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[–] shewolfoffrance 🦕 82 points Edited

Weird how they give a shit now.

They could have given a shit when:

  • Dana Rivers murdered a family

  • Caitlin Jenner was declared Woman of the Year

  • Morgane Oger got funding for a women's domestic violence shelter revoked

  • Jessica Yaniv was abusing the legal system to try to force immigrant women to touch his genitals

  • Lia Thomas scooped up medals without even kicking his feet in the pool

  • A male New Jersey inmate impregnated two women

  • A "boy in a skirt" raped a girl in the women's bathroom at school in Loudoun County

  • Mridul Wadwha said rape victims needed to "reframe" their trauma if they didn't like being around males

  • WPATH openly endorses "affirming" the importance of castrating minors who "identify" as eunuchs

Idk, just really weird how they care now, after years of embarrassing and horrifying news stories, just when a news story goes viral that makes them look fucking stupid, lewd, and risible all at once.

A lot of people are visual learners

News that goes viral is usually accompanied by a striking image of these types in their (un)natural state. I that's why LoTT made such an impact and why Lia Thomas and Kayla Lemieux got more attention than the WPATH guidelines.

They can't say this didn't happen, its very obviously mysoginistic, its still going on, its been filmed by multiple students, and its being paraded in front of kids.

what can they deny here? they have to pretend to give a shit,

I think they're becoming aware of the mounting backlash to gender woo as well. Not a week goes by without some new embarrassment to The Cause.

captured it perfectly. there has to be a line drawn and I had no idea we were this far gone that people would cowardly opine about whether this crosses it or not? what the fuck! trans people do not deserve to be grouped in with this!!

Maybe if you stopped calling us transphobes for 2 seconds and actually heard us out directly, you would have known this problem started years ago. We've given plenty of examples of harm because of the abuse of the law and you called us deranged. "This never happens." We told you that this is a predator's dream come true and you didn't believe us. Do you think we lock our doors because everybody is a thief? No. Criminals use opportunity. If there's a chance he won't be called out because people are afraid of being called a transphobe, then why not? In the mean time, by the time people get the courage to call him out, he'll leave a trail of victims.

“Men wouldn’t go to the trouble of identifying as trans to get into women’s spaces” is the common counter argument we’ve heard. You underestimate how far misogynistic porn sick men will go to satisfy their urges. And criminals generally don’t have a high iq, so they’ll go bragging about it online.

And it gets worse. This stuff wasn't called out on main stream media because it "might make the trans community look bad." By keeping silent, it gave the message that they were condoning it. Now here we are. The common population think it's transphobia to say no to anyone who identifies as trans, no matter how outrageous the act. They’re afraid of being lumped in with the right-wingers.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 73 points

trans people do not deserve to be grouped in with this!!

Oh yes you fucking do.

[–] SecondSkin 26 points Edited

According to Stonewall’s trans umbrella cross dressers are trans, and anyone who says they are a woman is one.

If adults who have gender dysphoria want to be considered separate to the cross dressers, then they better start campaigning on behalf of single sex -the real meaning- spaces, services and against self ID, transing children and co-opting women’s language.

If it’s important to them to not be lumped in with the many predators like this teacher, then they can do something about that.

If they don’t, then they are the same as this predator. Because they are grooming kids just the same by prioritising their wrong sexed or plural pronouns over teaching kid’s that biological reality matters and kids have a right to boundaries, and a right not be used in predators fetish.

There are a couple of well know TiMs out there who do this to some extent (Yardley and the guy who was one of Maya’s solicitors), so it’s clearly possible for them to do this. So all those who don’t, clearly are opting to be under the same umbrella as this guy. Which makes them the same groomy predator. And no adult opts to be a predator unless they want to be one.

[–] Tiramisuomi 52 points Edited

“Men wouldn’t go to the trouble of identifying as trans to get into women’s spaces” is the common counter argument we’ve heard. You underestimate how far misogynistic porn sick men will go to satisfy their urges.

It's like they know nothing about pedophiles. Those fuckers will play the LONG game, we're talking years. They'll date parents they have zero attraction to, train as coaches when they have no interest in the sport, become teachers, doctors....

Men absolutely will do this. If you (general you, not you-you) know anything about men, you know it to be true. "wouldn't go to the trouble/wouldn't really happen" - justification and trying to convince yourself when you KNOW there's something wrong here.

Fuck's sake.

[–] GCRadFem 61 points

This is the reality of today. You're supposed to look at that freak and pretend it's all normal and that emperor's new clothes are beautiful, or you're a CEO of transphobia and literal hitler.

Hell to the yeah.

Welcome to our world.

All of them deserve to own that freak.

Seriously, I don't see how *any * of them think they are different. They are all men. Period.

Truscum are the ones who want to gatekeep transgenderism with diagnosis and mandatory treatment before getting say, a sex marker changed. They believe its a medical condition so they hate self-ID as much as we do.

If society was still favoring their policies, quite honestly we wouldn't be here. There would be a lot fewer problems (like this hentai-inspired BS), and fewer TIMs overall.

But Tucute - the ones who favor self-ID and who turned trans into a fad, they outnumber truscum and they are NOT touching this story with a 10-foot pole. They all know how bad it looks but it will look worse when they openly defend it (and they can't criticize it without giving up their position). So they've no choice but to keep quiet.

[–] immersang ★♫☆❉★♬☆ 32 points

she [sic] went with the ones with nipples because this is a fetish. the fact that it's gross, distracting, exhibitionist shit is all part of the thrill. i bet the teacher loves when students take pictures and laugh about it. that's the whole point.

I'm baffled that this comment is allowed to stay up in a trans sub on reddit of all places.

Its ok when men say it 🙄

[–] Peppermint 0 points Edited

Exactly which is why any trans threads on the joerogan subreddit usually had a lot less bans and deleted comments etc. It is assumed they are an all male audience. So in general most but all dissenting comments on the trans agenda seemed to be allowed.

Which I think is why they someone recently decided to reinvoke their rule of "no politics" but I heard it is broken all the time.

[–] SlowCollapse 20 points Edited

I'm suprised that sub still exists. At this point, 'Truscum' are more-or-less 'TERF lite'.

With some reasonable medical gatekeeping, the 'trans issue' wouldn't exist. A tiny percentage of people would transition to cope with legit dysphoria, there's be no non-binary bollocks, transtrenders, social contagion, or pronoun battles, and we wouldn't have the ridiculous 'destroy all boundaries!' mentality that's peaked to many people.

[–] TinLizzie 19 points Edited

It's not "sense" so much as it is backpedaling and gatekeeping because NOW this shit matters. My my, if it isn't the consequences of your own actions.

HOWEVER, that’s what creeps do, they like to push boundaries to see what they can get away with, and we may have to institute the “i know it when i see it” rule when it comes to public exhibitionism

No, now you get to lie in the bed you've made for society and EXACTLY as u/Maplefields noted, finally know how it feels to be grouped together with the irrational crazies on a knee-jerk reaction without a damn second thought because critical thinking is well and truly dead.

Sometimes I wish there was like, a tribunal of trans women. Then, when freaks like this come out of the woodwork, they can be sent before the tribunal who will then pass a reparative requirement up to and including shipping the person of their trans status protections.

Oh honey. Something something fox, henhouse...only I just can't put my finger on it. /s

it gives me the same vibes as those over sexualised anime girls

And why would that be a problem? Do go on, Broseph.

[–] slytherin 14 points Edited

i can understand that technically the teacher is straddling the line on what it means to be trans, as in i guess we’ll now have to publicly debate how big you want your tits to be before it goes from dysphoria to exhibitionism HOWEVER, that’s what creeps do, they like to push boundaries to see what they can get away with,* and we may have to institute the “i know it when i see it” rule when it comes to public exhibitionism

So, they want trans gatekeepers? Are they also gonna be male, or do us women have a say? How about, if you have XY chromosomes, you're male. That's easy, isn't it?

*emphasis mine

[–] shewolfoffrance 🦕 1 points Edited

It reminds me of the "you were never really trans" line that gets thrown at detransitioners. It's not the gotcha they think it is because women and men who were prescribed blockers and hormones, and given surgery had to go through at least a few therapists and doctors--the supposed experts. And if the experts can't tell who's "really" trans, that's an argument for more gatekeeping. It's also a reason for TRAs to condemn, rather than celebrate, purveyors of DIY bathtub hormones and places like egg_irl. But then, the trans crowd never has been good at considering long-term consequences before acting.

On the one hand, they realize the threat this perv poses "to the cause". On the other hand, what really distinguishes him from "valid" TIMs? You can have (government-funded) chest attachments but not too big?

You know, I hoped the one thing that would come out of this mess would be for the unworkability of self-ID to become obvious to the wider public.

Now I'm hoping that another thing we will get is for the TRAs to go on the defensive and start infighting over when one of their own has gone too far. It will prevent them from getting anything done as a group.

[–] Peppermint 5 points Edited

If they really cared it wouldn't be against the law to talk about any these issues anywhere on the planet. Nor would they ever let the word "kill" come out of their mouths.

If they really cared they wouldn't be for transing kids that aren't trans (And that is the MAJORITY of kids - 99%). They wouldn't be pushing sexual BS onto children and babies. They would be appalled at efforts to prevent parents from protecting their children. They would also be against children transitioned 2 decades before they know what is happening to them or truly realize what the consequences are. If they cared they would be horrified at WPATH's guidelines. They would also be disgusted and very saddened of all the detrans stories. If they cared, they wouldn't be pushing to be in women only spaces especially critical ones like jails and rape shelters etc because when reality knocks they are men no matter what they wear or what operation they got.

If they cared they would be disgusted at men who push themselves into critical care centers like ERs because they need to pretend they are on their period. Transweemen CAN'T have periods or cramps because they are NOT women. ERs are no joke. People are in there with life threatening conditions and these fools are taking up valuable time/space away from people who are sick and dying. In the ER every second counts. Same goes for the idiot men going to crowded OBGYNS screaming for an abortion.

And yes prisons.. if they cared no transweemen would be in women's prisons period especially the ones who raped and/or killed women or several of them to get in there. If they have problems with other men thats a problem to be dealt with separately. Let them have their own place but not with women. Women have enough problems with men as it is.

If they actually cared they would be angry at every single transweeman beating little girls and women to death. Some transweemen want to be women so much they hate them. And thats a reality. And thats why they don't care about anyone being transitioned simply for being depressed, because If they can't have a real woman's body then no one can. They are complacent with women's bodies being destroyed no matter how young they are. They are jealous and selfish AF. If anyone of them actually cared they would push for boundaries between their group and women as much as possible.

If they cared about anyone but themselves they would never let the word "Nazi" or "holocaust" come out of their mouths again because that is offensive to all the survivors and their families. Comparing access to a woman's bathroom or access to women's bodies for sex is worlds beyond comparable to the holocaust. Same goes for what Black and brown people have experienced and continue to experience world wide. In the end TIMs all sound like holocaust deniers.

If they cared they wouldn't be using the word "Woman" or trying to redefine women to object, body parts or functions. They would acknowledge women are the most oppressed class around the world since history began. A world where a woman can get her head smashed in for not covering it. Calling a woman by her body parts does not help her causes. And the fact that transweemen are OK with this is why they are all offensive AF. It doesn't matter what flavor for transweemen they think they are. The male teacher with the size 48 QQQ fake breasts is one and the same as they are.

If they really cared they would never ever! say any lesbian or straight woman is obligated to have sex or remain partnered with them. This list could go on and on. If they are embarrassed they should be but for a thousand more reasons than they even realize.

Edit. If you handmaidens and "caring"? trans people need a summary of why the trans movement is offensive? its because the TRA agenda promotes MURDER, PEDOPHILIA, RAPE and the BILLION DOLLAR COMMERCIALIZATION of transitioning BUTCHERING innocent children and babies.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 2 points Edited

If they really cared they wouldn't be for transing kids that aren't trans (And that is the MAJORITY of kids - 99%).

No, it would be 100%, because there is no such thing as “trans” and no mental illness for which exogenous hormones, surgical mutilation and lying about one’s sex are appropriate.

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