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One of the things I most hate about TRAs invading fandom spaces is their awful habit of taking a female character, who is tomboy-ish, or maybe wears more masculine clothes than your average female, and using their stereotypical and misogynistic views to declare that, if this character is able to fend for herself than surely, that means she is a transgender.

Their invasion of fandoms has been quite brutal over the years. Part of the reason I stopped participating. But it really gets me mad to go back every so often, only to see them doing this to my favorite characters.

I didn't want to get very specific with my interests, because I worry that they can be easily used to identify me. And god knows TRAs love their doxxing and blackmail. Be as specific as you'd like, though. Do you hate what they did to a certain character? What frustrates you the most?

One of the things I most *hate* about TRAs invading fandom spaces is their awful habit of taking a female character, who is tomboy-ish, or maybe wears more masculine clothes than your average female, and using their stereotypical and misogynistic views to declare that, if this character is able to fend for herself than surely, that means she is a transgender. Their invasion of fandoms has been quite brutal over the years. Part of the reason I stopped participating. But it really gets me mad to go back every so often, only to see them doing this to my favorite characters. I didn't want to get very specific with my interests, because I worry that they can be easily used to identify me. And god knows TRAs love their doxxing and blackmail. Be as specific as you'd like, though. Do you hate what they did to a certain character? What frustrates you the most?

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Threatening to kill my favorite children’s author and doing their best to deplatform her comes to mind

if you read HP fanfiction, the constant "jk is a TERF i promise trans rights" disclaimer makes me upset. my normal "circle" of authors seems to mostly refrain and avoids any weird gender specials in their work but if i step outside that its completely plagued.

Just unbelievably tired of seeing fan artists take canonically male characters in mlm ships and draw them as “t4t trans-mascs” with fucking top surgery scars. The whole appeal of mlm pairings is getting the romance without the misogynistic weird bullshit, stop making me look at butchered female bodies.

[–] immersang ★♫☆❉★♬☆ 22 points Edited

Yeah, this.

They also usually draw the characters in this completely dishonest way, i.e. the character will still 100% look like the male actor playing him (if we are talking live action), just with the mastectomy scars. Which adds to the misinformation of young, confused girls, who will think that this is what they can look like if they "transition". While in reality this won't suddenly make them a 6ft+ tall lanky dude with male proportions.

It's ACTUALLY disturbing. It has always pissed me off when people draw fanart, or art in general of characters with many self harm scars, and then fucking glamorize it with cutesy aesthetics and pastel colors. I'm an artist myself and I strongly believe that if done correctly, dark art can send a powerful message. But this... this is not the way. It is essentially promoting it to weak and malleable minds.

I personally see no difference between the TIF mastectomy scar art and what I mentioned above.

Agreed. And then artists will defend themselves by saying “I have these scars, and I like this character, so I wanted to draw them on this character to help me accept them being a part of me.” That’s great, good for you if it helps you, but keep it to your fucking self! You don’t need to post your personal catharsis where every impressionable 14 year old on the internet can find it and be influenced by it.

[–] Hera 10 points

Omg this.

I refuse to share or support any art showing characters redrawn with "top surgery scars" or other visible forms of self-harm.

Yes! This also even happens with real people, not just fictional characters. I was a bit perturbed the first time I stumbled upon fan art of a real-life male celebrity drawn as a TIF with mastectomy scars.

Yikes. I don’t interact with real-life-people fandoms so I’ve never seen that before, but that’s— I can’t imagine how uncomfortable that would be for the celebrity to stumble across that content lol

Seriously! As strange as it was for me, I can only imagine how unnerving it'd be to for the actual celebrity in question to see something like that!

Turning all lesbian characters into bi (for all men, not just TIM, because homosexual is not special enough) or turning a lesbian couple into woman x TIM.

Some of my favourite female characters are frequently turned into tRaNsGiRlS by the TIPs and handmaidens in my fandoms, just because they don't look like a pornified stereotype of womanhood.

That, and they also loooove to turn the more voluptuous ones that aren't simpering wallflowers into "dickgirls", because I guess women can't ever be independent and in control unless they've secretly got a dick! 🤡

This this this aaaaaaand this. This is my biggest gripe ever. Just let women be women for fuck's sake.

They "queer" any two people in a platonic friendship. It's irritating and makes them seem sex obsessed. Everything isn't about f**king.

This went on a LOT when the Lord of the Rings films came out. Can't have two men being best friends and emotional with one another, oh no. Gotta make 'em a gay couple. It was sometimes funny, but it was EVERYWHERE and it got old fast. I thought, "Wow, this is astonishingly homophobic, and it ain't that good for straight men either." Like they aren't emotionally stunted enough already.

But the same idiots who did that are undoubtedly pushing the trans thing today. Got the same vibe.

It's disturbing that people increasingly can't imagine emotional intimacy or deep, profound love not being contingent upon sexual attraction, or at least laced with it. And it ain't good for straight men. The masses of young, alienated, lonely men we so often hear about could benefit from cultivating close friendships with each other, but "no homo".

I love fandoms that have robots or magic and other things, and I'll never understand how the gender stuff gets involved when you can just magic your body however you want. In 'Detroit: Become Human' for example, the robots don't have genitals and they can change their appearance and body parts somewhat at will. For a couple years the trans stuff was ALL OVER, but I couldn't figure out why??? Why would a robot who can change their parts and appearance struggle with something like gender dysphoria? There is literally nothing to be dysphoric about at all. Supremely stupid concept.

Drives me up the wall when they take a canonical gay pairing and make one of them trans, especially when the character has a specific character arc about accepting themselves as attracted to the same sex. There are whole ass plot points about how x character is expected to date/marry the opposite sex and part if their journey is accepting that they're never going to be happy if they do that. They act like this wouldn't change at all if one character in the pair was in fact the opposite sex.

Fans were rightly taken to task for shipping canonically gay characters with the opposite sex, now it's okay if they toss in some gender woo. It feels as gross as game mods that let you change characters' sexualities.

Everything you just said, plus the general dumping of TRA shit into everything. "This character is trans, this character is NB, this character hates TERFS," etc.Wish everyone would shut up and stop throwing around meaningless headcanons, and just take art for what it is.

[–] BondiBlue 8 points Edited

It kind of reminds me of that trend that came about some years back where psych students or pop psychologists would diagnose cartoon characters with mental illnesses as an exercise, thus taking the fun out of the series (edit: and actually making a cruel cartoon caricature out of legitimate sufferers). Tigger had ADHD, Pooh Bear had Prader-Willi syndrome, Kanga and Roo had an unhealthy Freudian attachment (he's... a marsupial, of course he's literally attached to his mother), etc. etc. etc. They might still do that too (I imagine on the "self-diagnosis" segments of the Internet) but now they attach genderspecialness to fictional characters or "headcanons" too.

Bugs is non-bunnary, by the way, and Daffy goes daffy because he has a repressed attraction to "them".

Mainly the way otherwise brilliant fanfiction writers will randomly shove some trans preaching into a place it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

Yes! Or shove they/them pronouns into a fic in the most hamfisted way possible. You’ll be reading a scene where there are multiple characters at a party or something and just scratching your head trying to figure out when the “they” is singular or collective.

[–] immersang ★♫☆❉★♬☆ 6 points Edited

This is especially fun if the canon takes place during a time that this was not a thing.

I've recently seen someone they/them a character on fucking Stranger Things. 1980s canon.

(Although, I've got to say that generally, in that fandom, people seem not to do it as much. I'm not super deep in the fandom in the first place, but from what I've seen. Most seem to respect canon in that regard. I assume the ones doing it are mostly college kids and younger who are incapable of seeing past their current ideology.)

[–] danaseilhan 6 points Edited

I am a huge Supernatural fan, still am, but I used to follow Misha Collins (who played the angel Castiel) on social media because most of the time, he's a funny, quirky guy.

Until one day late in the show, maybe the final season, maybe the one just before, when he posted a pic of himself grinning like a gigantic asshole in front of what clearly used to be a women's restroom door on set but it had been covered over with an ALL GENDERS sticker with a trans symbol on it.

I remember asking whether they'd also done that to the men's restrooms, and then I noped out of there. Haven't had anything to do with him since.

What a prick, I actually noped out of Supernatural once season 5 finished as it felt like a good place to end it for me, narratively that is. This is why I never give a rat's ass about actors and just watch the movie/show, they really ruin it.

One thing I did learn about was the guy who play Sam is a tool, he apparently got drunk off his ass and made a scene. After that every interview he says he's "not that guy" and even alluded to being drugged because when "would never act like that". Anything but say you made a mistake. And the spinoff made by the guy who played Dean, whew boy what utter CW dog shit. Can't believe he thought that would be a successful show, where's the damn media savvy?

I was the same way with SN. I think I got about halfway through season six, realized wow this isn't good anymore, and then read online that the original roadmap of the show was to be 5 seasons long. Good enough reason then to stop!

Yeah read a lot about that myself, and honestly 15 seasons is too much and a cash grab. A show like General Hospital may have a premise that allows for that sort of ridiculous long run, but a show like Supernatural had no business going for so long.

What, he actually did this? Wow. Now I really lost all respect for him. I mean, I kinda knew that he was a gendie with his pronouns in the bio and everything. But I did have some hope because he still uses words like "women's rights" (bare minimum, I know). But the restroom thing is either completely stupid or evil.

[–] jvsmine 10 points Edited

I will probs comment again later but currently the biggest annoyance is Potter fans transing Sirius Black.

They say he'd non binary or genderqueer and prefers they/them pronouns and is uncomfortable being called "dude" or "brother" by James at any point. it's so fucking stupid. It was pretty agreed upon in the fandom that Sirius Black was bisexual (Wolfstar is a huge thing) but of course the blue-and-pink hairs had to do something to ruin that

edit to add: oh!!! and recently The Batman movie fandom! oh good god. apparently Batman and the Riddler are uwu transgirls and Catwoman is UGGGAAAAAA big manly transmasc. Everyone in the Batfamily is genderqueer or trans. it's so fuckin weird.

Those bastards are going after Sirius Black? Wish they would get their grubby hands off my favorite character :(

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