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“I’m questioning MY gender”

“MY gender identity”

“My body doesn’t match MY gender”

I’m sick of this bizarre individualism. TRA’s act like everybody has a different, special gender...gender is merely what is expected of a human based on their sex.

Gender is NOT a personal thing. NOBODY has a gender.

Gender is societal expectations/norms/shackles foisted on each of us depending on our sex. Gender is the clothes/hobbies/traits attributed to a male or a female because they are male or female. Females get the worst of “gender” as the expectations for the female sex are more restrictive.

Breaking gender norms/not conforming to gendered expectations does not magically grant you a special “identity” it just means you are a man who prefers “feminine” (clothes/hobbies/traits stereotyped as being for women) to “masculine” (clothes/hobbies/traits stereotyped as being for men) or the reverse, if you are a “masculine” woman.

Gender is nothing but shallow empty rubbish. None of this gender shite makes a drop of sense...pronouns for example are a description of sex, not of some flimsy self perception based on stereotypes. It’s so fucking stupid.

Nobody has a gender. We ALL have a biological sex and a personality (or, when talking about certain “folx”, a distinct lack of personality)

“I’m questioning MY gender” “MY gender identity” “My body doesn’t match MY gender” I’m sick of this bizarre individualism. TRA’s act like everybody has a different, special gender...gender is merely what is expected of a human based on their sex. Gender is NOT a personal thing. NOBODY has a gender. Gender is societal expectations/norms/shackles foisted on each of us depending on our sex. Gender is the clothes/hobbies/traits attributed to a male or a female *because* they are male or female. Females get the worst of “gender” as the expectations for the female sex are more restrictive. Breaking gender norms/not conforming to gendered expectations does not magically grant you a special “identity” it just means you are a man who prefers “feminine” (clothes/hobbies/traits stereotyped as being for women) to “masculine” (clothes/hobbies/traits stereotyped as being for men) or the reverse, if you are a “masculine” woman. Gender is nothing but shallow empty rubbish. None of this gender shite makes a drop of sense...pronouns for example are a description of sex, not of some flimsy self perception based on stereotypes. It’s so fucking stupid. Nobody has a gender. We ALL have a biological sex and a personality (or, when talking about certain “folx”, a distinct *lack* of personality)

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What I find interesting is that TRAs acknowledge that gender is a social construct. But if it is a social construct then how can it be innate? It makes no sense.

Yes this is always what I say to TRA: I literally don’t have a ‘gender identity’.

TRA: But you must have an internal sense of your soul magically matching your outer body and exPrEsSioN

Me: No. i really, really don’t. I have no internal sense of anything other than me and my individual personality

This is spot on. And I don't care what pronouns you use to refer to me when referring to me. You're referring to me in the third person. I already know who I am!

They get so upset at being “misgendered” because the person correctly sexing them is refusing to play into their fantasy/delusion.

Someone can call me “mr” or “sir” or “he” or “him” if they wish, I really don’t care. I’m female, I’m a woman and someone pretending otherwise doesn’t change that and causes me zero discomfort 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t “identify” as anything, I just am.

Yes. I have never experienced this elusive gender identity. It wouldn’t bother me if someone used pronouns other than she/her because it wouldn’t change my material reality (though I would find that person odd).

It truly is a new religious movement, and an ideology for the privileged at that. Women and girls in many developing countries (and even within communities in so-called 1st world) cannot identify out of honor killings, FGM, child marriage. It’s insulting, because claiming trans and non-binary identities are prevalent across history and culture implies that every female person suffering from misogyny is at fault because she identifies as female.

what's worse is they can (try to)argue that a woman who suffers FGM and wants to identify out of it is suffering transphobia thus making FGM a trans issue and not a female issue. anything to divide females on female issues and have them focus on the almighty peen

[–] Carrots90 10 points Edited

Guhg

Just develop your personality and your interests.

Try to be a good person.

Try to leave people better than you found them, or at least not worse

If you can find something interesting about other people, you will become interesting yourself. There is always something to be learned from another person

‘Gender’. It’s a shortcut around this conventional wisdom

It really doesn't help that there is such language confusion, which of course is completely deliberate from the TRAs.

So what the fuck is gender? Well it basically depends who you ask ..

Normies: gender is your biological sex but saying "sex" is icky

Radfems: gender societal expectations/norms/shackles foisted on each of us depending on our sex with the explicit purpose to make women the slaves of males

Tru trans: gender is just short for gender identity, so the magical gender soul according the religion we will call trans classic, or the Catholics of trans

Tucute trans: gender is not real! Gender is what you make it! Gender is your clothes if you want it, but you can also have no gender or a fluid gender! Everything goes! They're the sparkly shiny new trans and love non binary and similar idiocies

That's why it's so frustrating which again is by design. I see more trans discussion in normie subs now but reading it is like listening to toddlers talking about string theory. It goes so much over their heads they don't realize it and for someone with know-how it's painful to listen to it. How can you have a discussion between three people when each uses a completely different definition for gender? You can't, and the trans win.

[–] MaterialReality Only sex is real 4 points Edited

Thank you. "Gender" is not this unique aspect of one's life that a select few experience; "gender" is oppressive, you are not "oppressed because of ['your] gender'". That is why so many women on here echo the sentiment that "non-binary" and "trans"-identifying people often think they are unique exceptions, as though everybody else simply fits into these molds or as if they simply think "Eh, whatever" about them. It is sad.

*Edited for grammar

This is very clearly stated. Its fabulous and I’m going to study the main points for talking to people about the fact that biology and material reality still exist.

Thankyou :)

It’s the whole “questioning MY gender” thing

Ffs, how can you “question” something that is immaterial and unsubstantiated? You can’t question your biology as that is innate, you can decide not to conform to the expectations imposed on your biological sex, some choose to alter their body in some sad, delusional attempt to achieve the impossible. Trying to mimic the opposite sex does not make you the opposite sex.

I’m just sick of it all. It makes no sense whatsoever. We are all either a man or a woman and have our own inner lives/interests/hobbies/style/skills/personalities.

Like, wear what you like (so long as it conforms to public decency) and do what you like (within reason) but it’s the charade of it all, the dishonesty and coddling of blatant lies, that disgusts me.

A bloke with silicon implants or moobs and a surgical hole where once there was a penis is still a man and I shall refer to him as such, he has no right to be in our female spaces. I don’t believe in gender, I understand biology.