"As a transwoman, this person doesn't represent us!"

Yeah, and as a woman... not a single "transwoman" represents us.

(But only they're allowed to decide who they represent and who represents them, I guess 🙄)

[–] Peppermint 56 points Edited

They need to own it. If he says he's trans. He's trans. They are like him. He is like them. I see no difference. And either way, its against the law in Canada (as I just learned) for anyone to say anything to him or about him. That's why he is there. The magic word is trans.

If we the world have to deal with him as a trans pedophile among kids so do they. They are the reasons why he is there. The can't just revoke his membership just because they don't like him or fail to see fully themselves in him. He is TRANS 1000%. They keep saying if you say your X your X. The minute anyone says X they are X as they say. And their other lies "no debate" "gender is a spectrum" Let them eat their own excrement I say.

He's not the only one.. there's tons more like him. I say keep posting his photo and others with the words Trans, transgender and transwoman .. everywhere. Edit: Make these posts in a fully positive fashion... say you are "proud" to support him as part of the community. What a true marvel of trans hood. LOL

When this trend is over, as trans ppl get older and the effects of the damage they've done to their bodies really start kicking in on a mass level, and the lawsuits from the kids who are right now being transitioned in childhood start, this is all gonna feel like a horrible fever dream lol

If he's not entitled to "trans rights" then they are "rights" that not everyone has. Which means they are not "right", but actually they are PRIVILEGES. Taking back "trans rights" from pedophiles and fetishists only goes to show that they were never "rights" to begin with.

It’s not even about the teacher’s behavior. It’s about who makes them look bad to the public. These people policed the “misgendering” of mother-rapist, Chris Chan. They cape for misogynistic murderers/serial killers. But this teacher and Yaniv, they were too embarrassing and were peaking too many normies.

ETA transgenderism/TRAs is more like a church and it’s members, and one can certainly be excommunicated from a church. It’s an ideology/belief system, not just a state of being, like being homosexual or female. The problem is, TRAs want to pretend their ideology is not an ideology, but a state of being. Until shit hits the fan, and then it’s an ideology that people can be kicked out of. They want it both ways.

This right here:

"The problem is, TRAs want to pretend their ideology is not an ideology, but a state of being."

That's also how they want to sell womanhood...with no basis in material reality.

Exactly.. a women better not misgender her rapist, because we as women, are to never challenge them on anything, but at the same time, they retain the right to revoke transgender status to anyone that makes them look too bad..totally ran like every patriarchial religion where the big man has all the power bc he thinks he's God.

[–] Lipsy i/just/can't 7 points

You'd think they'd have been ecstatic to let Chris-Chan get MiSgEnDeReD. Why wouldn't TRAs have wanted to disavow him even more than Mr. Hentai-kun the otaku shop-class perv?

[–] FeminineMistake 12 points Edited

This puzzles me, too. My cynical and "let me be wrong" take is that his victim was his mother, and an older white woman, and they can currently be blamed for everything (including, according to a lot of right wing GCs, transgenderism lol). Not to mention not one single TRA I've met has a healthy relationship with his mother.

This guy is involving kids in his fetish. I'm not sure they're actually more offended, they just realize that far more people give a shit about kids than about adult women being raped.

Particularly boys. That business with the TIM watching the underaged girls undress in a public bathroom at the swimming pool didn't cause as much peaking.

They don’t really care about kids either, scores of them get groomed and abused online and irl, behind closed doors. It’s just that with this teacher, TRAs can’t “that never happens!” this or spin it as a fake scare story by GCs. It’s all up in everyone’s faces.

You’d think, but these misogynists don’t really have a problem with rape or incest. They probably jack off to it, and the handmaidens are guilted into feeling sorry for him because he’s “mentally ill”. And Chris-Chan is relatively unknown by normies, it’s only very online people that are aware of his extensive history.

[–] vulvapeople 5 points Edited

In addition to what others have said, a key difference with Chris is that he was held accountable and quickly hustled out of the public eye. If this teacher had been suspended or fired immediately upon the story going viral, it would be less obvious to normies that fetish display is a major problem with TIMs, both in terms of exposing who they really are and exposing the "accommodations" they want in the workplace.

The public backlash wasn't as strong nor noticable back then. Now that more of the world is watching, they are starting to get a bit nervous.

How the mother rapist or other p3dos are higher in the hierarchy? AFAIK this new fetishist has only exposed his fake tits, that's plastic, hasn't physically attacked anybody and hasn't tried to groom any student. Or has been inappropriate. I'm thinking this guy just wants money.

Well, Chris-Chan and those other criminals are in jail afaik, they are safely out of the public eye. But this teacher is smack-dab in normie-land, teaching kids. They can’t just quietly memory hole him. TRAs even went to bat for Yaniv until his outrageous online behavior and constant malicious litigation embarrassed them, after which they tried to distance themselves.

and as far as we know hasn't provided drugs to children, etc.

Yeah, this guy sucks, but lots of TIMs do far worse things to children and get far less flack. Honestly part of it is probably just an accident of timing. It may be inconsistent, but just as it's weird to me that sports is a better tipping point than rapists in women's prisons, but I'll take it if it works ... same here.

Whatever happened to “acceptance without exception” or like, “trans people are who they say they are” or endless prattling about how all TIPs are “valid”

Funny that.

[+] [Deleted] 34 points

Underpinning a lot of this I think it's the explosion of online culture. Only through a combination of being mentally unwell and way to much time online would you get the idea that it's acceptable to dress in, whatever the hell that bloke is wearing.

We might be seeing a turn towards understanding the bizarre effects that the internet is having on real world behaviours. Maybe this is the start of new mental illness categories. We know how mental illness expressions are shaped by culture.

But yeah, it reveals the bonkers logic underpinning idpol. Anyone who has had the misfortune of reading some post modernism lit knows how a lot of the ideas come from exploring how madness is socially constructed and treated (Foucault, Deleuze and Guatarri). Not to chuck the baby out with the bathwater here, they have produced useful insights. It's also helpful to locate their work as part of the unfolding reactions to the sheer horror of rational processes as exemplified by the Nazi bureaucracy machine. Using their work as a basis for policy making misses entirely what they were critiquing (the destructiveness of rational bureaucracy). It's another form of madness. Naming it as such I think might be helpful.

[–] Tiramisuomi 22 points Edited

I definitely think that life on the internet is behind this, and this is only the tip of the iceberg. People live so much of their lives through a medium in which they can be whoever they want to be, whether by only selectively sharing positive traits of theirs at best (as we all do to some extent), and completely lying about who they are worst.

It feels like an injustice to go into the real world and have to suffer from not being seen as you want to be perceived. When I was online dating, I got told more than once that it was unfair to meet them and decide I didn't like them, because I "fell for" -- I did not, they were nice enough to meet and that's it -- their "real self" online.

That's quite a form of technologically mediated splitting I have to say!

I made a choice based on a really bizarre relationship that was mostly chat based to always anchor online interactions with real-life meetings. Applies to friendship and romantic relationships. It's so easy to project an imagined other, or imagined self through internet technology.

[–] Tiramisuomi 6 points Edited

Co-signed! Especially about the imagined self, because as I said, we're all tempted to do it, and it's mostly subconcious.

How silly I felt to convince myself I really liked a person only to discover within the first seconds of meeting that I couldn't stand the way they smelled. That put an end to that! I never again got past "they might be cool to meet" feelings-wise without meeting.

"You thought I was attractive when all you knew about me were things I wanted you to know, and when you could rely upon your own observations, you weren't attracted to me anymore. MEAN! UNFAIR!"

That's terrible. A woman, or any man, can say at any point in dating, "I no longer like you. This is over."

Definitely. And think it's also been a cumulation of not seeing disturbing online behavior as 'real' enough to bother with that's allowed it to escalate so much. Because it's still real people saying and doing these things. Handwaving away graphic threats of violence, for example.

Been a selective approach as to what's acknowledged as a real threat in the online world that's for sure. That former BBC radio DJ for five years for what looks to be mostly online based harassment (I could not find the full details of the case). A woman gets repeatedly threatened with rape online and it's just not taken as seriously.

Really quite bizarre how that TiM isn't taken side and quietly put in sick leave. Real world bureaucracy based on internet and pomo bollocks is also a factor.

With the school board, I almost wonder if it's not that they're true believers that this is somehow fine, but that they're terrified that they can't do that legally in Canada anymore and will be punished severely if they do. And that might even be accurate. Would Canadian laws at this juncture actually back this man over a school removing him from his position over this?

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 12 points

“Mentally unwell” meaning “depraved” in TIMs’ cases. Or the old term “criminally insane” would work imo.

Forcing everyone to live online, and in Ontario it was one of the worst for that, can only have accelerated this insanity. This guy 'trans'ed' when he would have been working from home/online 24/7.

"Dude, come on - we all know it's creepy fetishistic bullshit, but you can't just expose us like this. Bros before hoes, man!"

[–] goodyusername Team Terflair 15 points

As for me, I think it just shows how much of an unrealistic, not based in reality, crackpot idea transgenderism is. If you can decide as an individual or as a group whether or not someone is trans depending on what personal behavior you agree/disagree with, then it's not real.

Yes, quite right. In the Globe and Mail (archive link) Phoebe Maltz Bovy tried to say Tits McGee was bad, but true trans are okay. No, hon, a fetish is a fetish is a fetish is a fetish...

[–] Peppermint 13 points Edited

They need to support him! He could suicide at any moment. What about that? Denouncing him as a true member among them is not gender affirming. How mean of them! What about his feels?!?! /s

I was so pissed last night bc I'm reading this book that debunks a lot of popular trans statistics and the suicide one is complete bullshit

I mean either way, threatening to kill yourself if you don't get what you want when you want it, is fucking so manipulative.

threatening to kill yourself if you don't get what you want when you want it, is fucking so manipulative.

It so totally is. Its up there with munchasen by proxy

It doesn't matter if they disown him or not. This fetishist is now beyond reproach for laws they have demanded they have. Now kids have to be taught by this creep and they aren't allowed to say anything about it. Parents can't complain. It's the law in Tranada. Same goes for any bearded male rapist that goes into a woman's bathroom and says he has the right to be there. Women can't complain. Own it.

[–] Tiramisuomi 12 points Edited

This fetishist is now beyond reproach for laws they have demanded they have.

Seeing this happen in practice is peaking people even harder than seeing Bazooka Joe would by itself. Undeniable, irrefutable proof that the culture of fear for wrong-think paired with TRA legislation has put an end to consequences for men who say they are women, no matter what they do.

They did the same with Jonathan Yaniv when the publicity around him became too embarrassing for them to handle. Have they done the same with Oli London? I think the TIMs who show up the flaws in the ideology too dramatically, to the point that normies are starting to question the whole ideological and legal framework, get thrown under the bus.

They're still cool with Ezra thingy aren't they? Bizarrely they never seem to disown the abusers and serial killers and rapists and pedophiles. They did disown Ian Huntley (btw that story about him identifying as trans was printed in three newspapers and only the least reputable one retracted it) but I think mostly because he's SO infamous.

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