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Let’s lay it all out, in plain black and white, for the HDSB Board members since they have a deficiency in reasoning skills: the teacher in question came to school wearing obscene watermelon-sized prosthetic breasts that hang to his navel under spandex tops stretched to capacity showing the protruding nipples in full view of the students (a student population of around 1300–that’s a lot of victims!). This carried on for several days causing enough distress to the students that they took to social media as their only mode of defense to document and expose their abuse.

The prosthetic in question is only something you can buy at a fetish shop that caters to **misogynist perverts (rooted in very misogynistic caricatures of the female body). So, this teacher is wearing porn paraphernalia around students (minors!) who can’t consent to be participants in this sexual act.

This is sexual abuse. Forcing minors to participate in your sexual fetish is sexual abuse!

Since when are fetishes protected expressions of identities?

Furthermore, gaslighting your students that this is something normal is also abuse! You are eroding their boundaries before they even have the power to enforce their own boundaries. This is an abuse of your authority.

Here’s what the Teacher’s Act has to say about dealing with sexual abuse. One of you staff SHOULD have reported this on the first glimpse of this pervert’s fetish on school grounds! Board, one of YOU should have reported this when the school’s staff failed in their job of safeguarding the children. Because YOU are currently acting as temporary GUARDIAN to the student minors during school hours, YOU are a MANDATED reporter.

Ontario College of Teachers Act, 1996, S.O. 1996, c. 12

Orders relating to sexual abuse, child pornography, etc.

30.2(1) If, under section 30, the Discipline Committee finds a member guilty of an act of professional misconduct consisting of or including an act listed in subsection (2) of this section, the Committee shall, in addition to anything else the Committee may do under subsection 30 (5),

(a) make an order requiring that the member be reprimanded by the Committee;

(b) make an interim order directing the Registrar to suspend the member’s certificate of qualification and registration until the Committee makes an order under clause (c); and

(c) make an order directing the Registrar to revoke the member’s certificate of qualification and registration. 2019, c. 3, Sched. 3, s. 14 (1).

Same

(2) The acts of professional misconduct referred to in subsection (1) are the following:

  1. Sexual abuse of a student.

  2. A prohibited act involving child pornography.

  3. A prescribed sexual act. 2019, c. 3, Sched. 3, s. 14 (1).

Interpretation

(3) For greater certainty, nothing in subsections (1) and (2) affects the power of the Discipline Committee to reprimand a member or revoke a member’s certificate under section 30 for committing any other act of professional misconduct. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9.

Statement re impact of sexual abuse

(4) Before making an order under subsection (1) in relation to a finding of sexual abuse, the Discipline Committee shall consider any written statement that has been filed, and any oral statement that has been made to the Committee, describing the impact of the sexual abuse on the student. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9.

Same (5) The statement may be made by the student or by his or her representative. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9.

Same (6) The Discipline Committee shall not consider the statement unless a finding of an act of professional misconduct has been made. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9; 2019, c. 3, Sched. 3, s. 14 (2).

Notice to member (7) When a written statement is filed, the Discipline Committee shall, as soon as possible, have copies of it provided to the member, to his or her counsel and to the College. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9.

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Did you read that, you child predator defenders? The Discipline Committee can’t do anything until one of YOU reports it. When parents release their children to your care, they expect you to SAFEGUARD!

By denying that any wrongdoing has occurred, YOU are enabling and condoning sexual abuse of minors.

Let’s lay it all out, in plain black and white, for the HDSB Board members since they have a deficiency in reasoning skills: the teacher in question came to school wearing obscene watermelon-sized prosthetic breasts that hang to his navel under spandex tops stretched to capacity showing the protruding nipples in full view of the students (**a student population of around 1300–that’s a lot of victims!**). This carried on for several days causing enough distress to the students that they took to social media as their only mode of defense to document and expose their abuse. The prosthetic in question is **only something you can buy at a fetish shop** that caters to **misogynist perverts (rooted in very misogynistic caricatures of the female body). **So, this teacher is wearing porn paraphernalia around students (minors!) who can’t consent to be participants in this sexual act.** This is sexual abuse. Forcing minors to participate in your sexual fetish is sexual abuse! Since when are fetishes protected expressions of identities? Furthermore, gaslighting your students that this is something normal is also abuse! You are eroding their boundaries before they even have the power to enforce their own boundaries. This is an abuse of your authority. Here’s what the Teacher’s Act has to say about dealing with sexual abuse. One of you staff SHOULD have reported this on the first glimpse of this pervert’s fetish on school grounds! Board, one of YOU should have reported this when the school’s staff failed in their job of safeguarding the children. Because YOU are currently acting as temporary GUARDIAN to the student minors during school hours, YOU are a MANDATED reporter. [Ontario College of Teachers Act, 1996, S.O. 1996, c. 12](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/96o12#BK42) **Orders relating to sexual abuse, child pornography, etc.** **30.2**(1) If, under section 30, the Discipline Committee finds a member guilty of an act of **professional misconduct** consisting of or including an act listed in subsection (2) of this section, the Committee shall, in addition to anything else the Committee may do under subsection 30 (5), (a) make an order requiring that the member be reprimanded by the Committee; (b) make an interim order directing the Registrar to suspend the member’s certificate of qualification and registration until the Committee makes an order under clause (c); and (c) make an order directing the Registrar to revoke the member’s certificate of qualification and registration. 2019, c. 3, Sched. 3, s. 14 (1). Same (2) The acts of professional misconduct referred to in subsection (1) are the following: 1. **Sexual abuse of a student.** 2. A prohibited act involving child pornography. 3. A **prescribed sexual act**. 2019, c. 3, Sched. 3, s. 14 (1). Interpretation (3) For greater certainty, nothing in subsections (1) and (2) affects the power of the Discipline Committee to reprimand a member or revoke a member’s certificate under section 30 **for committing any other act of professional misconduct**. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9. Statement re impact of sexual abuse (4) **Before making an order under subsection (1) in relation to a finding of sexual abuse, the Discipline Committee shall consider any written statement that has been filed, and any oral statement that has been made to the Committee, describing the impact of the sexual abuse on the student.** 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9. Same (5) The statement may be made by the student or by his or her representative. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9. Same (6) The Discipline Committee shall not consider the statement unless a finding of an act of professional misconduct has been made. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9; 2019, c. 3, Sched. 3, s. 14 (2). Notice to member (7) When a written statement is filed, the Discipline Committee shall, as soon as possible, have copies of it provided to the member, to his or her counsel and to the College. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9. …… **Did you read that, you child predator defenders? The Discipline Committee can’t do anything until one of YOU reports it. When parents release their children to your care, they expect you to SAFEGUARD!** By denying that any wrongdoing has occurred, YOU are enabling and condoning sexual abuse of minors.

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The entire board should be fired and the teacher arrested.

Completely agree.

And all the teachers who know this is wrong and stay silent anyways, should keep in mind they are carving out their legacy as enablers of child sexual abuse at the very least. Imho the enablers are grooming these children the same way any other predator does.

That’s what the kids you teach will remember you for.

Yes, they should all indeed be fired for following the law!

[–] SecondSkin 10 points Edited

I don’t know Canada’s laws. But in the UK we have plenty conflicting laws on this matter, or that conflict enough to create a grey area where there isn’t precedence yet. I can’t imagine we are the only county with this problem. It’s how Stonewall were able to get ahead of the law and mislead organisations about how the equality act should be implemented. However, taking inaccurate legal advice doesn’t make policy based on this any less illegal.

We also have laws that are expected to take precedence over others. Health and safety laws often do come first. As does safeguarding regulations.

Any school not following safeguarding regulations and meeting their duty of care to children could be liable if they were shown to be deliberately leaving children at risk.

One of the first rules of safeguarding is that everyone is responsible for safeguarding and that they must speak up if they have a concern. If they stay silent about a man using children in his fetish then they are enabling sexual abuse. And if they don’t fight it, they are complicit in grooming these kids. They become part of the system that is intentionally dismantling their boundaries.

Even if that isn’t illegal it should be. And it is certainly immoral. And I’ll bet my life that in 10/20/30 years time when these kids look back that is exactly how they will see it. Because to them all adults are in a position of power over them, and adults responsible for protecting them letting this slide will be seen the exact same fucking way Savile and his enablers are, or how we all look at lobotomy being accepted practice, or worse mainstream political movements throughout history that we look on in horror now.

Anyone trained in safeguarding not actively doing something about this, in the institutions they are paid to safeguard kids, are carving out their place in history. That’s their legacy, holding the door open for the TRAs. That’s not mitigated by the school technically following one law.

"Following the law" is no excuse for inaction. By law, women could not vote. By law, forcing your spouse to sex was not rape. These laws were unjust and were changed because people took action, and did not hide behind 'just following the rules here, mate. Nothing I can do.'

And the school's administrators.

Oh, and they, too, should be fired for following the law!

What law are they following? There is not a law that says employers can't set limits on how employees dress. There is no law saying that employees are allowed to wear sex toys at work. Nobody's following anything, except the fetishist's wants.

[–] Hera 19 points

I'm glad someone is pointing out it's literally a sex toy and not a proper prosthetic. It seems like such a minor detail to some but I think we need to talk about it more, and the site from which he purchased it, as it lays his intent and interests out clear as day with little room for debate.

How do we know this information? It seems rather obvious to me it's fetish gear (I doubt they actually make medical devices of that size) but how did people figure out what site he purchased it from etc?

THey went shopping for breast prosthesis and that's what came up.

I just don’t understand how TIPs get away with behaviors that would get any other teacher fired. Why is the entire world so afraid of them? Why has our language been upended to make a tiny fraction of society happy? Why do they get away with violence and intimidation? It has to be more than being afraid of being called transphobic. I’ve never been a conspiracy nut, but sometimes. . . . . .

[–] SlowCollapse 3 points Edited

Because merely questioning the ideology openly has a not-insignificant chance of getting you not just fired but harassed and bullied by a vicious online mob.

And the ideology no longer has any boundaries, transition has no gatekeepers. Any straight white male can just opt-in and claim to be part of the most oppressed group in the known universe, at risk of genocide, persumably by a TERF superweapon that JK Rowling is constructing in her underground evil villain lair...

The shop teacher/perv in question has been "identifying as a woman" for about a year. How long has he been wearing an unbound wig to the shop room, in violation of safety rules? How long has he been wearing the dress code violating shorts and hentai boobies?

How long has he been escalating?

I'm shocked that we are not hearing complaints from other teachers and staff!! I understand the higher ups defending this are woke crusaders but imagine being a teacher at that school and teaching alongside this fetishistic sideshow. The admins just have scared them real good for every single staff member to be silent about it. If you are in Canada and have a child in their public schools I would recommend contacting your school board or something to show solidarity in being against this kind of behavior.

[–] ManishaMorgan 22 points Edited

Would it be considered a troll op to get this spammed to the school and the relevant educational bodies? I've seen the Be Kinders come together for far less & unjustified causes. I hope I'm not breaking an Ovarit rule by asking, I know calls to action are iffy on certain forums... but I'm just wondering what we can do to help safeguard these children.

I couldn't give a shit less what happens to "Kayla," as long as he's not put in range of children or a school ever again. The children's health and education is paramount, is there anything we can do outreach wise? I feel like this only permeating rightwing circles is a mistake when this SHOULD be a bipartisan issue for the universal left and right, surely?

Is there NO leftie rag that'll pick this up? I want across the broad/political spectrum eyes on it because Oppai-san/Tittenstein is pure peaking material for anyone who sees it and I need it in the eyes of every normie possible.

Why would you spam the school? Why don’t you go after the government that made the law that the school board must follow?

We should spam Cheri DiNovo whose friendship with a completely non-passing TIM is why she's hellbent on demolishing women's rights in Ontario.

[–] SecondSkin 8 points Edited

OP, I’m in the UK so I don’t know Canada’s regulations.

But one of the questions I’d be asking here is: when parents sue the school for sexual abuse/grooming/being complicit in this, or anything related to their rigid defence of this teacher, will the schools insurance pay out? or will the schools lack of safeguarding risk assessment mean the insurance is void and the school/school district have to foot the bill. Because if it’s the latter, they will end some careers to have their scapegoat/recoup some funds.

I have no idea how any of that works. But this is Canada. I’m going to assume that none of these spineless people will be taking any personal financial responsibility for this.

I don’t mean personal financial responsibility.

Schools have to have liability insurance. Here if a school is sued then the insurance would only pay out if the school can prove they’ve fulfilled their statutory safeguarding requirements.

If the parents win, or even if they don’t but the school doesn’t win costs (and the latter is fairly likely in many of these hypotheticals I’d guess) then if insurance has a valid reason to not pay out: no safeguarding risk assessment, no health and safety assessment, maybe no equality impact assessment also, then the school/MAT or local authority would be footing the bill here.

When that happens they will cut jobs to save funds, and if it’s publicly embarrassing for the school they will publicly axe these jobs to scapegoat these people/claim they have sole liability.

That should be a consideration of those publicly arguing this is ok. If they are too cowardly to do what’s right for kids safeguarding, maybe they are motivated by the reality of that consequence.

So, in the end (if it works like the way you say), it will still be the tax dollars meant to fund the school and whatever job position cuts they decide that will go towards the lawsuit if an insurance doesn’t cover it.

So the students will suffer with less funding and less positions to fulfill management/teaching roles . I’m not particularly sympathetic to those losing their jobs though. They don’t deserve to work in education if they don’t understand their primary objective.

It’s just upsetting that they won’t be personally paying for their enabling behaviour.

The school is following the law. The lawsuit will be thrown out most likely as the school is following the law.

There are laws around sexual misconduct in the workplace, and specifically in schools and around minors. These laws are in conflict - but not really - the breast prosthesis is a sex toy. Women don't wear these to work, which is EASILY PROVEN.

They won't do anything. Spineless.

They are following Ontario law. To go against it brings on a ton of issues. And yet the school board is being blamed and not the government that created the law.

It’s a particular interpretation of law (a bit) and policy (mostly) and it will stand until someone pushes back. Substantially more complex than “iTs ThE lAw!?@#$%!”

If people responsible for children’s welfare won’t push back, whom are we expecting to do so, exactly? If we prioritize avoiding “a ton of issues” - and we’re talking about administrators facing hearings, here, not women being imprisoned with rapists - over dealing with this, our society is doomed.

No, there are two laws, one around 'gender expression' and one around sexualized behavior of teachers, who are teaching MINORS especially. Does gender expression including sharing a sex toy with students? It's not possible for ANY MINOR STUDENT TO NOT SEE the breast prosthesis/sex toy. It's not legal, even in Canada, to share sex toys with students.

What next, how about leaving a vibrator on your desk as part of your gender expression? Lawyers are going to shoot this down. I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a human rights issue at play here as well. Grooming, etc.

Leave it on your desk? What if your gender expression requires that you masturbate in public?

(Only partly sarcastic, that’s barely more outrageous than some TIM nonsense we’re already being told to accept.)

Same problem Wi Spa had. California has a gender law that effectively forbids single sex spaces which the Spa felt they had to follow. As a result of the inclusion intrusion, the man committed a different crime (indecent exposure) of which he had previously been convicted. The establishment was at a lose-lose due to contradictory laws in place.

Funny how all of these "transgender" """rights""" laws in practice end up legalizing sex crimes.

Same (5) The statement may be made by the student or by his or her representative. 2016, c. 24, Sched. 2, s. 9

The point is that it should never have come to this with something like this which is so blatantly out in the open. This puts the burden on the student (who is already in a power imbalance situation and currently being gaslit by the authority) who may not feel confident in their parents to handle it. Furthermore, the parent may not know about this avenue of complaining. The common people to complain at are the principal and the school board. And if they didn’t report the parent’s complaints further, then the inquisition people won’t know to act.

I agree it should never have come to this. But you just need ONE student, or student's parents, to say the hell with this. In the US parents are coming to school board meetings and letting their feelings be known, AND SUING. It just takes one. It's a sex toy being brought to work.

I doubt that most of the school board staff actually think this ok. They think it’s the path of least resistance. They’re terrified of Yaniv-style frivolous litigation plaguing them.

The answer in part is to make them more scared of parents and students suing in civil courts and repeated requests to the police to investigate and lay charges for sexual misconduct around a minor. Then the path of least resistance will become telling Lemieux to keep his kink at home.

I firmly believe more bureaucratic droids are not evil (nor particularly good); they are lazy. We collectively need to make it clear that they will have less paperwork and less stress in their work lives if they stop putting up with this nonsense. Too many years of people #BeingKind has taught then that the route to less stress is constantly caving to the TRAs.

I don’t know if you saw the video earlier but the only person who showed up to protest was the ex-student who was friends with a bunch of people inside. I hope there’s at least one parent who isn’t apathetic to fight for their kid and sue.

[–] KissMyOvaries -1 points Edited

Why doesn’t anyone here understand that the board is following the law? Everyone is getting pissed off at the board and not the government that makes the laws that the board must follow. You made this huge post and yet it’s clear that you and others making posts on this issue don’t even Understand basic mechanisms at play.

I find your multiple "following the law" posts to be bizarre and unhelpful. Why in the world would you think that people here don't understand? The whole point of this post is to outline real rules that these teachers and administrators are bound by. If the man involved were simply wearing a skirt and a wig, it sounds like he would protected under the laws you refer to (the human rights act, I assume?). But, by pointing out that there is, quite obviously, more at play here, we highlight every teacher's and administrator's duty to keep these students safe - not only something that they should do, but something that they must do as mandated reporters. OP is arguing the reasonable viewpoint that these people are, in fact, breaking the law. For all we know, there might be teachers, etc., involved who would be relieved to be presented with a valid avenue for action.

Even if this were a matter of something that is more clearly covered under the human rights act, there is no reason not to let your opinions be known to the school and board. After all, the board is "the government" to a certain degree. They are all government employees, the trustees are elected. Lecce has lots of different things taking his attention, but I bet the director of the HDSB has just the one today. That dude has Lecce's ear and will let it be known if the board and its teachers can't do their jobs because of this controversy.

I'm quite grateful that people are thinking about different ways to combat this situation. Perhaps you have a different idea involving the "government"? Who do you suggest, specifically, the best target might be? Lecce? Ford? Individual MPPs? That is not meant to be a snarky question, but a serious invitation for you to explain what you think would be the best course of action.

Yeah, “the law” is a tad bit more complex than the poster seems to grasp. (If the interpretation of “the law” were so straightforward that any internet poster could give clear answers, we wouldn’t need lawyers nor judges, would we?)

Additionally, and Americans are the worst for not grasping this, there is a huge difference between law and policy. Much of Canadian and Ontario Human Rights Tribunal workings is governed by policy, not law, partly because it’s so stupid even a Canadian legislative assembly wouldn’t pass it.

They're not following the law. There is no law that says bringing in porn prosthesis is protected. There IS a law, however, regarding sexualized behavior around minors in a school setting. Isn't that what was posted here?

Because laws are subject to interpretation, especially when they are written as vaguely as that ridiculous law. How everyone interpreted gender expression was the right for a man to wear a skirt, a padded bra (or get a boob job), makeup, and a wig. His fetish gear don’t fall into what people were picturing when they crafted that law.

We’re about to see in practice if the lawmakers will still abide by what they said before about how to interpret their words.

"Gender" is not inclusive of "sexualized behavior" - and donning a breast prosthesis created as a "sex toy" does not fall under gender expression, BECAUSE there are already laws on the books about sexual misconduct upon the part of teachers.

Yes, that's it - a breast prosthesis of this kind is a sex toy!

Even if their cowardice is due to fear of not following the law (vs. the standard normie fear of TIPs going to war with them over common sense boundaries), they could say so rather than regurgitate the "inclusion" bullshit.

Yes, I’d have much more respect for the school if they issued a terse “in accordance with our school board’s legal advice, we are not suspending Ms. Titty-McGee,” rather than the #BeKind bullshit.