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I didn't ask Vanessa before making this post, but I just noticed Samantha Lux just made a video about her and her comment section on youtube is being brigaded in real time. They're mass reporting her video now, too. Drop by and comment and support her channel ASAP:

"Samantha Lux is NOT a woman" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiVG3knE6VI

Vanessa's channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM96NFEcm0BBsQY_qX6NvIA

I didn't ask Vanessa before making this post, but I just noticed Samantha Lux just made a video about her and her comment section on youtube is being brigaded in real time. They're mass reporting her video now, too. Drop by and comment and support her channel ASAP: "Samantha Lux is NOT a woman" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiVG3knE6VI Vanessa's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM96NFEcm0BBsQY_qX6NvIA

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[–] mycelium 58 points (+58|-0)

Thanks for the feedback sir

Yeah, this is where your projection backfires on you. We're not the ones who can't step outside the house without 2 hours worth of hair and make up. We're not the ones who require constant attendance by handmaidens, reassuring us how much of a woman we are like the seagulls in finding nemo. We're not the ones whose entire identity relies on looking like a barbie doll. Most of all, we're not the ones spending agonizing hours questioning whether or not we are women, when somebody calls us "sir". Your ridiculous parody of "womanhood" falls apart without the crutches of femininity.

[–] Lawful 29 points (+29|-0)

Not going to lie, seeing that comment made me chuckle. I honestly think they think it hurts?

[–] bellatrixbells 13 points (+13|-0)

I assume he does. Since his entire identity depends on others telling him "yes, you're a woman", he probably thinks women will also feel distressed on being called men.

Like, dude, all I have to do is look into the mirror and I know. It doesn't matter what you say. My being a woman rests in physical reality, not baseless claims by panderers...

[–] pennygadget 23 points (+23|-0)

I got "sir'd" a lot during my androgynous/butch phase as a kid. Somehow, I got through that misgendering without screaming slurs at people or throwing myself into traffic to end it all. That's how REAL women deal with that shit

[–] Moonstone 20 points (+20|-0)

Funny how they think misgendering is ‘literal violence’ and then go on to call us sir.

Majority of comments seem to be attacking her looks, calling her ugly and not feminine enough to be a woman. How progressive.

[–] Freyja 6 points (+6|-0)

Their reasoning is "it's not literal violence when the person doesn't have dysphoria" LOL.

[–] delicate_silicate 18 points (+18|-0)

He really did try tho. Mr. Sam the man who wants to be m'am. Lol.

[–] Srfthrowaway 15 points (+15|-0)

Yeah he thought that was super clever. I love that she made it the pinned comment!

[–] Binah17 8 points (+8|-0)

That was hilarious! I'm like "wait aren't you a transwoman?" Your the male here moron.

[–] starry 5 points (+5|-0)

I get "misgendered" sometimes at work although it's always in emails because I have ambigous first name.

I take note of the "Sir" or whatever and just go on with my day. I don't usually even correct them because I work in a technical field and if these men (and it's always men) think they're dealing with another man, they're less likely to question my instructions than if they knew I was a woman. Tried and true, unfortunately.

[–] BoxingBelle 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Same, my name is ambiguous in sex and also last name first name so I often get mistaken for male....funnily enough it hasn't killed me yet 🤔

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[–] sylviasmushrooms 51 points (+51|-0)

So many absolutely hideous comments focused on appearance and making misogynistic assumptions about hygiene etc just because Vanessa isn't wearing 80 pounds worth of hair and makeup. Goes to show how many males are in the comments, since those things = woman to so many of them. If you're reading this Vanessa, I know you have a thick skin already, but there is nothing wrong with the way you look. Nothing masculine, nothing ugly. You look and sound authentic and intelligent and it's one of the reasons I admire you so much.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 37 points (+37|-0)

It's the same predictable shit they did to Magdelen Burns, too. A TRA friend of mine was mocking her appearances, saying she looked like a guy. She was fucking hot. Men just try to insult women the same way they're insulted. Small little Testosterone-rex walnut brains.

[–] sylviasmushrooms 29 points (+29|-0) Edited

Magdalen deserved so much better. She had lovely and sharply intelligent facial features, she looked like something fae.

All women are born knowing that beauty is fleeting. We have it for a few years, the men who want to have sex with us run the gamut between simp and prick, and then we're expected to become mothers, and then (whether or not we become mothers), we're crones and therefore invisible or a nuisance. TRAs are obsessed with the narrowest and tenderest part of a woman's life. The fantasy is youth, naivety, fragility and admiration, but that bloom isn't permanent for natal women. Do they think it can last forever for a man on a punishing and life-shortening hormone regime? Best case is Samantha Lux, who will spend his entire life suffering the effects of hormones that still don't make him female. Worst case is someone like "Gamestop Ma'am" who is actually terrifying and unhinged and treating a mental illness in an equally terrifying and unhinged way.

[–] MeNsTrUaToR27 3 points (+6|-3) Edited

Do they think it can last forever for a man on a punishing and life-shortening hormone regime?

All women are born knowing that beauty is fleeting.

Yep, but these millennial and older gen Z TiMs have been socialized as male. Pair this with their narcissism, and they have no safety net for their self esteem when they get old. For some reason these assholes think theyre immune to The Wall. The men in their lives fetishize youth just as much as they do. I have a feeling they won't be prepared for the influx of very attractive, very passable trans girls who've been guzzling puberty blockers and estrogen since they were nine (thanks to their own activism). Prepare to see a bunch of them detransing and hysterically speaking out against puberty blockers and child sex changes, because they can't sexually compete with the T-Babe model 2035. You love to see it

[–] Xact [OP] 35 points (+35|-0) Edited

You know what's actually funny about it? Vanessa looks like she isn't wearing a stitch of makeup, something absolutely fucking unheard of on social media among women, yet still looks naturally beautiful. Seeing the clips back and forth between Vanessa's pretty face and "Samantha's" heavy drag makeup on a still visibly male face at his very ultimate peak attractiveness (hair done, nails done, surgery, fake lashes, feminine clothes, pounds of stage makeup) only highlighted just how attractive Vanessa literally is. They hate us cuz they ain't us. Meanwhile, "Samantha's" followers have to boldface lie...like "allies" usually do to keep up the facade for the delusion of men..."no, no,...I swear, how do you manage to be so pretty? You're prettier than me and I'm "cis""...and it will be some non-transitioned, wide jaw, wide shouldered, 6'5 giant man. 😂 They'll tell a TiM anything...the lies are actually heartless AF!

[–] sylviasmushrooms 23 points (+23|-0)

I didn't want to comment directly on Vanessa's appearance with qualifiers since she is such a radfem queen, I don't know if she would care if people thought she was pretty, or even if she might take offense.

That being said, I do think she's very beautiful. On a level that's skin deep, and much deeper.

[–] Xact [OP] 12 points (+12|-0)

Right, we shouldn't even have to go there, but I just find the irony worth mentioning. She is beautiful, and they know it, so they intentionally attempt to gaslight and lie to her, as they usually do to attractive women.

[–] MeNsTrUaToR27 6 points (+6|-0)

I said I could tell she was female without her needing plastic surgery 😂

[–] MakeThatDough 6 points (+6|-0)

they lie because they're scared of being brutalized by men, rightfully so, they've always fucked with us since childhood so...

[–] Lawful 26 points (+26|-0)

That shows so much, doesn't it? We're women no matter how we look, but all they have is superficial, so they try to make themselves feel better by calling us ugly. Either that or they've genuinely convinced themselves that femininity is all there is to womanhood.

[–] sylviasmushrooms 24 points (+24|-0)

It shows and says everything. It's breathtaking how the second there's a woke-sanctioned reason to go on a witch hunt, all that aggression, anger, and hatred pours out. Same product, same factory and destination, just a different brand name.

The envy that men have towards women (or what they imagine women to be) is also breathtaking. The fantasy is that women never have to work for anything, that their lives are being admired and praised for their beauty while people line up to fuck them (basically a narcissistic man's wet dream), and that the things only women can do, that make them essential to propagate life itself, is something they have any hope of seizing for themselves along with all the profound power that comes with it.

Womb transplants. Right. We'll have brain transplants before a natal male gets pregnant and carries a baby to term, and they can die mad about it.

[–] Srfthrowaway 13 points (+13|-0)

Between her and Karen Davies, neither of whom are showing us a made up face, it becomes jarring seeing Samantha so made up.

True! It's almost as if they're making up for their vagina envy by bringing down us for not obeying what a male gaze centered beauty industry wants us to do.

[–] wack 4 points (+4|-0)

ugh true! I think the only reason I noticed this other thing is because Vanessa showed clips and then switched to herself but "Samantha Lux" Mr. Lux's video is sped up just slightly to make his hand gestures seem more "natural" or like the Kardashians and I bet being sped up only helps him with his imitation of what he thinks a womans voice would sound like.

[–] yesisaiditxx 3 points (+3|-0)

One comment even said you’re pretty not gonna lie but you’re ugly inside or something like that. It made me laugh because, yeah, not to even need to go there...but she is pretty?

[–] Eriomra 40 points (+40|-0)

One of the comment, talking about the video: « I’m sorry but this is cyber bullying ». THE IRONY, DO THEY NOT SEE IT??

The way she is attacked is appalling. How can they truly think they’re the good guys here? I’m following her and I’m grateful she dares speaking out, especially with all the abuse she is getting, even though I don’t always agree with the points she makes.

[–] Xact [OP] 34 points (+34|-0)

Make sure you like and subscribe and comment on this video and her other videos as well. These people are mass reporting to get the videos taken down...it's all they know how to do. They aren't capable of constructing arguments against women protecting their own identity, so they have to gaslight and abuse and threaten.

[–] lucretiamott 18 points (+18|-0)

It's the same shit all cults do. Banning information that goes against their fantasy narrative. Mormons, scientologists, Hasidim all do it. The only way to keep people loyal is to deny them factual information about the world.

[–] Eriomra 11 points (+11|-0)

You are right! I hope YouTube won’t delete her account, but I’m not too optimistic. 🙁

[–] Weird_Maybe 22 points (+22|-0)

I've downloaded all of her GC videos just in case. It's about 1GB total so it shouldn't be too hard to distribute.

[–] Riothamus 39 points (+39|-0)

Just marvel at the differences in spelling, grammar, and tone between the GC side and the TRA side. Half of the TRA side comes across as violent and barely literate.

Are TIMs the absolute dumbest fucking people on the planet?

[–] Weird_Maybe 19 points (+19|-0)

Obviously, otherwise they wouldn't buy any of this nonsense :P

Well, a lot of TRAs are illiterate because they choose to be keyboard warriors instead of picking up a book that's not young Adult fiction or horribly written fan fiction or use tumblr grammar.

[–] bellatrixbells 4 points (+4|-0)

And half of them are telling Vanessa to go "educate" herself, go back to school and whatnot because she has no place talking about biology as a photographer.

Like, half of those look like high school kids or dropouts. I'd be surprised if any one of them had any sort of academic background in psychology, biology, sociology or any relevant discipline.

[–] yesisaiditxx 2 points (+2|-0)

Despite everyone calling her embarrassing I found how frequent THE FOLLOWING happened embarrassing given the context at hand...

So, guess, almost every time I’ve seen someone write “women” when they mean “woman” it was....a man. shock

You can’t even distinguish between woman and women and you’re harassing a woman over YouTube that TWAW. Lol

[–] Nurvilya 36 points (+36|-0)

Samantha Lux looks like James Charles with boobs attached. A man in make up. How brave and stunning.

[–] delicate_silicate 36 points (+36|-0)

He bases his feminine aesthetic on porn stars and barbie dolls, it's obvious. Lots of comments saying "how can you misgender someone so pretty?!" As if beauty is what defines a woman.

[–] Riothamus 16 points (+16|-0) Edited

He grows his hair long to obscure his man shoulders. They extend far past his hips.

He's a skinny inverted triangle with breast implants.

[–] MeNsTrUaToR27 12 points (+12|-0)

Oh that's SO what they believe. I see it all the time on Tik Tok "How can this ugly TERF tell me I'm not a woman when I'm hot?!" So you believe being ugly makes you less of a woman, like every other dude. How typical

[–] bellatrixbells 2 points (+2|-0)

Also, "ugly". By what standards is Vanessa "ugly" and Sam "pretty" ?

He's not particularly good looking, and she's not particularly bad looking. The only difference is he wears a shitton of makeup and has had surgery. If that's what you're into, that's okay, but that doesn't hold much value to someone who just doesn't care about these things.

[–] Carthimundia 5 points (+5|-0)

Also, someone has to tell these men that the way they act comes across more like a bitchy drag queen than an actual woman. The constant hair flips, hand flapping, head bobs, sassy little asides- it doesn’t read “woman” to me, it reads femininised male. Think my absolutely fave bit of the video is how appalled he is that someone has the audacity to call him “he.”

[–] MelMarieCurebee 21 points (+21|-0) Edited

Hey everybody, I reported the video by Samantha as bullying/hateful. It led to a bullying campaign against Vanessa, ergo, it was bullying. Vanessa's not so much.

Here's the video: https://youtu.be/lU8OhPkE2CE

Here's what I said in my report.

This video calls Vanessa Vokey, another YouTuber, a transphobe and a TERF (terf is a misogynistic slur, which is usually accompanied by threats of rape and murder, sexual harassment, etc). What followed was predictable. Follwers of Samantha's channel went to Vannessa's to threaten her, using misogynistic slurs like "bitch" and "terf", and have been mass reporting it in order to get it taken down. Vanessa's original video caused no such brigading of Samantha's videos. The proof is in the pudding - Samantha's video is bullying, and Vanessa's was not.

Edit - that last bit after the dash wasn't included because I ran out of characters.

[–] crodish 18 points (+18|-0)

Vanessa's original video caused no such brigading of Samantha's videos.

This. You can really tell who are the bullies from their actions alone.

[–] Srfthrowaway 5 points (+5|-0)

Thank you! I'll use your script (if that's ok) to do the same thing.

[–] MelMarieCurebee 6 points (+6|-0)

Maybe tweak it a little so they don't think I have multiple accounts! But otherwise feel free to use something similar.

[–] nemesis 19 points (+19|-0)

Seeing 11-year-old children throwing hate towards this woman is horrendous. It's a full out cult. Eventually these commenters will peak but it'll probably be too late by then.

[–] pennygadget 18 points (+18|-0)

I love how the flying monkeys keep saying, "EWWW!! WhY arE U oBseSSeD wiTH a StrAnGer'S, GeNiTaLs, YoU FREAK!?"

If Lux doesn't want people discussing his genitalia, maybe he shouldn't make YouTube videos detailing his genital surgeries and promoting them to his sycophantic young fanbase! I don't want people discussing my intimate medical history. So I keep that stuff private! It isn't hard.

[–] naiiad-bee 18 points (+18|-0)

is she on spinster or here on ovarit? i've been subscribed for a while, left a supportive comment, but i wish i could message her directly away from all that vile to show my support too.

[–] kalina 17 points (+17|-0)

I debated a bit with a TRA on that video and eventually youtube would just delete everything I wrote on that video. Even though they didnt contain any slurs or swear words or whatever. Shortly after I'd written the comment it would just vanish. Weird how that happens.

[–] Xact [OP] 14 points (+14|-0)

Yeah, I did a post a while back about Youtube's censorship, which includes automatically deleting any phrases that the algorithim detects as common radical feminist language. My suggestion would be to avoid using any common phrases like "trans women are men" and when you use the word "transgender", try to avoid using any controversial keywords like "rape". On youtube, I always copy my comments and then refresh the video 3 times to make sure the comment posted, and if it didn't I paste my comment again and attempt to explain out things as much as possible to avoid any controversial keywords. You can also break your replies up into multiple comments and then post it, which also helps.

[–] Riothamus 11 points (+11|-0) Edited

Many times that happened because the user you were talking to took down his own comment. They couldn't handle the ownage.

Wait- were you the person who triggered that Alexander Bracken narcissist into sending his goddamned CV to a complete stranger over the internet? That was a fun comment thread that got deleted.

[–] kalina 9 points (+9|-0)

no, they all stayed up. i replied to various comments that are all still there. but thats not the first time i noticed youtube just silently removing my comments even if i wrote completely harmless stuff

[–] lucretiamott 8 points (+8|-0) Edited

yep they've been doing this to me on other feminist videos. I may be overthinking this, but it appears once a creator gets flagged as a feminist, their comments get limited.

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