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I always think when discussing this stuff with libfem friends, at least I can sleep soundly at night knowing I stood up for women and girls. They are merely going along with what is fashionable, the same way people once thought slavery was fine, or turned a blind eye to concentration camps. They have not thought this stuff through, or, if they have, they have decided to do what is fashionable NOT what is right.

I know without a doubt who is on the right side of history, it is not those removing women’s rights, experimenting on children and forcing homosexuals back in the closet.

Well slavery is still fine in many countries and industries don't pretend its gone away.

I always knew the truth would win in the end so I never pandered to it, it was inevitable you can not deny reality, I have been gaslighted enough in the past no way was I going to gaslight myself on this matter, its never mentally good to force yourself into a position you know is BS.

We have receipts now. They will try to erase the History, but we have receipts. We have Rowling, and Maya Forstater. I have tons of prints and saved articles on their bullshit. They are already trying to darvo radical feminism on transgenderism, but we have the receipts now. We have witnesses.

[–] mittimithai male 22 points Edited

I used to believe those people doing foot binding, witch burnings and lobotomies were some sort of distant evolutionary ancestor with a smaller brain, but they are the same species we are.

I would never have believed that so many people would say things that they tangibly know are not true. The future will have some other version of that, I can't imagine what the upper bound of crazy actually is given what we've seen with trans.

The future is gonna be baffled and men will re-write history to absolve themselves or at least go "I dunno how this insanity happened, it's a mystery..."

For anyone reading this a few decades from now, I'll tell you how it happened: unmitigated vitriolic hatred of homosexuals and especially of women keeping traditional gender roles very much alive. These are reinforced, no, fuelled (like fire being doused with gasoline) by pornography. Totally out-of-touch pedophile worshipping ivory tower types (gee, why is it there are always men espousing and promoting child rape as some high-brow and progressive philosophy, this seems to happen a lot across the span of human history, mysteriously...) And opportunistic, and in some cases psychotic (rich transhumanists who want to play god), drug moguls who in the wake of parents no longer being to keen to feed their kids ADD/ADHD meds needed to find a new reason to medicalize kids for profit. That's the very short version but it tells you most of what you need to know.

I really think stuff like The 11 Hour blog will be an invaluable resource in the future. At least I hope it is.

[–] Tiramisuomi 16 points Edited

I'm starting to think this was in large part a reverse Uno card against libfems. They went to hard on the vitriolic "kill all men" messaging while keeping in place everything else that bequeaths males their entitlement (often glorifying sex work, etc). Men found out that there was only one way to be redeemed in the eyes of the internet or cast off their guilt. They fought like it was their only chance to come out on top again, and what do you know, they did. The libfem women who hated them HAVE TO love them now!

People are downvoting, but in some parts, another stone to my peak were the mras using this “well, if anyone can be a woman, then i am a woman, and feminism and your fight and sex based experiences are invalid, and you can’t do shit about it because i am also a woman talking” when i was into libfem and queer.

[–] GenderHeretic Assigned2LegsAB 1 points

Very much. It's illustrated in this misogynist's comic here: https://ibb.co/xh1q63n. He's absolutely loving said reverse Uno card.

(and yes, the scrote has his feminist stereotypes confused)

They're already setting up women as the patsy.

Interesting that the word patsy is also a woman's name. Quite telling actually.

Yep. The word Trivia used to be the name of a goddess. Then men gradually changed the meaning until the word trivial became associated with unimportant matters. Men have been raping language for a long long time.

[–] Lipsy #guuuuuuuuuuuurl 6 points

The future will condemn us for pandering to trans agenda Eilis O'Hanlon

When people look back at scandals from the past involving the neglect or abuse of children by church and state, the question they alws ask is: How was this allowed to happen?

They then reassure themselves it could never happen today, because caring and conscientious people, having learned from the mistakes of the past, would now speak out against it.

If only that were true.

Between 2011 and 2021, more than 200 Irish children under the age of 17 were referred to a controversial UK clinic that treated transgender patients. They included 32 children aged 10 or under. Two were five years old.

That clinic, the Tavistock in London, has now been ordered by the British government to close after it was deemed "not safe" for children.

Critics had warned for years that the treatments the clinic performed on children who expressed doubts or unease about their gender were driven by ideological fervor rather than medical ethics and good practice, but they were either ignored or condemned as 'transphobic'.

The recent Cass Report vindicated every one of their misgivings. Despite that, there has ben virtual silence in Ireland about what happened to Irish children sent to this hellish place.

TDs aren't raising the issue. The media is largely silent.

In marked contrast, an inspection report by the Health Information and Quality Authority (Hiqa) that showed dozens of children in foster care in north Dublin were overdue a visit by child and family agency Tusla was given the full interrogative treatment on RTÉ's News At One last week, despite the fact that, thankfully, "there was no child at immediate risk in any of the cases discussed".

Why has there not been similar concern about children who were actively put in harm's way by being referred to the Tavistock clinic? Why are no questions being asked of Irish authorities who approved this egregious trade?

Culpability for these failures reaches high up in the State. The Programme for Government put together in 2020 included a pledge to follow similar guidelines in treating trans patients to those now deemed to be dangerously unfit for purpose.

Here, too, anyone cautioning against this practice has been dismissed. It's now known that a number of doctors, prominent among them Paul Moran, a senior psychiatrist with Ireland's National Gender Service, warned the HSE in early 2019 that its close partnership with Tavistock was inappropriate because of concerns about the lack of proper oversight.

"What was going on was very wrong", he said. Nonetheless, the HSE continued to refer children there.

All this should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention to this phenomenon in recent years. Trans activist groups funded by the taxpayer have been given free rein to go into schools to proselytize, weaponizing spurious statistics about the risk of suicide among gender-confused young people, the upshot of which is to poison children's minds against their own bodies.

Teachers and parents say more and more children are presenting as trans after being exposed to such propaganda online, where activists proliferate.

Professionals who bravely resist this pressure by reassuring children that there is nothing wrong with their bodies are mendaciously accused of advocating "conversion therapy" when it is the activists themselves who are urging children to reject their bodies.

Nowhere in the literature published by these trans groups does it concede that leaving children alone was long advocated as the best approach as most of them outgrow the phase. The only course of action ever pushed is immediate affirmation of young people's confused feelings, followed by a lifetime of medical intervention.

The publicly funded Transgender Equality Network Ireland (Teni) even offers what it calls "gender identity skills training" for health workers, using self-styled "national and international experts", paid for by the HSE's Social Inclusion Division, meaning the State is pushing models of care known to be widely discredited.

Teni makes no bones about what it wants to see. It explicitly urges the "abolishment of the medical/diagnostic model" of treatment, to be replaced by "the right to our own bodies".

The problem is that it wants the right to influence how children think about their bodies, too, while continuing to state as if it was a fact that puberty blockers are reversible—a highly irresponsible assertion two years after Irish doctors officially stopped making any such claims.

These are the people who have been given extraordinary power over the States' response to this phenomenon.

Children's Ombudsman Niall Muldoon was even forced to acknowledge last year that a piece he wrote for this newspaper about the issue was "done in collaboration" with Teni, as well as the LGBTQ+ youth charity BeLongTo.

BeLongTo also states that meetings of "trans, non-binary and questioning young people" are held weekly in the Children's Ombudsman office.

Ministers urgently need to address these concerns. A trawl of the Government's own website fails to find a single press release published on the closure of the Tavistock clinic, despite the fact hundreds of vulnerable Irish children went through the system.

If this was any other service that had been called into question, ministers in charge would be recalled from holiday to answer concerns. The opposition would demand an inquiry. Doctors would be pressed to explain why they continued to send children to the Tavistock long after its methods had been called into doubt.

Prime Time would be scheduling special broadcasts, clamoring to know why, despite being in the job since 2015, more than long enough to get on top of his brief, the Children's Ombudsman was, in his own words, "not aware" of the "poor standing" of the Tavistock clinic, even after the UK health regulator took enforcement action against it last year when first rating its service as "inadequate".

In the aftermath of the Cass Report, it was glancingly reported that Irish hospitals were looking for alternative sources of treatment for Irish patients, but what reassurances have been sought that desperate children will not simply be referred to clinics in other countries that follow the same discredited treatments?

Everyone who looks at this honestly knows full well that, if this involved any other failure of care by the State, it would be everywhere on the news in Ireland, as the cervical cancer scandal was. Instead, because it's about patients who identify as trans, there is an awkward and fearful silence from politicians and the media alike.

This is how scandals happened in the past. This is how they're happening now. If concerns raised by senior figures such as Paul Moran have been disregarded by the Irish Government, officials, the HSE and doctors, breaching their statutory duty to protect children from harm, future generations will have every right to condemn us as strongly as we condemn church and state of old.

Any arrogant belief in our moral superiority over those who said nothing in the past stands exposed as hollow.

You know, I can sort of buy that the average person feels manipulated/pressured, but I will never forgive the doctors and therapists who went along with all this.

[–] Lipsy #guuuuuuuuuuuurl 7 points Edited

The whole article is here

ED: i transcribed it into this post

So listen to the women condemning it now. Baffling that some people need to evoke the hypothetical of a distant historian to conceptualise their actions objectively and contextualise their actions in the long-term.

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