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Latest example is Kate 'Chase' Strangio:

https://twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1574369228626563075?s=20&t=OKTfXOaw-MtRoGE18rqtNw

I had top surgery 13 years ago. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t think about how it was the best thing I have ever done for my survival. I also had orthopedic knee surgery at 14 and often regret it. But no NYTs pieces about orthopedic regret I see.

This tweet is at 46 000 likes so far. I honestly can't believe how people can be so dumb. In the case of knee surgeries there's a real physical problem. In the case of trans procedures there's no problem. Zero. It's all in their head and it's mainly about beauty. When doing a knee surgery the goal is to fix the problem because the knee doesn't function properly. When doing trans body modifications, the goal is to modify the body in a way that the patient customer desires because of a fetish/trauma/internalised homophobia/misogyny etc. There's nothing medical about it. This is not healthcare. Implying your healthy female body is so terrible you can't survive unless it's mutilated is peak misogyny and also offensive to people with real life-threatening diseases. Trans "care" is nothing more than a body mutilation cult fueled by misogyny and homophobia. But Strangio goes on, this thread no doubt was written in support of teenage girls having their breast amputated:

Pediatric ACL surgery is very common, particularly for athletes in girls’ sports who are not supported in strength training. It comes with a lifetime of potential complications. Many surgeries do. And yet this is how medicine works

Meanwhile we hear about an “explosion” in trans care. But so much of the need was always there we just had no access to treatment. I spent years trying to access top surgery had to travel across the country for care and paid for it with student loans.

When I woke up from knee surgery, I felt like my body was mutilated, I felt depressed and disembodied and have had to spend decades working to regain strength and have had two subsequent knee surgeries.

By contrast, my top surgery had no complications and enabled my life to be full and free. I am alive because of that care. I would give almost anything to have had access to it earlier.

Trans people and those who care for us are under tremendous threat. We are having all the wrong conversations and I fear for what that means for the many people who have a medical need that has exposed the fear of how powerful bodily autonomy can be.

No shit, there are certainly some very disturbed people on this planet who will be happy to have parts of their bodies amputated or damaged. That doesn't mean we should mutilate them. The vast majority of people who identify as trans would never have developed a trans identity or even gender dysphoria if not for the normalisation and popularisation of transgenderism. And in the rare cases where the gender confusion occurs from a young age, it always proves to stem from sexism or homophobia. There are zero people on this planet born in the wrong body. I'm so fucking tired of this cult.

Latest example is Kate 'Chase' Strangio: https://twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1574369228626563075?s=20&t=OKTfXOaw-MtRoGE18rqtNw > I had top surgery 13 years ago. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t think about how it was the best thing I have ever done for my survival. I also had orthopedic knee surgery at 14 and often regret it. But no NYTs pieces about orthopedic regret I see. This tweet is at 46 000 likes so far. I honestly can't believe how people can be so dumb. In the case of knee surgeries there's a real physical problem. In the case of trans procedures there's no problem. Zero. It's all in their head and it's mainly about beauty. When doing a knee surgery the goal is to fix the problem because the knee doesn't function properly. When doing trans body modifications, the goal is to modify the body in a way that the ~~patient~~ customer desires because of a fetish/trauma/internalised homophobia/misogyny etc. There's nothing medical about it. This is not healthcare. Implying your healthy female body is so terrible you can't survive unless it's mutilated is peak misogyny and also offensive to people with real life-threatening diseases. Trans "care" is nothing more than a body mutilation cult fueled by misogyny and homophobia. But Strangio goes on, this thread no doubt was written in support of teenage girls having their breast amputated: > Pediatric ACL surgery is very common, particularly for athletes in girls’ sports who are not supported in strength training. It comes with a lifetime of potential complications. Many surgeries do. And yet this is how medicine works > Meanwhile we hear about an “explosion” in trans care. But so much of the need was always there we just had no access to treatment. I spent years trying to access top surgery had to travel across the country for care and paid for it with student loans. > When I woke up from knee surgery, I felt like my body was mutilated, I felt depressed and disembodied and have had to spend decades working to regain strength and have had two subsequent knee surgeries. > By contrast, my top surgery had no complications and enabled my life to be full and free. I am alive because of that care. I would give almost anything to have had access to it earlier. > Trans people and those who care for us are under tremendous threat. We are having all the wrong conversations and I fear for what that means for the many people who have a medical need that has exposed the fear of how powerful bodily autonomy can be. No shit, there are certainly some very disturbed people on this planet who will be happy to have parts of their bodies amputated or damaged. That doesn't mean we should mutilate them. The vast majority of people who identify as trans would never have developed a trans identity or even gender dysphoria if not for the normalisation and popularisation of transgenderism. And in the rare cases where the gender confusion occurs from a young age, it always proves to stem from sexism or homophobia. There are zero people on this planet born in the wrong body. I'm so fucking tired of this cult.

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Alright. I have to call horseshit here.

I have had the exact surgery Chase is swearing is terrible and causes lifelong medical patient status.

No. Not that it's impossible but its not common. Full ACL tears happen, I wasn't even in sport but an accident.

Yes, the way they fix it for young adults and under is a difficult thing to deal with. Yes you will have a big scar

No, its not really optional that young unless you want to have no knee function when you are older

No it does not have a high rate of failure. Physical therapy is required but you are not going to spend decades getting back your abilities unless you were like a peak performance ballerina or something.

It happens to college level athletes all the time. I shared my pt time slot with a couple. They worked harder and recovered faster. Most of them have surgery and return to the field. Do they have a lot of dedicated attention and PT sure but its not always even a career ender at the pro level.

Nothing is 100 percent and im not going to say all medical surgeries are even good ideas but this is the most insane comparison ever. A number of knee surgeries are pretty bad ideas.

But how you wind up with lifelong regret and medical status and multiple surgeries for an acl replacement when you are young I genuinely do not know unless you are exceptionally unlucky or have a shitty surgeon.

Or....something else is going on and you're basically telling half truths to make it sound like it's more of a reasonable comparison than it is.

Also ACL tears are easily validated by an MRI. There's a fuzzy line of worth fixing or not if incomplete, but for a complete tear it won't heal (barring newer developments in stem cells and such that did not exist for Strangio or myself at that age)

What a fucking crackpot.