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I assume the lack of volunteers is because the LGBs rightfully assume that any Pride event is a "Trans Pride" event. Especially in Tranada

I live in Canada and this is exactly what is happening in my community! Every single pride event is trans-focused and every single staff member of the pride centre is trans/nonbinary. There’s hardly a gay community anymore because it’s all insufferable they’s who don’t even like each other.

Also Canadian. Someone shared with me an official statement about the theme for a pride week in their town. It is a full page long in small type: full of the word queer, but no mention of gay, lesbian, bisexual. Says pride was started to fight transphobia (does not mention homophobia anywhere!), and that trans women fought the hardest and loudest. As jaded as I am, I was still blown away: talk about full-on erasure in plain sight!

Yep, I'm pretty sure it's this. No LGBs want to volunteer anymore just to have their pride hijacked by these monsters.

They also seem to take endless abuse from the T and spicy straights for not doing everything perfectly a hundred percent of the time. Might as well stay home then.

They also seem to take endless abuse from the T and spicy straights for not doing everything perfectly a hundred percent of the time. Might as well stay home then.

Spicy Straights: "What!? You don't think its a good look for a Pride event to have a kink parade and let the diaper fetishists masturbate in front of a preschool!? Are you sure you're actually gay!?"

[–] [Deleted] 25 points Edited

Go ahead. You further seperate the LGB form the T. That's what we want. Montreal LGBs would do well to capitalize off this and make statements really cutting the TQ off.

For the best, to be honest. The fact that there are basically no LGB volunteers makes me think SSA people around here have peaked and know they aren't really welcome in the community or at parades ostensibly for them anymore. I know that's how I feel as a lesbian.

Or they are scared that if they volunteer for a Pride event that isn’t a trans event they will be accused of transphobia , TERFism, etc

[–] crodish 🔪🍠 23 points

But no LGB without the T, they say. Just fucking separate already

Seems like is a good moment to separate. I wont go to any event bc I assume like someone wrote before, any LGBTQWXYZ event is a trans event. If it were clear it's a LGB where lesbians are considered as homosexual adult females and their choices respected, I would. I am not one I just think that's one tiny condition that parades haven't been fulfilling lately.

[–] MaterialReality Only sex is real 3 points

I would love to go to an LGB event like you have detailed! We should organize a private event like this!

[–] MaterialReality Only sex is real 4 points

"LGBTQ2S+"... erm, what? But yes, this does show that LGB is not part of the this acronym, otherwise, how would you be able to go ahead with the event if you are a "community"?

So, Montreal has (had?) a Pride Parade AND a Trans Pride Parade? And, they are (were?) marketed as such? Interesting.

My own very woke city only has a Pride Parade, which, I assume, has already kicked out any actual lesbian ...period...or any decent gay male unwilling to display private sexual fetishes publicly in front of children (haven't been in a while, so am just guessing this from second hand reports).

Getting back to Montreal...are (were?) both parades run by the same people/ same organization? And, it seems that they shut down the regular Pride Parade right before it was supposed to happen: did the organizers not have a clue long before then that they might not have enough volunteers?

Very interesting that Montreal had planned to hold both a regular Pride Parade and a TRANS Pride Parade.. wonder why? Why was it deemed necessary to hold two distinct Pride parades? And, why, ultimately, was the TRANS Pride Parade the only one to take place?

Would love to read a journalistic piece on this...or, to see a documentary that addressed these questions.

Check out this article about the Montreal Trans Pride Parade. Their spokesperson said they have to have a separate trans parade or otherwise the trans messaging gets “diluted.”

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/still-struggling-to-change-my-name-advocates-says-trans-issues-are-diluted-in-pride-movement-1.6017375

[–] GardenGoddess 1 points Edited

One part of this no one thinks about is people may have work and no extra time to volunteer, even though we have a massive hiring gap. Two is the forced french laws in Quebec make out of providence volunteers less likely to come. The last is what everyone is saying on here people are peaking, and the TQ is getting way more support then the rest of the community.

One part of this no one thinks about is people may have work and no extra time to volunteer, even though we have a massive hiring gap.

And TQs are much more likely to be unemployed NEETs than LGBs. 🤣

NEETS? Sorry have not run into this acromone.

Its a slang term that stands for "no education, employment, or training". Basically, it describes the types of adults (typically men) who are just sitting around in their parents house instead of getting a job, going to school, or doing any kind of training

I don’t think the forced language laws have much to do with it. Montreal is a bilingual city with large percentages of the non-francophone population also speaking French.

True, however people are less likely to come out of provice to help if they can get fined or harrased by the Quebec version of Kyle or someone who generally intiled and acts like they owned something.