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https://odysee.com/@Exulansic:d/Another-hospital-training-video:0

Exlusansic got this from Scott Newgent. Please, PLEASE look. It's a hospital training video on how to essentially break parents down and get them to agree to transition treatments for their kids.

The sketch premise is a nurse talking to a teenage boy who is not eating to stay slim, so he can look more girly. He fainted at school, and the nurse is praising him for being honest that he wants to be called Amanda. In the next scene, the nurse and two other staff are going over how they are going to talk to mom. They agree they will initially use the name Jacob and use male pronouns to not spook the mother. Even though, presumably, they believe Jacob really is a girl.

So the first step is lying to parents about what you actually think and feel. Make them think you believe one way, and then reveal to them later that you actually feel the other way.

Lying is part of this.

Then they all take "Janet," the mother, into a small, cramped room to talk to her.

Note that surrounding the mom in a physically tight space is part of how they do it. They're all on the side of the door and she's against the wall. Her seat is lower than theirs and they're all talking to her in babytalk voices. All eyes on her. If she wanted to leave she'd have to squeeze past them, which is intimidating. The hushed, barely there voices force her to strain herself to hear them.

It's to make her feel small, outnumbered, and stupid.

I know they don't dare suggest all those techniques out loud but the modeling sends the message anyway.

They don't get into the details of what not eating will do to Jacob, just that it needs to stop at all costs. That way, they don't have to explain what genital mangling and artificial hormones will do at all.

Not until Janet already submits and commits to putting Jacob on that path. First they have to break her down or she'll never agree to it. If they give her information about puberty blockers and all that shit before and then let her make a decision, she'd definitely say no. This is not an acceptable outcome. It's not Woke and there's no money in it.

They pretend to offer Janet a choice. "We're definitely not saying this is what you have to do......blah blah blah word salad.....but we know, that not eating is just not an option anymore........"

This is to make Janet think that it's hormones or Jacob starves to death. The odds of this are extremely low. Anorexia is rare enough in girls, and even more rare in boys, and the odds that he would actively enter the death zone are very, very slim. The ramifications of artificial hormones and genital mangling are definite. They also make it seem like there's no other treatment for anorexia, which he doesn't even have. He doesn't think he's fat, he just wants to look girly.

In a hospital training video, you'd think they'd understand what anorexia is and how it works. Has there even been ONE teenage boy who starved to death because he didn't get "tiddie skittles"? The entire scenario looks like it was put together by an 8th grader who doesn't know anything about anorexia.

They switch back and forth between male and female pronouns to be confusing about what they really think. Are they saying he's a girl? Are they not? What are they saying?

"We have some new information that's going to help us take better care of him...."

An offering of mysterious information that will solve EVERYTHING! No learning what that is until you sign up. Before Janet can ask what that information might be, another nurse immediately makes the decision for her:

"I did call the therapist, and they're going to get you in as soon as possible so that you can have an emergency family meeting."

This is to rush Janet, so that she doesn't have any time to think. She's already in. The nurses went through the trouble of pre-ordering everything, the situation is so dire!

Finally, Janet is given an opportunity to speak and she asks if Jacob told the nurses anything else.

"Being called Amanda makes her really happy, and she asked us to call her Amanda here today, and she really wanted you to know because, you know, you love her and she wants you to help, and you want to help."

Back to female pronouns. So now they're telling her they already know what she really thinks; she just doesn't know that she thinks that. "You poor, befuddled, fool, we know what you are thinking, and we'll help you sort it out." Of course, there's the manipulation, too. "You love her." If Janet calls bullshit on this, the implied defense will be "oh. We.....thought you loved Jacob. I mean, Amanda. You do love your child....don't you?"

Janet pushes back, though, but that is easily corrected with a silent stare.

"Okay, I'm not going to be able to do that right away. Not at all....."

Stare.

"But...I'll try."

They could just put a bucket of chicken or a plate of bacon in front of Jacob and see what happens. (I'm not kidding. There's research to show that the fragrances of fried chicken and bacon make vegans fold near every time). The odds of a teenage boy not instinctively grabbing a drumstick and ripping into it like a Neanderthal are damn near zero. Humans literally partake in cannibalism to avoid the pain of starvation. A growing teenage male's drive to eat is pretty damn amazing. My son isn't a teen yet and he's like having a hyena at the Indian buffet.

This ridiculous scenario is awkward, weird, and embarrassing to have been cranked out by medical professionals. To be shown to more medical professionals. The only possible improvement would the be the silhouettes of cheap robot puppets in the lower right hand corner of the screen making smart ass remarks.

Nonetheless, this is absolutely to make Janet feel cornered, frightened, and to give her very little room to push back. No information because no time!

Savvy medical professionals will recognize that Jacob's anorexia is hokey and inaccurate, but they will understand the hard sales techniques. Dopey medical professionals will think the project is flawed but suicide and stuff so the hard sales techniques are morally just.

Scott Newgent was in sales and she knows the psychology of how they work. Anyone who knows anything about police interrogation corruption could see what that was. Fuck, ex-Scientologists would have traumatic flashbacks watching this video.

Rad fems, any thoughts?

https://odysee.com/@Exulansic:d/Another-hospital-training-video:0 Exlusansic got this from Scott Newgent. Please, PLEASE look. It's a hospital training video on how to essentially break parents down and get them to agree to transition treatments for their kids. The sketch premise is a nurse talking to a teenage boy who is not eating to stay slim, so he can look more girly. He fainted at school, and the nurse is praising him for being honest that he wants to be called Amanda. In the next scene, the nurse and two other staff are going over how they are going to talk to mom. They agree they will initially use the name Jacob and use male pronouns to not spook the mother. Even though, presumably, they believe Jacob really is a girl. So the first step is lying to parents about what you actually think and feel. Make them think you believe one way, and then reveal to them later that you actually feel the other way. Lying is part of this. Then they all take "Janet," the mother, into a small, cramped room to talk to her. Note that surrounding the mom in a physically tight space is part of how they do it. They're all on the side of the door and she's against the wall. Her seat is lower than theirs and they're all talking to her in babytalk voices. All eyes on her. If she wanted to leave she'd have to squeeze past them, which is intimidating. The hushed, barely there voices force her to strain herself to hear them. It's to make her feel small, outnumbered, and stupid. I know they don't dare suggest all those techniques out loud but the modeling sends the message anyway. They don't get into the details of what not eating will do to Jacob, just that it needs to stop at all costs. That way, they don't have to explain what genital mangling and artificial hormones will do at all. Not until Janet already submits and commits to putting Jacob on that path. First they have to break her down or she'll never agree to it. If they give her information about puberty blockers and all that shit before and *then* let her make a decision, she'd definitely say no. This is not an acceptable outcome. It's not Woke and there's no money in it. They pretend to offer Janet a choice. "We're definitely not saying this is what you have to do......blah blah blah word salad.....but we know, that not eating is just not an option anymore........" This is to make Janet think that it's hormones or Jacob starves to death. The odds of this are extremely low. Anorexia is rare enough in girls, and even more rare in boys, and the odds that he would actively enter the death zone are very, very slim. The ramifications of artificial hormones and genital mangling are **definite.** They also make it seem like there's no other treatment for anorexia, which he doesn't even have. He doesn't think he's fat, he just wants to look girly. In a hospital training video, you'd think they'd understand what anorexia is and how it works. Has there even been ONE teenage boy who starved to death because he didn't get "tiddie skittles"? The entire scenario looks like it was put together by an 8th grader who doesn't know anything about anorexia. They switch back and forth between male and female pronouns to be confusing about what they really think. Are they saying he's a girl? Are they not? What are they saying? "We have some new information that's going to help us take better care of him...." An offering of mysterious information that will solve EVERYTHING! No learning what that is until you sign up. Before Janet can ask what that information might be, another nurse immediately makes the decision for her: "I did call the therapist, and they're going to get you in as soon as possible so that you can have an emergency family meeting." This is to rush Janet, so that she doesn't have any time to think. She's already in. The nurses went through the trouble of pre-ordering everything, the situation is so dire! Finally, Janet is given an opportunity to speak and she asks if Jacob told the nurses anything else. "Being called Amanda makes her really happy, and she asked us to call her Amanda here today, and she really wanted you to know because, you know, you love her and she wants you to help, and you want to help." Back to female pronouns. So now they're telling her they already know what she really thinks; she just doesn't know that she thinks that. "You poor, befuddled, fool, we know what you are thinking, and we'll help you sort it out." Of course, there's the manipulation, too. "You love her." If Janet calls bullshit on this, the implied defense will be "oh. We.....thought you loved Jacob. I mean, Amanda. You do love your child....don't you?" Janet pushes back, though, but that is easily corrected with a silent stare. "Okay, I'm not going to be able to do that right away. Not at all....." Stare. "But...I'll try." They could just put a bucket of chicken or a plate of bacon in front of Jacob and see what happens. (I'm not kidding. There's research to show that the fragrances of fried chicken and bacon make vegans fold near every time). The odds of a teenage boy not instinctively grabbing a drumstick and ripping into it like a Neanderthal are damn near zero. Humans literally partake in cannibalism to avoid the pain of starvation. A growing teenage male's drive to eat is pretty damn amazing. My son isn't a teen yet and he's like having a hyena at the Indian buffet. This ridiculous scenario is awkward, weird, and embarrassing to have been cranked out by medical professionals. To be shown to more medical professionals. The only possible improvement would the be the silhouettes of cheap robot puppets in the lower right hand corner of the screen making smart ass remarks. Nonetheless, this is absolutely to make Janet feel cornered, frightened, and to give her very little room to push back. No information because no time! Savvy medical professionals will recognize that Jacob's anorexia is hokey and inaccurate, but they will understand the hard sales techniques. Dopey medical professionals will think the project is flawed but suicide and stuff so the hard sales techniques are morally just. Scott Newgent was in sales and she knows the psychology of how they work. Anyone who knows anything about police interrogation corruption could see what that was. Fuck, ex-Scientologists would have traumatic flashbacks watching this video. Rad fems, any thoughts?

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[–] Tortoisemouse 38 points Edited

Also the "thin = girly" assumption goes unchallenged by the female nurse. That feminine beautify is equated with skinniness is one of the most harmful gender stereotypes out there, and yet the nurse just nods and says, "hmm, makes a lot of sense".

"Patient": I don't like to eat so that I'll stay skinny and more female

"Nurse": Well that makes a lot of sense

Yeah, in a world of fucked-up patriarchy that tells women their womanliness depends on starving themselves, it makes a lot of sense.

[–] ElectricBlue 12 points Edited

A friend of mine who IDs as a transman is actually obsessed with exercising her breasts off, so it struck me as odd that this video says that not eating = feminine, when for a lot of women/girls thin = masculine.

I might conclude that "not wanting to get big" had another root cause.

I think it depends on starting sex. My TIM friend in college was an anorexic because he thought big=muscular, hulking, male. Whereas for women, big=breasts, hips, female.

[–] FeminineMistake 15 points Edited

Even if you wanted to “affirm,” wouldn't a better response from a nurse be “even if there are things you don’t like about your body, you need to take care of it and keep it healthy, and that means nourishing it. Let’s talk about how you can feel more comfortable as ‘Amanda’ while also giving your body what you need to stay alive, ok?”

The kid has some agency. He's not 'forced' by his mother calling him Jacob to starve himself. That's a choice, and a really bad and immature one. Telling him "your bad choice is the fault of other people/your mother" rather than "you need to make better choices, let's work on that" is part of why these people are such histrionic, entitled failures of human beings.

"Affirming" while discussing better choices is vastly better than “well that makes a lot of sense” FFS. Would you say, to someone who drinks to forget every night to deal with their trauma, “well that makes a lot of sense,” or would you say “there are a lot of healthier ways to deal with that pain, let’s explore how you can cope with the trauma without doing possibly permanent damage to your liver and brain etc”?

I've known many thin men who admire a plump woman. We make and store fat. It's kind of part of the deal. Even fat TIMs often pass better because they are fat.

Sometimes they look more fragile and slight super thin. When men put on weight, even with hormones, they get beefy.

I came to speculate on this. I've seen way more instances of young TIPs overeating themselves into being a vague genderblob, than starving themselves. But nobody dies of overeating (or at least much more slowly) so I feel like they went with the TIP starving themselves to make the clip more "dramatic".

Same energy as the enabling of suicide threats. If you don’t let your child transition they’ll starve themselves to death immediately!

That stood out to me as well. In the video, they don't even get the kid any goddam food! They just say, "Yes Amanda. It makes sense that you equate anorexia with being a girl", and immediately run to indoctrinate the mother

[–] hellamomzilla 48 points Edited

It was about seven years ago that my daughter said she was suicidal and was committed to an adolescent psych ward. I was called in less than 48 hours later (they don’t want kids to stick around and pick up bad ward habits) for an exit debrief which started with a lecture from the social worker about how I was the problem with my “son” and they knew I loved “him” and I just needed to know that my resistance to the idea that my daughter was actually my son would definitely lead to “him” killing “himself” and I wouldn’t want that in my conscience, right? All quiet and sing-song-y, although in a larger room, but me and a social worker and a nurse and the shrink had just left. I was prepared that this would happen — that I would be confronted that I wasn’t approving of transitioning my kid AND that professionals would play the suicide card. I was unprepared for how angry people who had zero knowlegde of the existence of my kid less than two days previous and their fake concern and feeling a need to immediately challenge me instead of requesting any other info made me.

I took a deep breath and asked, “Do you give this same talk to every other parent who has a suicidal kid? Tell them that if their daughter or son eventually succeeds at offing themselves it’s the fault of the parents? Hmmmmm?” The social worker visibly paled and you know, FUCK YOU LADY I HOPE YOU ARE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF EVERY DAY.

Anyway, joke was on her because this priming to believe a struggling KID over the adult at EVERY MOMENT is some bullshit. They brought my daughter in and as we discussed an outpatient placement and that I had already been talking to my kid’s therapist and shrink, my daughter then starts bouncing in her seat and talking excitedly a out going to the band Christmas concert.

I took another deep breath and said, “You know the rule about after school activities and missing school the day-of. Also, this has been a big crisis for our whole family. While this is not all about me, I am in no shape to have to sit among happy people for several hours pretending that I’m full of the holiday spirit. And, you don’t need to be there, either.”

My kid came UNGLUED and started screaming and swearing and ordered the social worker to MAKE ME take her to the Christmas concert. Then my kid tried to throw a chair and she got herself another 24 hours on the ward. Where she lied that we physically abused her to get back at us and could have had ALL our kids removed from our home.

Fuck these mental health workers. They’re literally know-nothing busybodies who reflexively believe whatever they’re told and seem to just take bullshit on-board reflexively

My ex alienated my daughter from me to such an extreme that the cognitive dissonance eventually landed her in a psych ward for a week. He vilified me to the extent of making her afraid to come to my home and convinced her that if she said she was suicidal, he could go to family court and get full custody of her, then he drove her to the ER and told her exactly what to say. When I was called in for a family meeting two days later and they asked her how she was doing, the first thing she said was "My bed is too hard and my pillow is too flat, I'm ready to go home now." They made her stay for a full week until she was good and convinced not to play the S card anymore and the treating psychiatrist, who had 30 years of experience with teenagers, actually told me that he didn't think she was truly suicidal, just being manipulative! She magically never mentioned self harm ever again after a week spent on a shitty adolescent psych ward lol. Kudos to you for not giving in to her demands. Kids need to learn that their choices have consequences.

I do feel sorry for your daughter that her own father set her up that way. Good for the psychiatrist, though.

[–] Estrojen 3 points Edited

Yes, it could not have turned out better. She rode that train to the last station and decided she didn't like it there. Two years later she told me she wanted to live with me full time and not spend time at her father's house anymore. She rarely sees him now. With time and maturity she figured out what a manipulative narcissist he is. I am a very grateful Mama.

Lying to get back at a parent seems to be not at all uncommon.

I knew a woman whose severely unwell son told health professionals she had molested him. For months when she visited she was met with evil stares but they still let her in. She had no idea what was going on, only that she'd done nothing and she believed he had not been abused.

Eventually he said it was not her who did it. It was his father. She hadnt known. Asked why he said it was his mother, he replied "because she didn't protect me".

Yeah, my daughter wasn't abused. She was abusing her sisters and threatened them that if they told their dad or me, she'd kill us.

It was a really big mess and we didn't know that was happening until she was out of our home and our other daughters believed that she wasn't coming back.

They’re literally know-nothing busybodies who reflexively believe whatever they’re told and seem to just take bullshit on-board reflexively

I'm sorry you, your daughter, and your family has been going through this. And you're right. I don't think mental health workers know enough about the scientific method, critical thinking, or how woo-saturated their entire field is. Seriously, the first thing you should know going into mental health is that it has a very bad history of being destructive.

And if you’re working with teens, you should know that they often feel incredibly strongly about things they didn’t know existed a week prior and won’t care about a week hence.

You are absolutely amazing for maintaining that level of composure. I can’t even imagine.

Their default seems to be that all parents are the villain. And no doubt some are, and no doubt they see the kids of those disproportionately, although I’d pay way more attention to kids with signs of physical or sexual abuse than confused gender issues, in terms of parents who are actually the problem. But you’re right, their default seems to be “your child is saying things that conform to the flow chart I got in a PD workshop last month, and on the basis of my 12 month MSW and the 45 minutes I spent speaking with your child in the past 36 hours, I’m here to tell you that I understand the fundamental essence of who your child is better than you. Now, is the issue that you don’t pay attention to your child’s needs, or you’re actively harming your child?”

Their default seems to be that all parents are the villain.

I genuinely wonder when this started. When I was a kid being abused by my parents (in the early-mid 00s) I was constantly told by mental health workers, social workers and teachers that I was lying and attention-seeking and hurting my parents because I was a bad kid. I wonder if that still happens to kids who don't ID as transgender? Is trans identity the only thing they are to be believed on, or is the default across the board that parents are the enemy?

I don't know exactly when/where it started, but identity politics/'wokism' is a big part of it. Look at Rotherham, after all. Anecdotally, I know middle class, usually white people (and I know of more such people) who were spoken to by the police for giving a child throwing a meltdown in the grocery store a single whack on a clothed bum (which I don't endorse, but come on) while parents from other ethnic backgrounds literally beat the hell out of their kids and it was ignored or "it's just their culture."

When we move away from considering individuals to be responsible for their actions, and towards considering them to be members of a class instead, this is where we end up. Beating a girl with a belt for speaking to a boy is abuse, full stop. It doesn't matter what skin tone, religion, or passport the parents have. Laying down sensible boundaries around your teen's clothing, social media use, and dating/sex life is not abuse, and it doesn't matter what the child's 'gender identity' is. But when, as in some countries, we're moving toward different sentencing guidelines based upon racial identification, or people seriously suggesting that the state cut non-trivial cheques to only some citizens based on their skin colour ... here we are.

It's important to consider obstacles and injustices people face because they are members of a sex class, racial or ethnolinguistic group, or religion. But they themselves should be judged on their actions, not held to a higher or lower standard because of what their group more broadly does.

[–] Aparallaxia 3 points Edited

Look at the various child abuse scandals in Britain starting in the 1970s and going on to the 2000s. In all of them the police and almost all social workers did not believe the kids. Lying, manipulative, on the game, on drugs, can't be believed. SWs who did believe were shunned and actively ostracised. I get the impression things have changed only since about 2010. Enough kids have been brave enough to come forward and say, they didn't believe me, the people who were supposed to protect me didn't do so ever, that the damn has finally broken. Another factor was the people became willing to risk being called "racist" b/c Muslim men have been running child abuse rings in several cities. Still are, they say.

I am very sorry that you weren't believed. SWs should at least be able to tell the difference between kids who are being manipulative and kids who are being genuinely traumatised.

[–] pennygadget 2 points Edited

I wonder if that still happens to kids who don't ID as transgender? Is trans identity the only thing they are to be believed on, or is the default across the board that parents are the enemy?

I would bet money that they only believe the kids 100% when the trans thing gets invoked. Not only because trans is trendy. But, in some states/countries, you might run afoul of anti conversion therapy laws if you don't immediately defer to the child the moment they declare a special gender identity

MSW is a two year graduate program and they are very well trained. They are, mostly, also very liberal and even if they aren't 'woke," if they try to rock the boat on gender issues can be fired and maybe even lose their licenses in blue states. Having said that, I know a lot of MSWs and mental health therapists who do NOT believe in medicalizing kids and who do risk their licenses telling the kids and their parents just that. Please don't generalize. It's unfair and inaccurate.

Please don't assume I'm talking about anyone other than the hacks who push transing :)

  1. You're one hell of a mom :)
  2. I don't know if I could have had it in me to respond as you did, but damn! Amazing on you.
  3. kids need boundaries and I have that exact same rule for my teenagers.
[–] Dee 9 points

I'm so sorry that this happened to you and your daughter.

How are you both doing now?

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[–] otterstrom 16 points Edited

Patient: “I am not eating so I can stay skinny and be more female.”

Doctor: “Well that makes a lot of sense.”

What the fuck? I’m less than one minute in and this is what I’m hit with. What the hell.

Ps The talking style, even sans context, of the first women is the most annoying speaking style it’s so so annoying it’s inauthentic and annoying and inauthentic and patronizing and I just want to make all of those speaking styles die forever

The talking style, even sans context, of the first women is the most annoying speaking style it’s so so annoying it’s inauthentic and annoying and inauthentic and patronizing and I just want to make all of those speaking styles die forever

YES! The disingenuous condescension is so annoying.

[–] Korok 👹 problem? 18 points

🥱 Always with the mom 🥱

I wonder if maybe, perhaps, by chance, possibly, just throwing this out there, that the mom is always the villain because she’s the easier one to pick on, and typically fathers, if they’re in the picture at all, are usually…neutral-uncaring at best. I can answer my own question: yes, the mom is easier to go after. I always did (and sometimes still do but I apologize and I’m going to die carrying that guilt), because my dad would beat the shit out of me when no one was around bc “lul I can”.

So, hmmm, maybe it’s like, idk, the mom's at fault for LiTeRaLlY everything??? Am I right or am I right.

And going up against Dad is much scarier. If Dad went Homie The Clown on them they wouldn't know what to do.

Whats most disturbing is that they're being instructed to treat the gender issues before (or in lieu of) treating the eating disorder. In the video, they prioritize brainwashing the mother into genderwoo before they even get that poor kid something to eat! Like, he just fainted from starving himself! And they're not getting him some food or a feeding tube or a smoothie or something!? WTF? Its like they believe pronouns and hormones can cure anorexia now!

And this is the most tragic thing about these trans kids. They're being told that medical transition will magically cure all their other mental health problems. And, after their bodies are destroyed, they're left with physically crippled bodies and all the pre-existing mental health issues are still there.

Also, its so fucked up that the boy says, "I starved myself to look like a skinny girl". And the doctor responds with, "That makes sense". NO! It does NOT make sense! Being emaciated isn't an intrinsic part of girlhood. And this stupid boy will still have a male physique even if he starves himself to death. But affirmation is such an intrinsic part of treating the gender-specials that you're not allowed to refute any stupid shit they say. So, when males claim that anorexia and giant fake balloon tits are "normal woman things", we have to smile and agree with them. Its maddening!

Instead of "that makes sense" she should have said "you'll just look like Iggy Pop."

in order to be taken seriously, the following things need to be verified:

  1. The name of the organization that made the video
  2. Hospitals which have purchased rights to the video and put it to use
  3. The names of the actors in the video

They were claimed to be from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia Gender Clinic website, but if you go to the link now, they appear to be taken down presumably bc there was such an uproar about it on twitter. It's the same thing that happened with the Vanderbilt website and Boston Children's Hospital...

CULT.

Also, not surprising to find that the pro-ana/pro-mia crap of 1990s Internet forums has gotten subsumed into this pro-mutilation ideology. After all, Dick Levine worked at an ED clinic before he went whole hog on promoting gender butchery and “transitioning” into Jabba the Hutt.

Then they all take "Janet," the mother, into a small, cramped room to talk to her.

Note that surrounding the mom in a physically tight space is part of how they do it. They're all on the side of the door and she's against the wall. Her seat is lower than theirs and they're all talking to her in babytalk voices. All eyes on her. If she wanted to leave she'd have to squeeze past them, which is intimidating. The hushed, barely there voices force her to strain herself to hear them.

It's to make her feel small, outnumbered, and stupid.

Rad fems, any thoughts?

My thoughts are that these are all female-pattern passive aggressive control techniques and you can learn to deflect them by acting a little more aggressive and direct.

Just one thing: anorexia isn't about thinking you're fat. Him starving himself to look more girly in no way rules out anorexia. Also, 10-15% who suffer from anorexia die. I would not call that extremely unlikely. Do not underestimate this disorder.

It's pretty rare in girls, and vanishingly rare in boys. And even among girls, it's limited to certain cultures and almost unheard in others.

This is an extremely unlikely scenario of anorexia.

Notice how, in this “communication” video, they don’t actually tell the viewer what information to actually give the mother. No “here’s how to explain what transgenderism actually is and how it is affecting her child, what are the causes, risks, complications, method of diagnosis, possible prognosis” or anything else doctors tell you in any other situation.

They’re telling the viewer how to manage and bully the mother, but not providing any info on what the doctors and nurses should be telling her.

Now why would that be? Could it possibly be because… there is no true definition of being transgender, let alone an actual verified method of diagnosis, the risks are uncertain, and the treatment is certainly harmful?

Maybe?

They’re pulling a fast one on the doctors and nurses watching this. The mother, although presented as “resistant”, actually isn’t at all. She is easily swayed by the pressure.

[–] FeminineMistake 10 points Edited

The thing that got me was that there are lots of reasons people faint, that have nothing to do with choosing not to eat. (There are far too many kids going hungry, and passing out is still pretty rare.) Any sensible approach would include asking for any recent head injuries, looking for signs of cardiac irregularities or posture related hypotension, blood work to look for serious vitamin deficiencies or metabolic disorders, testing for inner ear disorders that can cause poor balance and falling. Hell, I’d ask if he were bullied and shoved, and that’s why he fell over.

Now it’s possible that when they present this, they frame it as “we’ve already established there are no other biological or social causes of passing out than extreme low blood sugar caused by choosing not to eat.” But they’re also framing screening for “gender identity disorder” as a primary function of an ER for pity’s sake. Even if we cede that this is a genuine disorder (it’s not), it influences a minuscule proportion of the population, and almost none of them will end up in the ER. ERs should be screening for the most critical issues, and the ones most likely to be problems for their patients. A teen who ends up in the ER is mostly likely to be there for a car accident, substance abuse, a sports injury, an injury caused by child abuse, or an acute infection if they don’t have time to wait for a regular family doctor to see them. Those need to be the training priorities for ER staff, not this imaginary, extremely rare bullshit.

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