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Hello everyone,

Recently I was informed that I was disruptive and cavalier with the rules and best practices, during discussions of the KF saga. It was never my intent to do so. I greatly value access to this circle and this community, and do not want to be cut off. I sincerely apologize for any trouble that I may have caused to this circle or the broader site as a whole. I am therefore trying to avoid the KF subject from now on in hopes that I don't get in trouble again.

Having gotten that off my chest, I have to say this: While KF made me hotheaded and reckless, WPATH 8.0... has completely broken me and filled me with overwhelming despair. Over the weekend I caught wind of the new so-called "standards of care," and I have been sobbing on and off for the past three days because of it. This whole world just feels so broken and I don't understand how so many people can pretend like the molestation and mutilation of children masquerading as "healthcare" is not only acceptable, but something to be celebrated and encouraged in the name of "progress." I have reached a point where I think we would have been better off all dying in a nuclear war vs. the communists during the '60s, instead of letting the long march of the (mental) institutions take root in the aftermath.

The "eunuch" chapter was written by a sick SOB who actually wrote an article for the Washington Shitpost recommending that ISIS should make eunuchs of their prisoners instead of executing them outright. Now his mission is to make bacha bazi a thing in the West. (And of course his weirdo colleague taught at Dal and later UBC -- not to mention, WPATH's conference was held in Montreal -- what the hell is in the water in Canada?!?) Why is Jeff Bozo in particular so concerned with this issue (publishing this creep's op-ed, the elevation of Taylor Lorenz as the Internet's crybully top cop, the de-listing of GC books from Amazon)? What's on his hard drive? Something tells me it wasn't just the cheating that caused Mackenzie to dump his ass.

But even more gut-wrenching are the implications of how WPATH also removed the minimum age requirements for hormones and butchery, and that tells me only one thing: they are accelerating the push to fully and completely normalize the removal of age-of-consent laws. TRAs consider it "gatekeeping". And I just feel so despondent in the face of all this. This is NAMBLA with credentials and institutional protections. They are hurting children in plain sight and now it's in black and white. They have branded themselves not only above the law, but protected by it. And that's what's made me be unable to stop crying the past three days. The in-your-face arrogance of it all. "We can do this, it is happening, and it is good and pleasurable and there is nothing you can do about it."

Babies. I just can't stop crying about what's happening to babies. That line from Alito in the Dobbs commentary (or someone he referenced) keeps going through my head: "domestic supply of infants". The right wants us to bear the children that the left will brainwash, butcher, and poison with their engineered "consent" as precedent for legalizing sex with them. Pedophiles run our world and everything in it. Pedophiles.

I have no faith in anything anymore. I tried doing other things to take my mind off of it but it hasn't helped. We got an offer in the mail for a Sirius XM trial, and I welled up because of all I know now about Martin Rothblatt. I felt such a sense of satisfaction running it through the paper shredder. But it didn't last. It's probably the autistic obsessiveness, but I simply can't take my mind off WPATH and what it means.

How, after seeing that which cannot be unseen, does one keep from being overcome with a depressive death drive that involves so much crying as to literally cause the body to buckle in abdominal pain? 😱😭

Hello everyone, Recently I was informed that I was disruptive and cavalier with the rules and best practices, during discussions of the KF saga. It was never my intent to do so. I greatly value access to this circle and this community, and do not want to be cut off. I sincerely apologize for any trouble that I may have caused to this circle or the broader site as a whole. I am therefore trying to avoid the KF subject from now on in hopes that I don't get in trouble again. Having gotten that off my chest, I have to say this: While KF made me hotheaded and reckless, WPATH 8.0... *has completely broken me and filled me with overwhelming despair*. Over the weekend I caught wind of the new so-called "standards of care," and I have been sobbing on and off for the past three days because of it. This whole world just feels so broken and I don't understand how so many people can pretend like the molestation and mutilation of ***children*** masquerading as "healthcare" is not only acceptable, but something to be celebrated and encouraged in the name of "progress." I have reached a point where I think we would have been better off all dying in a nuclear war vs. the communists during the '60s, instead of letting the long march of the (mental) institutions take root in the aftermath. The "eunuch" chapter was written by a sick SOB who actually wrote an article for the Washington Shitpost recommending that ISIS should make eunuchs of their prisoners instead of executing them outright. Now his mission is to make bacha bazi a thing in the West. (And of course his weirdo colleague taught at Dal and later UBC -- not to mention, WPATH's conference was held in Montreal -- what the hell is in the water in Canada?!?) Why is Jeff Bozo in particular so concerned with this issue (publishing this creep's op-ed, the elevation of Taylor Lorenz as the Internet's crybully top cop, the de-listing of GC books from Amazon)? *What's on his hard drive*? Something tells me it wasn't just the cheating that caused Mackenzie to dump his ass. But even more gut-wrenching are the implications of how WPATH also *removed the minimum age requirements* for hormones and butchery, and that tells me only one thing: they are accelerating the push to fully and *completely normalize the removal of age-of-consent laws*. TRAs consider it "gatekeeping". And I just feel so despondent in the face of all this. This is NAMBLA with credentials and institutional protections. *They are hurting children in plain sight* and *now it's in black and white*. They have branded themselves not only above the law, but protected by it. And that's what's made me be unable to stop crying the past three days. The in-your-face arrogance of it all. "We can do this, it *is* happening, and it is good and *pleasurable* and there is nothing you can do about it." ***Babies***. I just can't stop crying about what's happening to ***babies***. That line from Alito in the *Dobbs* commentary (or someone he referenced) keeps going through my head: "domestic supply of infants". The right wants us to bear the children that the left will brainwash, butcher, and poison with their engineered "consent" as precedent for legalizing *sex with them*. Pedophiles run our world and everything in it. ***Pedophiles***. I have no faith in anything anymore. I tried doing other things to take my mind off of it but it hasn't helped. We got an offer in the mail for a Sirius XM trial, and I welled up because of all I know now about Martin Rothblatt. I felt such a sense of satisfaction running it through the paper shredder. But it didn't last. It's probably the autistic obsessiveness, but I simply can't take my mind off WPATH and what it means. How, after seeing *that which cannot be unseen*, does one keep from being overcome with a depressive death drive that involves so much crying as to literally cause the body to *buckle in abdominal pain*? 😱😭

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Bondi, I always appreciate your posts and I can relate to your despair. I’m not going to talk about the WPATH thing other than to say that people are on to it and it will fall apart. It’s unhinged. I also just want to gently say that it’s ok for us to walk away from all this shit for a while and just do things that fill us with peace, fun, or distraction. Don’t burn yourself out over this, you’re too valuable for that.

Thank you RawSienna. Seeing this just broke my heart. I so want this nightmare to be over soon.

Hugs to you, Bondi, and the other women here who feel like this is hopeless. I agree with taking a step back for a bit.

One thing to keep in mind is that we’re playing a long game here. Even though it feels like everything is happening very quickly, it took the TRA movement years to develop into what is now. So it may feel slow going, but trust that we’re on our way to undoing their damage. The problem is that part of it is playing catch up since they’ve had many years of a head start. The other very slow part is organizing and building coalitions, which is the stage that we’re in.

I am therefore trying to avoid the KF subject from now on in hopes that I don't get in trouble again

You shouldn't have to apologize for reporting news pertinent to free speech and people that are in the TRA crosshairs. I enjoyed your posts and commentary

Anyway, I was also livid when I saw the new WPATH guidelines. They're not even TRYING to hide the fact that they just want to put younger and younger children onto the conveyor belt of permanent medical dependence. Nor are they hiding the fact that they'll use literally ANYTHING to justify this (even something as basic as a girl liking her brother's clothes more than her own)

they are accelerating the push to fully and completely normalize the removal of age-of-consent laws. TRAs consider it "gatekeeping". And I just feel so despondent in the face of all this.

I have a 2 year old girl. And I have to take breaks from this issue to keep from losing my mind. I absolutely agree that they're trying to erode age of consent laws. After all, if an 9 year old is deemed legally able to disown their parents and get hormones on their own, there's no reason they also can't "choose" to have sex with their 50 year old gender doctor

Its so fucking obvious what they're doing. And I can't believe so many people on the left refuse to see it

Its so fucking obvious what they're doing. And I can't believe so many people on the left refuse to see it

I think they do. It's not being reported because of institutional capture of legacy media. The fact that people are showing up to protests and making phone calls in Massachusetts and Rhode Island is encouraging. Not the crackpot who took it too far at BCH. But others who didn't go to her extent. Chris Alston said that almost everyone he talked to at his demonstration there was a lifelong Democrat. In his threads are people from his home country in Canada, replying that their whole family is so disgusted by this that they tore up their membership cards in the Liberals and NDP.

I saw a comment from someone on Twitter the other day, a gay man who said that "it took us 20 years to get the NAMBLA freaks out of our movement and here they are again". I keep hoping people are starting to wake up and the floodgates won't be able to be held back. I get so crushed sometimes thinking about how it's still going on and is only getting worse. But maybe it has to get worse before it gets better.

[–] ghoul2 17 points Edited

Pedophiles run our world and everything in it.

Agree. Hold on and keep living in defiance of this.

Thanks for your post. I don't know what trouble there was over KF, so obviously I forgive you :-) I'm feeling depressed today, too. More selfish depression than yours, which is caring about others. Mine is more, why the fuck bother with anything. Hell, I worked my ass off for years fighting for abortion rights in my country, and yeah OK we have a tolerable law and decent access thanks to US, which I know is not nothing, and yet it still feels like, in the space of a couple of years, all that work and effort and sweat and crap was UNDONE.... no, not just undone, but we have regressed. We might have saved SOME women from being forced to continue unwanted pregnancies or try unsafe methods, but probably the same number or more of girls are sterilising themselves. And MOST of the women I fought alongside hate me now, at least the ones who know my terven ways, and are championing this. I thought I knew these women. I really loved working with them... So What the Actual Fuck did I bother with all that for? I give up.

Now his mission is to make bacha bazi a thing in the West.

Hit the nail on the head. This has been the end goal.

what's WPATH? I don't think I've heard of this before

World Professional Association of Transgender Health, basically the TRA "think tank" that influences all the other organizations and institutions (APA, AMA, HHS, NHS, Medicare/Medicaid, Public Health Canada, journalism/media outlets, etc.) on gender policy.

They released a "standards of care" document (like the TRA version of the DSM) that outright removed age guidelines on medicalization of kids, and has a chapter on "eunuch identities" that was written by a weirdo castration fetishist who offered advice on this subject to ISIL in the Washington Post of all places. Which raises some questions about Jeff Bezos IMO.

Reduxx has done excellent work investigating this group and found some disturbing internet behavior among its membership. It's the kind of stuff that would have ended up on a certain other bird app that no longer exists -- and this is why that defunct bird app no longer exists. The TRA powers-that-be don't want it being known.

I know how you feel. Sometimes I just want to burn the whole world down and start again. But then I go do something else, and realise burning it all down would burn the good as well and there is still good in the world. Case in point: there are people who disagree with this shit, us here but actually most normies as well, if they only knew what was happening.

And I think for their insane ideas to work, every mother in the world would have to be ok with it. Yes, there are plenty of mothers who seem fine with what's going on, but there are also lots, even of those who have drunk the gender woo, who will absolutely NOT be ok with losing age of consent laws. The push back is starting.

yes i agree and i also agree with your emotion over it. i feel like as women we are indoctrinated and taught to believe we are wrong when we feel so strongly about something (crying over these sorts of things) but it is our feminine intuition telling us we are on to something. we have been so suppressed. not truly related to your post but i felt i had to add it.