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I've seen online signs of bathrooms where the woman's bathroom is changed to gender neutral where the men's are not messed with at all. It disgusted me and saddened me but I tried to keep hope that it was photoshopped/faked in some way. (or at the very least so rare and ridiculous that it would be called out and changed quickly)

Yeah....a few nights ago I was going back from a late night drinking and needed to pee and the first place I could go was the toilets at a train station. There were two bathrooms one of them had a sign with the typical male and female black and white stick figures. The ONLY (and I mean truly only) other bathroom had one stick figure of a male and clearly says "Male Toilet"

I searched all around and there was no third toilet I accidentally missed that was female only.

I tried convincing myself this was something so rare it's fake, but it's not and I can't lie to myself anymore. I'm trying tofigure out a way to contact people in charge of the station without outting myself.

I've seen online signs of bathrooms where the woman's bathroom is changed to gender neutral where the men's are not messed with at all. It disgusted me and saddened me but I tried to keep hope that it was photoshopped/faked in some way. (or at the very least so rare and ridiculous that it would be called out and changed quickly) Yeah....a few nights ago I was going back from a late night drinking and needed to pee and the first place I could go was the toilets at a train station. There were two bathrooms one of them had a sign with the typical male and female black and white stick figures. The ONLY (and I mean truly only) other bathroom had one stick figure of a male and clearly says "Male Toilet" I searched all around and there was no third toilet I accidentally missed that was female only. I tried convincing myself this was something so rare it's fake, but it's not and I can't lie to myself anymore. I'm trying tofigure out a way to contact people in charge of the station without outting myself.

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[–] Luckystar 25 points Edited

I've said this before awhile back but I'll say it again. In Saudi Arabia there is strict sex segregation but in practice due to patriarchy all the best things are simply male only. Even fast food restaurants, sporting events, movie theaters etc all tend to have two sections, one for single men and one for "family" (women, children, everybody else-- including men with their wives).

This new """progressive""" take on """gender equality"""" is modeling fucking Saudi Arabia

e: Was looking for a source to better explain what I mean and I found out in the past couple years, Saudi Arabia has changed the laws so the "men"/"family" segregation is no longer legally required though places are still allowed to have that in practice. So yeah, we're actually regressing to WORSE than modern Saudi Arabia. Lol

Yeah, instead of "men" and "non-men," it should be "women" and "non-women." What does it say about our society that we immediately went to the first scheme and not the second?

Which one did you use?

I think I would have used the men's one.

Those are bound to be safer, seeing as the perverts intent on assaulting are going to be in the unisex one ... not that men who really just want to piss at the moment are always safe, but ... if there's any man in the unisex one, you know he's not safe.

Yeah, and if a man gives you any shit just say “i’d use the ladies’ room but that’s where all the perverts are”

I would use the men's too. Get fucked! Bring it home to roost.

[–] ovaryacting Dilatemadaboutit 4 points

I went to a venue that had two gender neutral toilets. People complained and it was changed to one gender neutral and one women's toilet. Not a single woman wanted to use the gender neutral toilet, the queue for the women's was coming out the door.

I posted here when I witnessed the same phenomenon at an airport. It's not theoretical or rare - this is going to be the new normal unless something is done.

Not sure what country OP is from, but someone should make a database every time this happens. Maybe through WoLF or WDI, especially WDI since they're international. I guess it'd be hard to collect that information except through investigations and word of mouth, but the frequency would be interesting to see, to put it one way. It'd also bolster our arguments against TRAs when they say this stuff is not happening.

I'm from Aus, I have seen gender neutral toilets here before but not like this example, although I have seen it online. I agree it would be good to have database of some sort detailing every time this is happening.

Thanks for the information, I may bring it up to some radfem organizations and see what they say. I'll definitely report back!

I guarantee the men's has a urinal and it's not switched to neutral because it actually requires retrofitting for the comfort of all who use it (nobody wants to look at men peeing, men peeing don't generally want to be looked at.)

It's simply an easy "inclusivity" move to switch women's facilities. Involves no thought about the actual needs of actual users.

It actually makes more sense to do it the other way around. Urinals and stalls can be utilized by people of either "gender identity," plus it's most likely quicker than waiting for the women's since the 2-3 stalls in the men's will always most likely be empty. I've heard stories of men's bathrooms being turned gender neutral while women's are kept the same. It's possible to even without construction, just change the sign and whoever wants to use it will use it. Many men's rooms also have urinal partitions

Interesting! I've only ever seen men's toilets with the urinal on immediate display.

Not sure where you are, but I'm in the USA. I've peeked into empty men's rooms from time to time out of curiosity and more often than not see partitions at urinals!

Where was this, if you don't mind the ask

In Australia but I don't feel comfortable saying exactly where sorry to be vague

I just wanted to know the country. No need to be sorry, don't worry I understand! Thank you, and sorry this happened to you to begin with.

Maybe you can submit your story here as well, the woman who started it is also from Australia.

Omg I had no idea this existed! A lot of the stuff I see tends to be from the UK I had no idea there were Aussie organisations already (at the bottom of the page)