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It started with saying you prefer to be referred to with masculine (he/him), feminine (she/her), or neutral (they/them) pronouns. Neopronouns were fringe, made fun of, and rarely given the time of day. And genderists that used neopronouns always listed a conventional pronoun above that people could refer to them with.

The concept of saying you can be referred to with multiple set of pronouns soon gained traction. So someone with she/they listed on their profile meant you could refer to the person with she/her pronouns or they/them pronouns.

But then some genderists got mad that most people only use one set of those she/they pronouns. Suddenly people were required to alternate between the set of pronouns if multiple were listed. So refer to a person as 'she' one day then refer to that same person as 'they' another day.

But that wasn’t enough for some genderists. Soon a rule popped up that if someone had she/they listed, you had to alternate between pronouns within the same paragraph or sentence when referring to the person! It's still fringe, but I've seen people actually go along with this!

Soon the concept of xenogenders gained traction, and neopronouns started showing up a lot more on profiles than in the past. Now some genderspecials only list neopronouns with no conventional pronouns.

And finally the worst of them all, emoji pronouns (Ex: 👽, 👽self). Yeah, you heard right. Which is clearly for the terminally online since emojis can’t be used in speech.

It makes me wonder what's the next pronoun rule and fad for genderism.

It started with saying you prefer to be referred to with masculine (he/him), feminine (she/her), or neutral (they/them) pronouns. Neopronouns were fringe, made fun of, and rarely given the time of day. And genderists that used neopronouns always listed a conventional pronoun above that people could refer to them with. The concept of saying you can be referred to with multiple set of pronouns soon gained traction. So someone with she/they listed on their profile meant you could refer to the person with she/her pronouns or they/them pronouns. But then some genderists got mad that most people only use one set of those she/they pronouns. Suddenly people were required to alternate between the set of pronouns if multiple were listed. So refer to a person as 'she' one day then refer to that same person as 'they' another day. But that wasn’t enough for some genderists. Soon a rule popped up that if someone had she/they listed, you had to alternate between pronouns **within the same paragraph or sentence** when referring to the person! It's still fringe, but I've seen people actually go along with this! Soon the concept of xenogenders gained traction, and neopronouns started showing up a lot more on profiles than in the past. Now some genderspecials only list neopronouns with no conventional pronouns. And finally the worst of them all, emoji pronouns (Ex: 👽, 👽self). Yeah, you heard right. Which is clearly for the terminally online since emojis can’t be used in speech. It makes me wonder what's the next pronoun rule and fad for genderism.

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I never have understood the she/they pronouns. They can be used interchangeably, so how am I supposed to know when to use she and when to use they? Personally, I think most of the pronoun crap is just meant to trip people up so the gender specials can scream TRANSPHOBIC!!! I know I’m not playing the game.

It reminds me of a progressive church service I attended once for a friend’s event, where they alternated “he” and “she” to describe God. Wildly confusing.

The issue is they can't use they, because it would imply there are multiple gods, even in context.

I actually quite like that, having grown up in a deeply patriarchal religion. It’s a different context entirely, as God is unprovable. Whereas humans are mammals and exist in a material reality.

I don't mind from that perspective, it just honestly sounded like they were talking about two different people.

I think the purpose is to signal that "she's not like the other girls, she's a person, so must be treated with respect"

I have a younger female colleague who uses she/they, and it's exactly this.

She knows that she is female and she knows damn well that everyone else can tell she is female. She's not about to give up her make-up or her cute heels, and she knows our workplace is full of normies so nobody is going to read her as "enby" when she's not remotely androgynous.

But she also "doesn't fully identify with femininity," which I guess all the boomer women we work with must do, right? After all, those women are old and boring and talk openly about what it was like trying to have a professional life while raising children in a profession that didn't even allow them to wear slacks to conferences until the 90s.

She needs pronouns to advertise that she has a rich internal life, because she knows damn well that her outward appearance looks like any other woman and of course all of them are just women.

[–] GenderHeretic Assigned2LegsAB 2 points

The purpose is also to trip people up so the gender-haver has an excuse to verbally abuse them (while DARVOing), so it makes sense that the rules keep changing, ensuring no one is able to keep up.

When you give an inch...

[–] OwnLyingEyes 9 points Edited

Exactly this. The BS stops when it stops getting them what they want, but so far they just keep getting pandered to no matter how ridiculous they become, so they keep pushing the envelope for what they can get away with making people do. It's a power trip, and people keep ceding power to them.

[–] Lilith 16 points Edited

I knew a girl who used xe/xir pronouns for the main character in a story. I was trying to be a good ally at the time so I tried reading it but I just couldn't get through it. I barely even got through the first couple paragraphs. There were Xes and Xirs in every sentence. It was completely unreadable.

I just see it as the equivalent of someone identifying as a pokemon. They are pointing out they are developmentally & emotionally delayed in their progress as human beings. No one has time for such childish shit.

This is why I just use correct sex pronouns most of the time, and "they" in a hushed voice if I'm scared I'll face their direct wrath and possible violence. God I hate narcs.

I think the random pronouns are the best way to peak people. I discovered the noun/nounself recently, and LOVED them, especially the drama they create amongst non-binary people. (Quora is hilarious) But seriously, why would xe/xir be okay but not cat/catself? I even wish I had acting skills good enough to pretend my pronouns are cat/catself. But I find it so funny that my job would probably find me out and blame me for "transphobia". Even if, sure, I DO identify as a cat, at least more then I identify with any of the other non-sensical genders. Women doesn't mean anything now, but cat sounds like fun...

I've stopped using alternative pronouns for the most part. I do not have the time or bandwidth to figure it out, and also I don't care to even if I did. If pressed I might use air quotes around a special pronoun or say "that person" "this person" etc.

How do people have the time to spend creating this reality for themselves, policing it, and being upset by newcomers not knowing the "rules"?! It's like watching little kids play pretend games and screech over some twig someone stepped on actually being a house and now it's ruined.

I’ve also seen she/they, but only queer people are allowed to use she.

[–] gentoo 20 points Edited

I frequently see 'my friends can use 'she,' but other people need to use 'they.'' Weird way to draw the boundaries of your clique.

Yeah. People who know I am a gender special may address me using the pronouns for my sex, but people who don't know me and just see a random girl must call me "them" or it's a hate crime.

It's literally asking people for reasons to get into a fight.

At this point, I find it hard to scale ridiculousness anymore. We seem to have reached a point where this simply no longer is possible. I'm rolling my eyes so hard, I'm pretty sure I can see my own brain.

It always reminds me of these scenes from movies where someone lists all the names and titles of another person (like Daenarys and her 20 titles) anytime they meet someone.

I hadn’t heard of this thing with emojis as pronouns in rotation. Being a person of non-anglophone persuasion, I respectfully ask for elucidation on their pronunciation.

Wouldn’t want to cause any upset or frustration🤪

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