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For those who aren't familiar with him, Dr. Grande is a counselor who discusses various psychological subjects on Youtube. Today, he released a video on Rachel Dolezal in which he gave an overview of her personal background, her larping as a black woman, and the public's response to said larping. He alse compares her claims of being transracial to claims people make about being transgender and points out the logical inconsistency in supporting transgenderism while also condeming transracialism. It's a small thing, but it's nice to see someone with a sizeable platform broach the subject.

For those who aren't familiar with him, Dr. Grande is a counselor who discusses various psychological subjects on Youtube. Today, he released a video on Rachel Dolezal in which he gave an overview of her personal background, her larping as a black woman, and the public's response to said larping. He alse compares her claims of being transracial to claims people make about being transgender and points out the logical inconsistency in supporting transgenderism while also condeming transracialism. It's a small thing, but it's nice to see someone with a sizeable platform broach the subject.

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Honestly, that comparison (between transracialism and transgenderism) was what really pushed me over the edge from passively "just be kind" trans supporter to full on peaking. Because goddamn is that a striking comparison. Rachel Dolezal and "Kaitlyn" Jenner both "came out" around the same time. It was so bizarre to see one get publicly ridiculed by every academic and activist and journalist and the other get celebrated and made "Woman of the Year."

Because if you think about it for even a moment, it is just as insulting and pathetic for a man who benefited from every male privilege imaginable to suddenly declare himself a woman in his middle age. Why? What makes "Kaitlyn" a woman and not just some delusional larper like Rachel? Both are people in an oppressor group taking on the identity and putting on a cheap costume to resemble an oppressed group and then claiming they speak for that group.

I'd really like to know what the TRA answer is to the transracialism/transgenderism question, because the strategy I've seen is that they totally go nuclear and shut down anyone who even breathes a word about arguing it.

[–] bluff 12 points Edited

They don't have an argument. That's just DIFFERENT! And when they do have an argument, it boils down to women aren't an oppressed class so who gives a shit if men pretend to be them. 🙄

"Gender is a social construct, but race is real" is the nonsense argument that I heard.

[–] DonnaFemina 2 points Edited

"Gender is a social construct, but race is real" is the nonsense argument that I heard.

That is such a steaming pile of absolute bullshit. RACE is very arguably, very plausibly a social construct.

Unlike sex, race cannot be reliably seen in DNA (you can see African or Persian or Indian or Mexican origin in DNA, but you can't see "oh this person definitely LOOKS African/Persian/etc.").

Unlike sex, race is defined differently from one culture to another.

Every culture has a category for people who look like they can probably give birth (or will be able to when older, or were able to when younger), and another category for people who don't. A few cultures also have defined roles for gender-nonconforming men and/or for gender-nonconforming women, but every single culture on earth has those two sex categories.

But NOT every culture has the same race categories. For instance in the US, traditionally people who are racially mixed have been considered members of the non-white part of their heritage (like Barack Obama, the "first Black president"), while in many other countries, "half-caste" is its own separate category, neither white nor Black (or whatever the other part of the mix is). There are TONS of examples, race is just not the same thing across different cultures.

So to claim that freaking SEX is a social construct while RACE somehow is not just beggars belief.

The stupid thing is that for all the talk of intersex conditions, everyone is still going to ultimately be male or female. However, you can absolutely have different ethnic ancestries. That’s how sites like Ancestry sell DNA tests!

I’m a mix of Norwegian, Finnish, Scottish, French, German, and Cherokee (with a little of multiple other European ancestry mixed in). You can have different racial backgrounds and physical features in a person, but you can’t be 1/4 female. So, why can’t Dolezal identify as black?

[–] no- 5 points

Rachel Dolezal has probably done more for black people than TIMs as a whole have done for women. Unlike TIMs, she’s not on a crusade to destroy the rights of the oppressed group she’s impersonating.

[–] MissBehaved 3 points Edited

Yes what she did was wrong, and in the end she was essentially taking a position away from a Black woman, but at least her activism was in the right place. Also I believe I read somewhere that her adoptive siblings are Black? She seemed to have genuine interest and care for Black people and the issues they face. TIMs never do any activism for women, even though they supposedly are women. I also think the backlash against her was especially because she is a woman. I doubt the vitriol would've been as strong against a man doing the same. Not to mention we've now seen some TIMs identifying as Asian women in recent years (I recall at least two and one guy wearing a hijab despite clearly having no connection to Islam in his life) and I don't think they've faced much, if any, pushback on it.

Whoaa! I've followed this YTr on and off for a couple years and always noticed he stayed far away from trans stuff. Very interesting.

i love dr grandes dead pan take downs and the clear, concise way, he summarises cases and puts them in the context of his understanding of psychology.

i can't remember which academic it was who did the exact same comparison in a paper a few years ago and was villified by the rabid mob. i hope the same doesn't happen to dr grande.

Rebecca Tuvel in the journal Hypatia

[–] GenderHeretic Assigned2LegsAB 3 points

Yes, I remember when that happened. It was incredible. There is even a wikipedia page about the controversy!

What a coincidence! I’ve just discovered him, he has a lot of interesting videos (although I don’t know all the people he’s talking about).

I have a feeling that content producers coming out now with videos and podcasts about transgenderism have been “sitting” on their thoughts for a while, as if waiting for the right moment to take a position. It seems that there’s a lot more stuff about this topic than a year ago… a year ago, when I was forcefully thrust into this world by the sudden transition of a beloved niece😭

The cynic in me is confident that since he’s a man, he’ll be ok.

He's one of the youtubers I regularly watch and I generally enjoy his content. Looking forward to watching this.

He is one of my favorite YouTubers. His calming and no nonsense demeanor is so refreshing. I was ecstatic when I saw he tackled this topic and he did not disappoint.