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For me I thought up about something like this : " Well phalluses can be responsible for pregnancies and pregnancies fucking hurt and can kill people who can get pregnant so I think people who can get pregnant should have the right to want to stay away from the people who can impregnate them! "

Also : " Once upon a time in a not so distant past and even in some places in the present world today people who were born with certain body parts that can be used to forcibly penetrate and impregnate people who were born with different body parts than them decided to be very big meanies to the people who can get pregnant...

They denied basic human rights to anyone who they believed had the ability to get pregnant, othered them in many languages and cultures, denied them education, made myths and created many religions that preach the inferiority of people who can get pregnant and made people who can get pregnant believe they were created from a bone from the people who can impregnate them and made the people who can get pregnant feel like they are inferior even thought the people who can impregnate would not exist at all if it wasn't for the people who can get pregnant!

They would also sometimes forcibly penetrate and impregnate the people who can get pregnant and used them as baby factories to increase the lineage of the people who can impregnate and didn't even let the people who gave birth to the babies even pass on things like surnames to the very child that came out of their own bodies can you imagine all that? O_O

Eventually after so many millennias of abuse and mistreatment of these types ressentiment started building up and the people who can get pregnant started fighting back and so here we are today folks!

And this is why people who were born with body parts that are by default assumed to be able to get get pregnant ( even though not everyone with these body parts can get pregnant mind you ) want to stay away from people who were born with the body parts that can impregnate them ( even though not everyone who was born with these body parts can impregnate the people who can get pregnant but the people who can get pregnant can't know for sure which people with these body parts can impregnate them or not so they prefer to stay away just in case because pregnancies hurt and can kill too! Shocking no? O_O "

What do you think of my ideas? Feel free to share some ideas of gender neutral ways of explaining Feminist ideas to people and why women should have the right to stay away from blokes!

Use your creativity! :)

For me I thought up about something like this : " Well phalluses can be responsible for pregnancies and pregnancies fucking hurt and can kill people who can get pregnant so I think people who can get pregnant should have the right to want to stay away from the people who can impregnate them! " Also : " Once upon a time in a not so distant past and even in some places in the present world today people who were born with certain body parts that can be used to forcibly penetrate and impregnate people who were born with different body parts than them decided to be very big meanies to the people who can get pregnant... They denied basic human rights to anyone who they believed had the ability to get pregnant, othered them in many languages and cultures, denied them education, made myths and created many religions that preach the inferiority of people who can get pregnant and made people who can get pregnant believe they were created from a bone from the people who can impregnate them and made the people who can get pregnant feel like they are inferior even thought the people who can impregnate would not exist at all if it wasn't for the people who can get pregnant! They would also sometimes forcibly penetrate and impregnate the people who can get pregnant and used them as baby factories to increase the lineage of the people who can impregnate and didn't even let the people who gave birth to the babies even pass on things like surnames to the very child that came out of their own bodies can you imagine all that? O_O Eventually after so many millennias of abuse and mistreatment of these types ressentiment started building up and the people who can get pregnant started fighting back and so here we are today folks! And this is why people who were born with body parts that are by default assumed to be able to get get pregnant ( even though not everyone with these body parts can get pregnant mind you ) want to stay away from people who were born with the body parts that can impregnate them ( even though not everyone who was born with these body parts can impregnate the people who can get pregnant but the people who can get pregnant can't know for sure which people with these body parts can impregnate them or not so they prefer to stay away just in case because pregnancies hurt and can kill too! Shocking no? O_O " What do you think of my ideas? Feel free to share some ideas of gender neutral ways of explaining Feminist ideas to people and why women should have the right to stay away from blokes! Use your creativity! :)

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[–] ProxyMusic 4 points Edited

They denied basic human rights to anyone who they believed had the ability to get pregnant, othered them in many languages and cultures, denied them education, made myths and created many religions that preach the inferiority of people who can get pregnant and made people who can get pregnant believe they were created from a bone from the people who can impregnate them and made the people who can get pregnant feel like they are inferior even thought the people who can impregnate would not exist at all if it wasn't for the people who can get pregnant!

They would also sometimes forcibly penetrate and impregnate the people who can get pregnant and used them as baby factories to increase the lineage of the people who can impregnate and didn't even let the people who gave birth to the babies even pass on things like surnames to the very child that came out of their own bodies can you imagine all that? O_O

Unfortunately, this wording and framing gives the misleading impression that men oppress girls and women solely/mainly in order to cause pregnancies. And it makes it seem that throughout history, sex discrimination, denial of human rights and misogynistic prejudice only applied to girls and women in the phase of life between menarche and menopause, or peri-menopause. As though only women perceived to be in the "childbearing years" have historically gotten a raw deal.

It's simply not the case that the main/primary reason men historically have discriminated against, oppressed, sought to control, and devised a whole bunch of misogynistic beliefs about female humans is because men and teenage boys value our capacity to get pregnant and have children most of all. Men and older boys want control and dominion over women and girls, and they created and perpetuated misogyny, so they can have access to female bodies whenever they want - and as much as they want - for their own sexual pleasure.

Men didn't invent and continue the longstanding institutions and customs of female sex slavery, harems, brothels, forced prostitution, sex trafficking, pornography, mass rapes in warfare, sex crimes against women and girls, polygamy, concubinage, male infidelity, orgies, strip clubs, sex clubs, child sex abuse, "corrective rape" of lesbians, keeping "mistresses" on the side when married and so on because they wanted to use woman and girls as baby factories. They did and do all this in the quest for male sexual pleasure.

Most of the time men fuck women, or are trying to fuck women, they are acting out of a host of emotional, psychological and physical drives and most of all they are seeking the set of pleasurable physical sensations that result in male orgasm along - they're NOT trying to sire children. The vast majority of times in men's and boys lives that they feel the desire and urge to penetrate a girl or woman with their penises, starting a pregnancy is the last thing in the world they are after.

If impregnation was what men and boys were always after, then they wouldn't have much or any interest in blow jobs, anal sex, fingering, cunnilingus and other sex acts with women and girls that can't lead to pregnancy - and men wouldn't have invented so many different forms of contraception. Male pedophilia, sexualization of children, and male sex abuse of babies and pre-pubescent children wouldn't be nearly as common as they are, either.

[–] Femina [OP] 2 points Edited

Yeah although it is also true that women get exploited for reproductive labor too which is something that only we can do... Males often do use women to create more human resources in many cultures...

I heard that one of the main reasons why women were not conscripted for war in many cultures though history was because they knew they would need a good amount of the female population left if they wanted to replenish their numbers after the war...

Males sometimes kidnapped women from enemy nations when they didn't have enough women in their own nation like the Ancient Romans were said to have done with the Sabine women for example using them to increase Rome's population...

I like to just make it about biology and say "there are consequences to being born in a female body." And then I go on to say that those consequences include menstruation, pregnancy (planned or unplanned), childbirth, male violence such as sexual assault and rape and other forms of violence and so on. People really can't argue that female bodies are different from male bodies. They all know they came out of a female body. And expounding to include the social consequences of being born in a female body is also helpful such as 'which fetuses are aborted because they are unwanted, males or females? Who is not allowed to attend school in some societies, boys or girls? Who is subjected to compulsory burqa and hijab, males or females? Who is subjected to female genital mutilation, males or females?' Our oppression is based on our biology. No one has been able to come up with a counter argument to this approach yet.

What do you mean by gender neutral? This just looks like dehumanizing TRA baby-talk language to avoid using sex-based words.

[–] Femina [OP] 2 points Edited

Well I tried translating Feminism into a language that anyone can understand including wokesters... Plus many wokesters ARE indeed very young like teenagers and others are not so young but still immature so I tried speaking their language... I may turn this into a comic sometime when I have more free time...

women should have the right to stay away from blokes!

Simply music to my ears. I like it all

I say that penises are used as weapons against women.

As you said, they can literally kill us. We shouldn’t be forced to shower with them.

If you find a sufficiently masculine/rightoid male, you can usually trick him into accepting feminism by highlighting biological realities he's definitely already aware of (murder, violence and rape statistics) and convince them its their manly duty to uphold the rights of women everywhere.

Slip the fempill into cheese for them. Makes it easier to go down.

[–] BlackCirce 🔮🐖🐖🐖 4 points

haha the title alone made me almost throw my phone across the room 😭

I checked this hilarious book out from the library when I was a teenager. it could never be published today but you might find some inspiration...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politically_Correct_Bedtime_Stories

How about simply: "It's called male supremacy for a reason."

Yeah but these people do not even understand the meaning of the word " male " and " female " anymore considering they think TIMs are " female " ... It is not just the word " woman " that they want after all... The word " female " is also being taken! Terms like " MTF " are good examples of this...

I think the fact that the people you're speaking of and trying to reach don't understand the meaning of the words "male" and "female" just adds to the many reasons why we on the side of reason, science and clarity need to keep using them. Far better to model proper use of precise, clear language than to stoop to their level of confusion, obfuscation and gibberish.

Yes, they're trying to take the word "female" too. Failing to keep using the word ourselves just makes it easier for them to steal it and strip it of its meaning.

Are you sure they don't understand the meanings of those words? My impression is that they are committed to a politically motivated redefinition, but that they still understand the original words and often slip up and use them in the original ways because the new definitions are often useless. ETA I honestly think plain English is the way to go.