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I thought I would make a little post talking about the demonstration I went to last saturday. It was a radfem demo in Berlin, Germany organised mostly by the group Radfem Berlin.

The demo had been planned and announced for a while, keeping the exact location and time secret as long as possible. However as soon as TRAs got word they organised a counter demo close to us. As soon as we made our way to the location of our demo on saturday we were greeted with posters saying 'TERFs fuck off'. Photo

We ended up being somewhere around 90 women. Sheila Jeffreys was there as well as people from GetTheLOutUK, and some known German radfems. Anyone who wanted to speak at the demo had to register beforehand and so we got a number of interesting speeches from various angles. Some about Self ID and its dangers, some about sexual abuse and grooming within trans groups, some about prostitution and the nordic model. We and the counter demo were both being watched by police with about 7 police people standing close to us. The counter demo was at the opposite end of the park we were in, we could only vaguely see them but heard them shouting at times (of course overwhelmingly male voices). Some of them also came towards us at various points to stand close to us and take pictures, but we ignored them and they luckily didn't try to disturb us. Towards the end of the demo we all took each others hands and got in a circle, which resulted in a cool photo.

Since none of us went to the counter demo of course, we can't really know what they spoke about. We just know that apparently they were around 100-120 people so slightly more than us. But I found this great photo of their group. Please pay attention especially to the man holding up a sign saying 'Blow jobs are better than no jobs'.

At one point the police told the organiser that one of us had gone over to the counter demo and physically attacked them. Later we learned that this was in fact a TIM who is against self ID and had gone to the counter demo to discuss with them and got into some kind of altercation there, but had no relation to our group whatsoever. Ironically the TRA side immediately considered him a 'TERF' and on social media continued to spread the lie that it had been a TERF from our group who did this.

At some point towards the end of our time there, three young women drove by us on bikes and threw eggs as well as shouting something noone really understood. Luckily they did not manage to hit anyone and only one egg even burst (harmlessly on the ground). But I bet they felt great about themselves. Police seemed to take it seriously as an attack on us nonetheless and afaik they managed to arrest one of them at least. You can see the hilarious egg throw here.

Afterwards we went to eat and drink together, completely harmlessly. That of course didnt stop the TRAs from speculating wildly, such as warning their side that we would be roaming the streets with 'intent to eliminate' as if we were a rabid group of violent women seeking a TIM to jump and beat up or something.

Anyway, just thought I would give you all a little report. It was the first time I met a larger number of GC/radfem women in real life and it's definitely a motivating experience.

I thought I would make a little post talking about the demonstration I went to last saturday. It was a radfem demo in Berlin, Germany organised mostly by the group Radfem Berlin. The demo had been planned and announced for a while, keeping the exact location and time secret as long as possible. However as soon as TRAs got word they organised a counter demo close to us. As soon as we made our way to the location of our demo on saturday we were greeted with posters saying 'TERFs fuck off'. [Photo](https://twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1573622847435595777) We ended up being somewhere around 90 women. Sheila Jeffreys was there as well as people from GetTheLOutUK, and some known German radfems. Anyone who wanted to speak at the demo had to register beforehand and so we got a number of interesting speeches from various angles. Some about Self ID and its dangers, some about sexual abuse and grooming within trans groups, some about prostitution and the nordic model. We and the counter demo were both being watched by police with about 7 police people standing close to us. The counter demo was at the opposite end of the park we were in, we could only vaguely see them but heard them shouting at times (of course overwhelmingly male voices). Some of them also came towards us at various points to stand close to us and take pictures, but we ignored them and they luckily didn't try to disturb us. Towards the end of the demo we all took each others hands and got in a circle, which resulted in a [cool photo](https://imgur.com/a/PeKs8V7). Since none of us went to the counter demo of course, we can't really know what they spoke about. We just know that apparently they were around 100-120 people so slightly more than us. But I found [this great photo](https://imgur.com/a/tA4LnKT) of their group. Please pay attention especially to the man holding up a sign saying 'Blow jobs are better than no jobs'. At one point the police told the organiser that one of us had gone over to the counter demo and physically attacked them. Later we learned that this was in fact a TIM who is against self ID and had gone to the counter demo to discuss with them and got into some kind of altercation there, but had no relation to our group whatsoever. Ironically the TRA side immediately considered him a 'TERF' and on social media continued to spread the lie that it had been a TERF from our group who did this. At some point towards the end of our time there, three young women drove by us on bikes and threw eggs as well as shouting something noone really understood. Luckily they did not manage to hit anyone and only one egg even burst (harmlessly on the ground). But I bet they felt great about themselves. Police seemed to take it seriously as an attack on us nonetheless and afaik they managed to arrest one of them at least. You can see the hilarious egg throw [here](https://twitter.com/TyrannXX/status/1573712606610743296). Afterwards we went to eat and drink together, completely harmlessly. That of course didnt stop the TRAs from speculating wildly, such as warning their side that we would be roaming the streets with 'intent to eliminate' as if we were a rabid group of violent women seeking a TIM to jump and beat up or something. Anyway, just thought I would give you all a little report. It was the first time I met a larger number of GC/radfem women in real life and it's definitely a motivating experience.

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End trans_misogyny

They had to add the underscore so nobody misinterprets the banner as wanting to end the trans type of misogyny.

The ridiculous thing is that 99% of people don't want, and are not even aware of, this shite. They are just living their lives, working their jobs, taking care of their families. Their concerns are helping their kids in school, walking their dogs, taking family members to the doctor, stopping at the grocery store, finding something fun to do on the weekend. Who the hell are these losers who actually have the time to rally against women's rights?

Who the hell are these losers who actually have the time to rally against women's rights?

MRAs

[–] ProMoleratWaxer #1 Worst Poster 15 points

Planning T/MRA Meetup

"Ok first we need to have evidence of women being violent to us, do we have some TERFS trafficking our child transwomen sisters/sons, or serial murdering them,"

"No that was us..so...that options out"

"Ok we'll just ignore that and try and bait them into blasphemy (literal violence) we have a lot of ugly single men here we need some percieved prosecution or internal basis to radicalise them"

"Going with feminazis"

"Right. Consistent like the last 5 centuries - do they do anything Nazi like"

"They don't let you do what you want. They bully the cosmetic and sex trade industries, and gasp think the patriachy is a thing, which they aim to solve materially. They also don't believe in our true Lord and Christ genderborg who bestows feminine fetuses (women) with the instinctual urge to exist in a lower social caste"

"Eliminating the social castes and atheism is facism got it, do you think our followers will notice we're lying to them or do-"

"They don't think, look. They can barely spell on their signs and one of our members is screaming at a baby for heresy, we can tell them anything and they will give us money, they're always 10 seconds away from killing people again."

"Right, we need to co-ordinate the protest time around peoples employment and family obligations"

*no one has those, we've made sure"

Thank you for posting and for the photos! Lovely to see women standing up for women.

If anything went even remotely wrong, of course the "TERFs" would be blamed. Even when the person starting the confrontation is not linked to you 🙄

The egg throw is funny. The author in me wants to view it in a deeply symbolic and silly way - young women trying to throw away their femaleness (represented by eggs) in defence of men...

and on bicycles too as they are probably too young to ride motorbikes, ask them about chickens and they probably don't even know a egg is a menstruation by product.

[–] Tiramisuomi 19 points Edited

roaming the streets with 'intent to eliminate' as if we were a rabid group of violent women seeking a TIM to jump and beat up or something.

That's what's hilarious - they seem to think we're made of a lot tougher stuff, much like the men who are responsible for all known murders of trans women.

I'm sure I'm not even close to the only one here who would have someone laughed out of the room if they called me threatening-looking.

Are there any actual cases of radical feminists physically attacking or threatening a trans person? I've looked and looked, can't find a one

[–] Jacknife 14 points Edited

They have this weird auto-propaganda feedback loop it goes like this:

  1. They tell this ridiculous lie about Terfs being violent and dangerous (intentional lie since they do not believe that themselves)
  2. Most who hear this know this a lie but go along with it since it benefits their Agenda, the rest eats it up
  3. Now people tell the same lie again some of them now believe it themselves
  4. Back to 2. only that now more and more people now believe it themselves

On hand this kind of propaganda works, on the other it alienates them from normal people who might see the discrepancy. I do not know yet if this will work out for them.

its called projecting, they are all angry narcs, they want to roam the streets and beat up those who wont do what they want.

You'd think the women were a roving band of maenads with the way TRAs are acting. Anyway, the event seems like it was a rip-roaring good time. I'm a bit jealous that I wasn't there.

What does blow jobs are better than no jobs have to do with this? Is he trying to imply “terfs” don’t have jobs…or (and?) don’t give blow jobs? Mostly serious question lol

The demo was not only about trans issues, it was a radfem demo in general. The topics also included Nordic model for example. The counter demo was organized by a pro sex work group. So a while there were TRAs showing up, a lot of counter protesters were also pro sex work people

I wanted to be there. I even already bought my train ticket to Berlin but I ended up getting sick so I couldn't come :(

I did see some footage of a speech and pictures though and it seems like it was a great demo!

Very glad the police kept the two sides far apart so both could be heard. I wish the police in the UK would learn that lesson. Instead we have TIPs shouting in women's faces, using bullhorns to drown out their voices from 3' away... and of course women don't do that to them so only one side suffers.

We're in an energy crisis that's disproportionately hitting the poorest who already struggle to feed their families. Solution: throw EDIBLE FOOD at a group of women.

Wow, those egg throwers look absolutely pathetic.

Love the photo of everyone holding hands in a circle!

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