and-butt-ugly-flag need to put fantasy aside and use their whining powers for good.

They got RewardsForRapists™ going at their local jail, put men in Women’s sports, have mandated play-alongs with fetishes, etc but they can’t help women keep their basic human bodily rights that they have had for half a century

“If the MultiLetter Mafia wants to help, they need to center the women in their movement for fucking once“. Lol. Won’t happen ever.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 5 points

Exactly, because they’re crossdressing MRAs. They’re just as anti-women as the Republicans.

They can’t help because they don’t care.

Any woman discussing abortion rights is 1. A woman, and TIMs can be pretty fucking misogynistic, and 2. Focusing on an issue that isn’t about them, so those women are evil.

Even now, the Twitter Army is grasping at straws, trying to both determine how the fight for abortion rights is all about TIMs, and at the same time condemning it because it’s not about TIMs.

I feel like a broken record, but it pisses me off to no end that these people demand inclusive language in consideration of their feelings and desire for representation, then have the audacity to shout down women who do the same. They don’t even have the decency to use “women and” phrasing. Why should I bother being inclusive at my own expense when they make no effort to reciprocate? Furthermore, wasn’t the whole point of transitioning to distance/exclude themselves from womanhood?? Don’t fucking unsubscribe from the newsletter and then complain about how you’re no longer being thanked by name in the letters from the editor.

This isn’t about how men are involved because “What if my girlfriend needs an abortion?” Women need abortion access and you don’t have to fucking justify it with how it might affect you one day.

Exactly this. If outlawing abortions only affected men - in the sense of having to pay child alimony, not being stripped of your bodily autonomy - I would even consider it a good deed. Men having to think twice about how, why, and when they stick their dicks into someone is none of my problem. My spiteful ass hopes women who want children will dry these scrotes up as much as possible. Don't want to be "baby trappdd"? Boo-fucking-hoo, get a vasectomy you jackass.

Agree!!! If we can't have sex without risking consequences of pregnancy, they can't either.

[–] disco_metal 1 points Edited

You know, I feel like I’ve hardly heard much from TIFs—the only people who don’t identify as women that ostensibly would also be affected. I wonder what they think. Seems like TIMs are the main people I’ve heard with all the dodging of saying the word women, TIMs or overzealous allies. Idk, maybe I’m wrong.

Not that however TIFs feel would justify not using the word women. I wonder if it may go to show them that if we all unite under the banner “women”—well, that might be expecting too much—describing abortion as a women’s rights issue, that there’s strength in numbers

[–] scriptcrone 5 points Edited

That is a most excellent rant. Thoroughly on point.

I think I will create a keyboard expansion shortcut for the first two sentences.

By the way, I do recommend keyboard expansion shortcuts. Being able to type in nbtu and send/post adds a little fillip to the fuck-off energy, because it requires less investment in time and a fraction of the emotional energy compared to typing out the whole thing. Even more so if it's a well-crafted longer response. Delivering the same message in different wording in response to the same goads is a waste of time and energy.

Thank you. This needed to be said and you said it very well.

I’m not sure if it’s because it’s hot off the press, but most of the libfem people I know have commented on this using the term “women” which has been very refreshing to see in an awful time. I hope we can keep this up and get back on the same page fighting for women’s rights 🤞🏻

I was just blocked by no less than a dozen libfems (mostly female!) for focusing on women, and a gay male libfem told me that using the word woman in regards to abortion is dehumanizing…. I do hope you’re right though. I don’t know how people can willingly keep their heads in the sand now that there are tangible consequences.

omg. what absolute DARVO. Woman means adult HUMAN female. Talking about us only in reference to our body parts is what dehumanizes us.

I'm so sick of this bullshit.