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1) Obsessive focus on male genitalia

Constant reference to dicks, 'girl dicks' and so on. No woman is ever so focused on male genitalia, or feels the need to mention it at every opportunity. It is a very male way of thinking, encouraged by pornography.

2) Resorting to sexualised threats at the least provocation

The behaviour of men in both war and peacetime shows rape is their favourite way to punish and humiliate women. The spate of TIMs threatening to rape women that they disagree with (often with luridly violent imagery such as using a 'broken bottle', enforced pregnancy and so on) shows just how male they are.

3) Belief that women who speak against men must be silenced

Throughout history men have tried to silence non-compliant women using devices such as the scold's bridle. Disagreeable women are not worth listening to. If they are not agreeing with a man's every thought then they need to be 'kerb stomped', orally raped or have their lips glued shut. Only a man would think this way.

4) Fetishisation of women's bodies and bodily processes

Example: When women discuss their breasts, the focus will be purely practical - the difficulty of finding a well fitting bra, how to avoid pain during sports, and so on. Men by contrast discuss breasts using the language of pornography. All women cringe when a male novelist attempts to write a female character who loves looking at her own 'bouncing, perky' breasts. TIMs use the same objectifying language and betray their male mindset. The same goes for female body processes such as menstruation and pregnancy (but not menopause, see point 6).

5) Narcissistic disregard for others

It is rare for a middle aged woman with a family and responsibilities to suddenly decide to upturn the life of her partner and children just to chase a sexual high. The man with a mid life crisis chasing much younger women is common enough to be a cliche. The only difference is a TIM decides that he can become the younger woman. His family must show nothing but support as he chases his thrills, or expect to be labelled bigots.

6) Women valued for youth and looks not intelligence and experience

Many men will refuse to read a book with a woman's name on the front. A female academic can be derided for her age and looks, never mind the quality of her insights. TIMs always seek to become young, sexy and nubile, as in a man's mind, this is all a woman 'should' be. Rarely do they spend time reading women's writing or speaking to older women about their experiences. To TIMs as with many men, women are primarily sexual objects, always.

7) Paraphilias

It is well-known that paraphilias are a male phenomenon, and that men with one fetish will develop a cluster of others. AGP is the most obvious, but just a few minutes in any online TIM space will show how many of them have clusters of fetishes. Diapers, catgirls, childlike anime characters and so on. Women find these fetishes distasteful to say the least. They are a sign of a very male depravity.

8) Testing and violating boundaries

All women know how it feels to have a man test boundaries with a view to crossing them. Spaces meant for vulnerable women are now being violated in this way by TIMs. Spaces meant for lesbians can only be said to have been colonised.

9) Gaslighting

Male abusers have often told abused women that they are 'crazy', that it 'didn't happen like that'. Now we are told collectively that no-one is denying the existence of sex, or telling children they are born in the wrong bodies, or that women are being threatened with rape for expressing an opinion. If we produce evidence, we are given the no true Scotsman fallacy.

Note: These are just a few of my own observations, largely made online. Critiques and additions welcome.

***1) Obsessive focus on male genitalia*** Constant reference to dicks, 'girl dicks' and so on. No woman is ever so focused on male genitalia, or feels the need to mention it at every opportunity. It is a very male way of thinking, encouraged by pornography. ***2) Resorting to sexualised threats at the least provocation*** The behaviour of men in both war and peacetime shows rape is their favourite way to punish and humiliate women. The spate of TIMs threatening to rape women that they disagree with (often with luridly violent imagery such as using a 'broken bottle', enforced pregnancy and so on) shows just how male they are. ***3) Belief that women who speak against men must be silenced*** Throughout history men have tried to silence non-compliant women using devices such as the scold's bridle. Disagreeable women are not worth listening to. If they are not agreeing with a man's every thought then they need to be 'kerb stomped', orally raped or have their lips glued shut. Only a man would think this way. ***4) Fetishisation of women's bodies and bodily processes*** Example: When women discuss their breasts, the focus will be purely practical - the difficulty of finding a well fitting bra, how to avoid pain during sports, and so on. Men by contrast discuss breasts using the language of pornography. All women cringe when a male novelist attempts to write a female character who loves looking at her own 'bouncing, perky' breasts. TIMs use the same objectifying language and betray their male mindset. The same goes for female body processes such as menstruation and pregnancy (but not menopause, see point 6). ***5) Narcissistic disregard for others*** It is rare for a middle aged woman with a family and responsibilities to suddenly decide to upturn the life of her partner and children just to chase a sexual high. The man with a mid life crisis chasing much younger women is common enough to be a cliche. The only difference is a TIM decides that he can become the younger woman. His family must show nothing but support as he chases his thrills, or expect to be labelled bigots. ***6) Women valued for youth and looks not intelligence and experience*** Many men will refuse to read a book with a woman's name on the front. A female academic can be derided for her age and looks, never mind the quality of her insights. TIMs always seek to become young, sexy and nubile, as in a man's mind, this is all a woman 'should' be. Rarely do they spend time reading women's writing or speaking to older women about their experiences. To TIMs as with many men, women are primarily sexual objects, always. ***7) Paraphilias*** It is well-known that paraphilias are a male phenomenon, and that men with one fetish will develop a cluster of others. AGP is the most obvious, but just a few minutes in any online TIM space will show how many of them have clusters of fetishes. Diapers, catgirls, childlike anime characters and so on. Women find these fetishes distasteful to say the least. They are a sign of a very male depravity. ***8) Testing and violating boundaries*** All women know how it feels to have a man test boundaries with a view to crossing them. Spaces meant for vulnerable women are now being violated in this way by TIMs. Spaces meant for lesbians can only be said to have been colonised. ***9) Gaslighting*** Male abusers have often told abused women that they are 'crazy', that it 'didn't happen like that'. Now we are told collectively that no-one is denying the existence of sex, or telling children they are born in the wrong bodies, or that women are being threatened with rape for expressing an opinion. If we produce evidence, we are given the no true Scotsman fallacy. *Note: These are just a few of my own observations, largely made online. Critiques and additions welcome.*

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[–] littleowl12 58 points (+58|-0)

Beautiful post. And I've notice that a lot of men in true crime forums have trouble accepting #7 as true. They all "know LOTS of women!" with paraphilias and claim the rate is the same as men. (They really want to believe in that dog/peanut urban legend, too). They're ashamed of #7, along with violence being a mostly male problem, too. So they cling to any story about violent women, and muse that the research much be biased, and that women are just as paraphilic as they are.

So I'd add

10) Claiming women have identical sexuality to them

Women do not orgasm through anal sex alone, women do not have paraphilias like men do, there are not as many female serial killers and male (or any violent criminal) and yet TIMs frequently make all these claims. They insist that it's true to the very audience they are least likely to fool- women themselves.

[–] hellamomzilla 26 points (+26|-0)

We need to shed this scientific terminology. Enough. These are perverts, to use the catch-all former term. Yes, it's negative. That's because everyone knows that these are profoundly creepy men -- they only see women as PARTS and they'll do close to anything to feed their perversions, especially in public.

I'm so over this idea that this is some equal-opportunity deal.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 6 points (+8|-2)

I'm so conflicted! I agree with your sentiment as a sentiment but not as a strategy. Because men are very sensitive to criticism (something I'll suggest as an addition), and because men hold power in society, describing men as perverts does not help us get inroads into male sexuality or male power. I hate that we have to strategize like men are hypersensitive toddlers in the brain and adults in the body, but this seems to be the cards we were dealt.

[–] hellamomzilla 18 points (+18|-0)

Historically, calling these perversions "paraphilia" was a move of sex researchers to take out a negative connotation. Of course, those researchers were men and generally science wants to take out moral considerations. The problem there is that those same researchers fail to acknowledge that those behaviors they want to neutralize are not neutral to the person they're aimed AT.

I'm not out writing papers or making legal arguments. I'm just saying, I'm calling this shit what it is here and in my day-to-day -- perverted behaviors, perverts, sex creeps. I'm not using neutral language instituted to elevate ugly behaviors.

[–] Les 18 points (+18|-0)

Even when women are recorded for violent crimes, we often find that those women who commit murder often do so in retaliation of severe abuse or as a form of self-defense. Female serial killers and violent criminals exist obviously, but men overlook how on average the depravity of violent male crime is on a completely different scale.

[–] littleowl12 24 points (+24|-0)

Aileen Wournos was an unusual case even among other female serial killers. And as far as "I believe she believed she was being raped" goes- what were those men doing, cruising around creepy parts of Florida at two in the morning, picking up a strung-out woman in bad condition? Once she got in the car, what did they plan to do to her? How did they plan to treat her? They never got violent with her at all?

Never?

They just wanted to talk about the gospel of Jesus?

[–] MsTig0 11 points (+11|-0)

Aileen Wuornos had such a horrible childhood and youth her psyche must have been totally damaged. She was raped by her own grandpa and probably her dad (who did time for child molestation), and then raped and impregnated by her grandpa's friend when she was only 14. Apparently her grandpa pimped her out to his friends. I do believe she believed she was being raped, and I believe she was so traumatised and destroyed by men that she just ... ended up the way she was.

[–] bornwithovaries 4 points (+4|-0)

It could be that some of them were traveling (I've traveled along interstate highways at 2am) and that a few of them genuinely acted from a protective impulse, but how was she to know that? It's Schrodinger's Rapist.

[–] adun 0 points (+0|-0)

People find it hard to believe a prostitute would be raped by creepy, violent men and that her life would be on the line? Really?? What world are these people living in?

[–] kyria 15 points (+15|-0)

If you define "serial killer" as someone who murders randomly, I haven't been able to find any women on the list. The women that are brought up as "serial killers" (e.g Wuornos or women who kill multiple husbands for the insurance money) knew their victims and had reasons to kill them. And in the case of Wuornos, very good reasons.

[–] questioningtw 4 points (+5|-1)

There was Belle Gunness who murdered men for money...I can't think of any women serial killers like Ted Bundy though.

[–] Verdandi 4 points (+6|-2) Edited

Just look at the woman on federal death row right now—childhood packed with violent sexual abuse leading to extreme mental illness. She murdered a pregnant woman and cut the fetus out of her, which is not something a mentally healthy person would ever do. She suffered extreme trauma and reacted in a terrible way, but I am not comfortable killing her over this. It won't bring the mother or baby back, it won't fix anything.

[–] tanso 15 points (+15|-0) Edited

And the men know that it is false, but they push it anyway to appease their insecure egos. This is why men online all agree about a specific phenomenon of feeling regret and self-disgust after a porn session. Women don't share this post-masturbatory "depression" at all, not from my experience nor from speaking to female friends. Some underdeveloped sliver of moral conscience in men recognizes what they are doing is perverse and feels shame.

But instead of using that as an opportunity for self-reflection, in perfectly predictable male fashion, all these pornsick men have convinced themselves it's some innate evolutionary impulse. Though if it is some innate biological drive, that is terrifying as it means men have an innate mechanism that punishes them when they stop masturbating or having sex.

[–] bornwithovaries 6 points (+6|-0)

They feel regret and disgust after a porn session not because they were masturbating but because they know what they were watching was exploitative. They don't want to admit they empathize with us, but I suspect they often do. And then quash it so they can keep "looking manly."

[–] adun 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Women don't share this post-masturbatory "depression" at all

As someone who has struggled with this all my teens, it's porn, or at least unhealthy porn-based fantasies. It's due to watching people being treated terribly, getting off to that and then rightfully feeling bad about it. Once I rejected porn and switched to healthy and positive fantasies that don't revolve around exploitation and degradation, all feelings of shame stopped and were replaced with a kind of happy warmth. Men try to sell this to each other as some kind of innate unavoidable aspect of male sexuality, they tell each other it's normal to feel disgusted with themselves and their partners and that they just have to push those pesky moral feelings back and get desensitised to it, that it's not indicative of any problem, and if you say otherwise, you're a religious prude who thinks masturbation and male sexuality/men are vile.

Same goes for men who tell women they're lucky because they have orgasms that actually feel good and last longer, while men are in a constant rush to get their rocks off asap. Again, I've experienced both, and orgasms started feeling much more substantial after I cut all ties to anything pornographic and stopped seeing sex as something to just get over with. Men don't want to let go of their fucked up narcissistic sexuality and they have the gall to tell women they're lucky for not using their gender as an excuse to drown themselves in dehumanising deprived shit.

[–] kopfinhand 13 points (+13|-0)

Some men will swear up and down that rape and pedophilia are committed by men and women at the same rate, and that the reason you don't see women represented is female privilege.

[–] questioningtw 9 points (+9|-0)

It isn't just TIMS that do that either! I hear everyday people talk about how women are even more violent then men somehow...proof of this: Jodi Arias and Karla Holmaka.Um, you literally just named two people....There are way to many male serial killers to count. And if women have just as man fetishes and paraphillias then where are all the women harassing people for pictures of feet or dressing up as a baby. The only kink women seem to like as much as men is BDSM.

[–] bornwithovaries 5 points (+5|-0)

Yeah and most of them are subs so I don't trust their testimony. They would say they like it.

[–] adun 1 points (+1|-0)

The only kink women seem to like as much as men is BDSM.

Women are trained all their lives to be into whatever their male partner wants to do to them, so it's unsurprising that they're into BDSM that's literally a sexualisation of patriarchal hierarchies. It goes past the usual kinks and directly sexualises the hierarchy itself. The worst thing is that so often when you see women talk about BDSM, you can see they're deeply convinced it's a sign of trust and love, while men talk about it in terms of "whores and sluts being put in their proper place".

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[–] MelMarieCurebee 23 points (+23|-0) Edited

2 can be expanded and combined with #8. A tactic men often use is to try to embarrass a woman by crossing her boundaries, being overly familiar with her trying to insist that she likes what the guy is offering. Trying to confound her in order to lower her defenses. I have encountered a LOT of TIMs doing this. They get all flirty and ask "do you like me?", and give you nicknames and stuff, in a really condescending way. It's very much a guy thing.

A very meta addition:

Men are hypersensitive about their gender identities being negated. Just look at the word "emasculated" - do women have a word like this? No. There is no negatively connotated word for taking away a woman's essence of femininity. Now that TRAs have appropriated femininity without giving up masculinity, they get mad if you take away their femininity (by pointing out they aren't actually feminine, as you've done in this list). So the most masculine thing they could do is get mad at being pointed out as being not particularly feminine.

[–] yesisaiditxx 14 points (+14|-0) Edited

Soooo accurate! It is indeed masculine to have your ego bound up with perception and the way your sexual potency is seen to the point that we have language (although words don’t mean stuff anymore?) that articulates when this is ‘taken’ from a man. It ISSSS the exact same temper tantrum in TIMs but they’ve just flipped femininity for masculinity.

Women don’t have this because we don’t live in a world in which we can let that fuel our morale and ego because if we did we’d all be picking up the message that we’re either stupid, naive, bitchy, slutty, pushy, boring, prudish, annoying, silly, and so on. We already do deal with that...but we maintain some kind of interior world in which we are capable of having our own self-perception independent of the way we’re perceived by others in order to survive this. Most men are so used to positive attention, or at the very least an absence of negative attention, that if they’re insulted they have absolute melt downs because who are they without esteem!?!?!?! Some men don’t do this...but those men are about as far on the “would never” side of the would-you-turn-TiM spectrum as you can get.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 13 points (+14|-1)

You said it all better than me, imo. "Male fragility" is a real thing and I'm constantly amazed at how upset men get over the smallest criticism. Especially men who dole out endless criticism to women, they seem to be the most fragile of all. I have a talent for mirroring tone in a discussion, and when I am facing a lot of heat from men, way too much criticism and negativity, I'll give them the tiniest drop of their own medicine, and they crumble so quickly I have actually started to feel bad about doing it. They absolutely cannot handle it. I feel like a monster. (I don't put up with shit, I tend to remove that negativity from my life when it gets to be too oblivious, but it's so easy to make these guys fall apart using their own behavior that I have to avoid the moral pitfall of doing it all the time).

Some men don’t do this...but those men are about as far on the “would never” side of the would-you-turn-TiM spectrum as you can get.

Fact.

[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

You are right about men being emotionally fragile babies, mainly when it comes to anything regarding their egos. My husband wonders why I am sometimes ruthlessly critical of him to his face. It's because I believe he should be able to handle it, and not get butthurt over the slightest thing. Especially when it's coming from a woman (aka, me). ;p

[–] greenbeans [OP] 13 points (+13|-0)

Yes I agree in a weird way that it is emasculating for them to realise that they can't just become the perfect woman of their fantasies.

I do think that in their minds they are the lords of creation and can make anything possible. Well I say that they can't!

[–] bornwithovaries 5 points (+5|-0)

The entire culture supports them in that thinking, too. Think about it, even the religions... a male god who says "let there be light" and bam, there's light.

The writer Starhawk addressed this in various ways in her books, especially Truth or Dare, but oddly is a TRA now.

[–] Alexiares 1 points (+1|-0)

sigh Starhawk too, huh? I shouldn't be surprised because she always struck me as rather hostile to lesbians, but it's still a disappointment, and I am resisting falling into the habit of simply equating any level of anti-lesbian behaviour to a TRA commitment.

But to add to the actual topic thread here, I have a favourite quote from Catharine MacKinnon on this, though she is baffling in her position on transactivism at this point too: "Men's power to force the world to be anyway their mind can invent means that they are forever wondering what's happening out there."

[–] shewolfoffrance 1 points (+1|-0)

In my experience, it's much more common for men to expect the world to bend to their will. Women are more adept at making compromises and curtailing their expectations.

[–] Verdandi 11 points (+11|-0) Edited

They all use "emasculated" wrong. That's the actual term for cutting off a penis (castration is just the balls).

The real word they're looking for is "upset". They feel "upset" when women "humiliate" them. Men don't feel some sort of male-only feeling that's highly important or different from other feelings, it's literally just normal "upset-ness". They just deny they ever feel such "weak" feelings and instead misuse a word hyperbolicly.

Being humiliated to a man is literally the physical equivalent of cutting off his penis, apparently.

[–] bornwithovaries 6 points (+6|-0)

The reason "emasculated" means "cutting off a penis" is because men think they're men because they have penises, rather than the biological fact that one grew a penis before birth because one is male. So it's all the same bullshit conditional-maleness thinking even if they use the word correctly.

Once male, always male, fellas. If you're an adult human who was born with testes then you're a man no matter what body parts you grow, change, or remove.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 4 points (+4|-0)

I think it exposes an important aspect of male psychology, though. They see their manhood as tied to their status in society, when their status lowers they feel like less of a man. Women don't have this experience of the world, so our language reflects normal human language.

I want to point out that emasculated actually comes from "castration" in Latin.

[–] Carrots90 21 points (+21|-0)

This is all so true!!

Having to be ‘centered’ and be the biggest voice in the room.

Sexual rejection is violence.

[–] Gorgo 20 points (+20|-0)

A real life experience I had with 3) Belief that women who speak against men must be silenced on a smaller scale.

There's a transwoman in one of my classes, who leaves their camera on during class. They pick their nose literally the whole time class is going.

I've always believed that if I can help a woman out by letting her know about something she can change immediately to save her from embarrassment, that I should do so politely. Like lipstick on the teeth, skirt tucked into the underpants.... I genuinely was trying to be helpful, and also I didn't want to watch someone pick their nose through a class.

So I was super nice and emailed the TiM and said, "hey, sorry to bring up something so awkward, I just wanted to let you know that your nose picking is visible on the camera, and you can totally turn the camera off to take care of any personal hygiene issues."

They freaked out and responded that I am actually the one with the problem because I'm supposed to be watching the lecture instead of paying attention to them.

I just thought it was weird because any woman I know would have thanked me for letting them know. The women I shared the story with said they would have responded kindly, or ya know, not been picking their nose on a recorded video lecture. The men I told this story too all thought I was being rude for pointing it out.

[–] greenbeans [OP] 14 points (+14|-0)

Nose picking on camera! That is truly grim! It's true a woman would be mortified and apologise. Different socialisation.

[–] Gorgo 10 points (+10|-0)

Right? No woman with her full mental faculties would ever pick their nose on camera the way this TiM did. It wasn't like a nose rub, or a quick adjustment (which I think anyone is capable of).

They were picking their nose, like finger inside, pulling out boogers and wiping them somewhere, repeatedly, across several hours long lectures. Usually they were one of very few people with their camera on, so their nose picking is in some of the lecture videos. They didn't stop after I let them know, so I can only assume at this point that the class witnessing their nose picking is entirely intentional.

[–] shewolfoffrance 0 points (+0|-0)

I've had men get offended when I pointed out privately that their pants were unzipped or their pocket linings were sticking out.

I'm just kind of stunned imagening anyone responding the way the guys you told the story to did.

[–] Gorgo 9 points (+9|-0)

I only told two guys about it because I don't make it a habit to keep male friends. But when I told them that I was planning to say something to the TiM they both said that approaching the nose-picker about it was weird and rude. But I was like "no, if this person is a woman, then I would tell any woman that they're being recorded picking their nose" so I did.

[–] BurnBooker 17 points (+17|-0)

From my own family: relying on the labour of women. My trans sibling has never left home, has not worked in 20 years and spends the day/night gaming online.

[–] greenbeans [OP] 7 points (+7|-0)

That must be tough for you and the rest of the family. Strangely the 'double shift' of work plus chores is a less attractive part of womanhood for TIMs. Can't think why!

[–] Verdandi 5 points (+5|-0)

Cut off their internet access.

It really amazes me that people actually put up with such terrible behavior. Does nobody have a spine anymore?

[–] BurnBooker 3 points (+3|-0)

Actually I want to add that said sibling uses many of the same tactics my abusive father used on her.

[–] kyria 16 points (+16|-0)

I consider myself to be a radical feminist (I've read the literature, appreciate the analysis and understand the nature vs nurture argument) BUT... how can anyone read this and not think that testosterone really does rot the brain?

[–] comradeconradical 16 points (+16|-0)

This reminds me of the old subreddit r/blackpillfeminism. Those women were tired not only of libfems but also of radfems, because they said radfems put too much stock in socialization/patriarchy as the root of male depravity. The blackpilled feminists believed men are depraved by nature, and that no amount of socialization would truly change this.

It's a controversial and cynical take, but an interesting one. I personally believe in a mix of nature and nurture. Sadly, most people don't want to discuss either aspect.

[–] BloodOfTheRaptor 11 points (+12|-1)

I go back and forth on this issue a lot. I think part of the issue of placing blame on their very nature is that it excuses their behavior. "if it's innate we are trying to get them to refute their very nature." This argument suggests that it would be wrong to corral nature. However, the argument that their depravity and violence is innate says we must be weary and on guard of all of them. I do think it is true that we must be on guard of all of them.

Regardless I refuse to excuse their behavior and do not subscribe to excusing them through the argument that their behavior is innate.

It's a tough argument because the depravity and violence seems so ubiquitous that Occam's razor tells us that it must be innate to be so ubiquitous. However, a ubiquitous and insidious patriarchal society really could cultivate them.

I'm reminded of the Rick and Morty episode Raising Gazorpazorp, where Rick and Summer go to the planet where the men are animistic brutes and the women had to separate their two societies for some semblance of a civilized world free of the monstrous brutes.

I completely agree with you about refusing to 'let them off the hook' just because it's 'natural' for them to be violent and depraved. In fact it would be a naturalistic fallacy to excuse them. Just because it's a result of nature doesn't mean it's good and that they can't take steps to mitigate it instead of encourage it- for example, by getting anger management, therapy, and abstaining from porn.

Nice reference with the Rick and Morty episode. Reminds me also of the tribe in Africa comprised of just women and children, where they decided to reject men for safety and to educate themselves. Last I heard they were thriving, but the surrounding males weren't too pleased. Also reminds me tangentially of studies on social interaction in primates. When aggressive male leaders are removed, the rest of the pack flourishes, including the less aggressive males.

All in all, it does seem like males in general have an innate tendency towards violence, but the fact that we have free will and consciousness should mean positive socialization, self-awareness, and self-improvement could reduce aggressive ideation and behavior. But, the hard part is to convince the problem males to introspect and seek positive growth...

[–] EternaEspiral 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Lol I think about that episode A LOT and how they had to make the women afraid of spiders to make it somewhat ridiculous because it would have been too accurate and insulting/scary for them if they hadn't.

[–] boudica 5 points (+5|-0) Edited

It is an interesting thought, though, and one that can also sort of be tied into social arguments. I've read a few things that have focused on who the men were who passed on the most genes throughout history, and how - as in nature - typically the strongest and most virile males dominated. All of the wars throughout history that resulted in the abduction and rape of the women and girls in conquered lands, women not being able to choose their own "mates" throughout the vast majority of history, the normalization of bigamy (but only for men!), etc. Think about the famous legendary statistic of the descendants of Genghis Khan. If there is truth to certain levels of aggression and depravity being embedded in our genetic makeup, then it would make sense that the most aggressive and depraved genes were the ones that got passed along the most.

[–] Alexiares 3 points (+3|-0)

The number of feminists who do not agree with most or all of a radical feminist analysis who insist that it's radical feminists who insist that men are biologically predisposed to depravity is mindboggling sometimes. I am also a radical feminist, and with admitted reluctance have had to conclude there must be a nature aspect in it, because men seem to fall into these behaviours no matter how much they negatively impact the men themselves. It may be that their hormonal reward and response systems are easier to hijack and harder to get back on track, considering how many of these behaviours become locked together with addictions and addiction-like patterns. That's definitely not a comfortable or politically acceptable line to check on these days.

Yeah, sadly I'm never surprised that most people don't actually know what radfems believe in. Between people's general aversion to feminism and misinformation spread by TRA and MRA, the only people who understand radical feminism are those who make it a point to learn more about it. I wish there was more unbiased awareness, because I think many people would ultimately agree with the majority of our views.

Amazing point about addictive tendencies though. Last I checked men do have higher prevalence towards addiction than women. I think in general women are more likely to introspect, notice problem behaviors, and have the motivation and discipline to change. Maybe because we have developed to be hyper aware of both ourselves and of social consequences..

Regardless of the root being biological or societal, I hope we as a society stop excusing and justifying male violence and depravity.

[–] yesisaiditxx 14 points (+14|-0) Edited

10) Upset and revolt when you explicitly discuss female-only bodily functions.

11) Belief that women should be subservient to men (behind all of the sexual fantasies, for example of being used and abused as someone’s little kinky cat girl)

12) Complete inability to accept women may have a valid point when in disagreement. If you don’t like what she has to say she’s stupid.

13) Rage at being called out for their BS.

[–] redawn 9 points (+9|-0) Edited

i got banned from r/actuallesbians yesterday for saying

*i thought it was supposed to be a safe place for lesbians...

vagina havers loving vagina havers...*

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