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Abusive men love to use them. I'm sure that somewhere in the spiel about how badly abused he was by her, it's that she literally tried to kill him by continuing to do/refuse to do the thing that he told her he wanted her to do/stop doing or else he would kill himself.

I'm fucking sick of abusive male tactics forcing women into silence. I hate that manipulative suicide threats are working to make people believe that words and radical feminism represent actual, literal violence. It always comes down to suicides when someone really locks them down and asks what exactly they mean when trans lives are at stake. It's never about actual murders, committed overwhelmingly by men. It's always about how we can't even talk about this or they will kill themselves.

Title. Abusive men love to use them. I'm sure that somewhere in the spiel about how badly abused *he* was by *her*, it's that she literally tried to kill him by continuing to do/refuse to do the thing that he told her he wanted her to do/stop doing or else he would kill himself. I'm fucking sick of abusive male tactics forcing women into silence. I hate that manipulative suicide threats are working to make people believe that words and radical feminism represent actual, literal violence. It always comes down to suicides when someone really locks them down and asks what exactly they mean when trans lives are at stake. It's never about actual murders, committed overwhelmingly by men. It's always about how we can't even talk about this or they will kill themselves.

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[–] RuneOwl 4 points Edited

People who threaten suicide to manipulate and control others (or control a narrative) are abusive. This is not coming from the same place as a genuine cry for help.

I think it’s worth noting that in some cases (more often than you’d think) abusive men who weaponize suicide/self harm actually do go through with it. They will often go out in a way that will cause lasting trauma for the victim, like leaving behind a grisly scene for her to find or even killing himself in front of her. He’ll make sure to leave her in a position where friends and family will blame her for his death and, hopefully, she will be consumed with guilt and misery for the rest of her life. It’s a particularly extreme version of “look what you made me do”.

This happens more commonly in domestic violence situations, but I could see a few unhinged TIMs try and become political martyrs if they felt like it would do enough harm to women’s rights. Unfortunately it seems like their MO is to profit off of gaslighting vulnerable children and teenagers into feeling suicidal instead, which is infinitely worse.