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I’m very much of the mind that I want to mind my own business and be left alone.

I might be interested in the human behavior aspects, but I only really feel the need to get involved if it effects me, or harms others.

So gender affirming care is tricky. Do I let them at it and just mind my own business? Or do they need to be protected from themselves bc they’re sick? I don’t know. Especially since the APA changed it’s mind about people absolutely obsessing over gender and mutilating themselves being a disorder in the DSM-5.

But the arguments from the transgender community themselves seem to be giving me most of my reasons to vote against it.

Are transwomen women? Yes. Apparently, there’s no difference between men and women.

Is it fair for transwomen to play against biological women in sports? Yes. Apparently, puberty blockers make absolutely no difference as long as the transwoman has been taking hormones for a few months prior to playing.

Do minors need gender affirming care, like puberty blockers and surgery? Yes. Bc men and women are so different, and puberty blockers will make all the difference in the world so they can appear more biological women like when they’re older.

So which is it? The same people argue the same contradictions. The claims change based on when it suits them.

So which are we supposed to believe? It can’t be all three at the same time.

These same people are trying to cancel biology being taught in schools… How can that be of sound mind?

I’m very much of the mind that I want to mind my own business and be left alone. I might be interested in the human behavior aspects, but I only really feel the need to get involved if it effects me, or harms others. So gender affirming care is tricky. Do I let them at it and just mind my own business? Or do they need to be protected from themselves bc they’re sick? I don’t know. Especially since the APA changed it’s mind about people absolutely obsessing over gender and mutilating themselves being a disorder in the DSM-5. But the arguments from the transgender community themselves seem to be giving me most of my reasons to vote against it. Are transwomen women? Yes. Apparently, there’s no difference between men and women. Is it fair for transwomen to play against biological women in sports? Yes. Apparently, puberty blockers make absolutely no difference as long as the transwoman has been taking hormones for a few months prior to playing. Do minors need gender affirming care, like puberty blockers and surgery? Yes. Bc men and women are so different, and puberty blockers will make all the difference in the world so they can appear more biological women like when they’re older. So which is it? The same people argue the same contradictions. The claims change based on when it suits them. So which are we supposed to believe? It can’t be all three at the same time. These same people are trying to cancel biology being taught in schools… How can that be of sound mind?

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Speaking about the US here.

I doubt the government should be involved in directly legislating medical “care” for adults in this case. It should probably be up to the various medical governing bodies. They are dropping the ball right now and harming many, and I think this will only be rectified, eventually, via lawsuits.

However, the government absolutely should not be requiring or paying for these unproven treatments. And it may be necessary to legislate against the medicalization of minors for their protection.

I doubt the government should be involved in directly legislating medical “care” for adults in this case

I agree that the government should not directly dictate medical "care" for adults in most/many cases. But the US federal and state governments through federal agencies such as HHS, FDA, CDC, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Department of Defense, ACA, and of course the NIH and all the state agencies that regulate hospitals and doctors are very involved in setting the standards for medical care for adults.

The USA's NIH is one of the major culprits behind the development of the gender medicine industry because NIH is the world's single biggest funder of medical research - and NIH has greenlit and funded tons of dodgy studies and practices. NIH is a major funder and promoter "pediatric gender medicine."

Great points. I admit I’m not that well educated in this space and was speaking more in generalities. I’d definitely say these institutions should be reigned in. It’s unclear to me how that can happen though. :/ Seems like our entire medical system here is just a wealth transfer from taxpayers to private corporations.

I think that finding and releasing the profits that they make off of these people is one way. These are not cheap procedures. A gender affirming doctor stands to make a huge amount of money.

I can easily see why there’s so many pissed off people in the UK, having to pay taxes for the NHS to cover these cosmetic procedures, while women don’t get to have asymmetrical breasts fixed, or new breasts if they had cancer, laser hair removal if they have PCOS, etc. But male-women get to get it all for free on their dime.