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I’m a liberal, so I run into a lot of these way more than I’d like. My own family member is one. They’re all the same, deep down they hate women and POC.

They’re all about performative allyship, but with plenty of double standards and other assorted hypocrisy.

Anytime there’s a conservative woman they don’t like, the first thing they do is attack how she looks instead of what she did that they don’t like. It’s just so progressive, right?

They eat up issues about POC, but manage to use it to whore out for attention for themselves. They ride that shit when it trends and conveniently forget about it again the minute it stops. They call names and bully. They entrench people in their dislike of the marginalized groups the wokeboys are screwing over.

And why is this post on gender critical? I’m getting to it.

How women should and are allowed to feel and think about trans women is their latest talking point. I mean, how would we even know if we didn’t have a man to tell us what to think?

Honey, you did not grow up as a little girl. You got to get picked for football, you were told you were going to be a doctor instead of a house wife, you got to be loud, adventurous, and do whatever the fuck you wanted bc no one was telling you that “nice little girls don’t behave like that”. And when you were truly awful, it was just “boys will be boys”.

They have fuck all to do with being a woman, or being a transwoman either for that matter, but they’re suddenly authorities on the subject? And need to police us?

They don’t even know the half of it.

They’re not going to get hurt playing against transmen in sports, they don’t have to preyed on by other men as much as women do, they don’t lose their scholarships, and obtain female spokespersons for men everywhere, and so on and so forth, but we do.

Their opinions have zero relevance to us.

Just shut the fuck up and stay in your lane, wokeboys.

I’m a liberal, so I run into a lot of these way more than I’d like. My own family member is one. They’re all the same, deep down they hate women and POC. They’re all about performative allyship, but with plenty of double standards and other assorted hypocrisy. Anytime there’s a conservative woman they don’t like, the first thing they do is attack how she looks instead of what she did that they don’t like. It’s just *so* progressive, right? They eat up issues about POC, but manage to use it to whore out for attention for themselves. They ride that shit when it trends and conveniently forget about it again the minute it stops. They call names and bully. They entrench people in their dislike of the marginalized groups the wokeboys are screwing over. And why is this post on gender critical? I’m getting to it. How women should and are allowed to feel and think about trans women is their latest talking point. I mean, how would we even know if we didn’t have a man to tell us what to think? Honey, you did not grow up as a little girl. You got to get picked for football, you were told you were going to be a doctor instead of a house wife, you got to be loud, adventurous, and do whatever the fuck you wanted bc no one was telling you that “nice little girls don’t behave like that”. And when you were truly awful, it was just “boys will be boys”. They have fuck all to do with being a woman, or being a transwoman either for that matter, but they’re suddenly authorities on the subject? And need to police us? They don’t even know the half of it. They’re not going to get hurt playing against transmen in sports, they don’t have to preyed on by other men as much as women do, they don’t lose their scholarships, and obtain female spokespersons for men everywhere, and so on and so forth, but we do. Their opinions have zero relevance to us. Just shut the fuck up and stay in your lane, wokeboys.

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[–] Hera 47 points

Legit had to say "yes" to allowing a TIM to submit his work to a lesbian project I'm working on all because he asked me in a discord of over half a thousand hard-left folks, so there was no way I could safely say no without facing a dogpile of shit. Very calculated on his part, but I'm still gonna reject his contributions even if I find them artistically satisfactory.

A small act of rebellion, but ffs i hate wokebros. It's not lost to me that I (a woman) would face the mob by telling him (a white man asking to create something about heterosexual sex for a lesbian project) the simple word "no".

Isn't it amazing how straight White dudes found a way to place themselves at the top of the Oppression Totem Pole in virtually every left wing space?

A conservative man tries to hide the fact he watches porn out of shame. A wokebro is open about how much porn he watches, because he believes women are empowered by how much he judges them for their T&A.

This is literally the only difference between them.

these men expose how little they think of women when they “believe” porn is empowering to us

Ugh. The wokebros. It's like high school. You think that the punk rock/goth boys will be so much cooler, because they like the same music that you do! Then when you get to know them, you'll find that many have the same ideas about women that the Conservative football playing jocks do.

[–] friedparata 4 points Edited

fr when i was in high school i thought the metalheads were so much cooler because their music taste was "good" (15 year old me was a metal elitist lol). but I was also a pick me girl back then.

but later I started seeing how openly misogynistic metalheads and the metal community are. no male vocalist's growls get sexualised in the comments to the degree that I've seen men sexualize Tatiana Shmaylyuk's vocals.

and of course, there are the assholes who always ask "oh you're wearing a metal shirt, name three songs". and how they accuse every single attractive woman playing guitar of faking it for male attention.

no wonder almost every female metalhead had a pick me phase, myself included. I felt like a special one for not being like the other girls who listened to pop music, and felt threatened whenever there was another girl who listened to metal. BUT, i was also bisexual so I was also attracted to them, which was really fun to deal with. /s

and this is just the fans. we're not even gonna talk about the musicians who often cheat on their wives (cough, David Ellefson and James Hetfield), and cheating is so normalized, they just say "oh it's just rock and roll, it's expected."

ughhh my brother-in-law is a wokebro. it is so ridiculous, he acts so smug and intelligent, telling me I need to re-educate myself.. it's nauseating but in a way, makes me feel better, knowing I will never be as stupid as him (:

[–] Lilith-Fair 33 points Edited

Next time tell him to re-educate himself and stop mansplaining. Wokebros get bothered by the word "mansplaining". It forces them to look in the mirror. Oh and tell him unless he would sleep with one then he needs to STFU. And don't let him weasel out by saying he's married. That's not the point and he knows it.

I like to nod enthusiatically and then say something incongruous like 'yep, yep, Dunning Kruger!'. Or 'its like people who can't see that what they know isnt all there is to know, right!'' Watch their expression as they try to compute what you just said.

Ugh, I did that once with the sports argument and even more performative white wokegirls decided on behalf of all womenkind that we all love losing our sports to men.

Tell these wokegirls they don't get to decide for all other women athletes. They have no rights. Then shame them for taking away athletic scholarships from minorities who otherwise cannot afford college.

He sounds fun.

My dad was talking about the NB crazy from DOE who stole the suitcase bc my dad works for DOE. My wokebro called him a bigot and ranted at him bc my dad called that man “he” instead of “they”.

So my dad really dug in, bc that’s what you make people do with that bullying. First he legitimately forgot to use plural bc how the fuck do you even get used to using plural for one person? But then he said he calls it like he sees it, and he sees a man.

This is a 70+ year old man. Imagine what the whole climate is like for him. Hell, most of us on here are much younger and still can’t make sense of wtf is going on.

Literally every male (okay, fine the vast majority) at my university was the most sickening type of wokebro. Same dudes were rape apologists and constantly on the lookout to virtue signal.

You don't have to add a "not all men" qualifier here lol. We got you.

Thanks queen <3 I just do have one fantastic male friend left over from university, he’s one of the funniest people I’ve ever met. Decided to exclude him from the rest!

So many women, LGB, POC, disabled, etc find out about this ‘allyship’ as soon as they hold a view that doesn’t toe the line

Countless POC who are conservative will tell you that so called lefties eill gladly use racial slurs on them for being right leaning

Like by being a POC they are not allowed to disagree like white men can

Arguing with a conservative is one thing. Doubling down harsh on a POC is another

‘We can be b*tches and they encourage VAWAG for wrongthink

They've set up a perfect system. In wokebros I've personally known, they've often flirted with the alt-right or incel communities before seeing the supposed light. How happy they were to discover that as long as someone "deserves it", they can threaten and bully women while looking absolutely heroic. Here they were about to engage in the ordinary, bad kind of misogyny like suckers!

How happy they were to discover that as long as someone "deserves it", they can threaten and bully women while looking absolutely heroic. Here they were about to engage in the ordinary, bad kind of misogyny like suckers!

And trans dogma has widely expanded the numbers of women who "deserve it".

My first semester of college I met this guy in my program. He was attractive, smart, talented, and a textbook WokeBro. He wore shirts that said “consent is sexy” and other woke phrases. He led the conversation about women’s rights, LGBT matters, publicly admonished men for their urges and talked about how shameful it was that men made women uncomfortable (all while being sexual with me when he knew I had a boyfriend).

Anyway, when our mutual friend R came out as a TIM, he immediately referred to R as female, created this sort of oppression hierarchy between us where I, as a “cis” female was lower than R, and as such had to do things for him. I now see that their goal was to turn me into R’s personal feminization assistant, and they frequently made sure I knew I was less than R. Ex: they compared R wearing sweaters to hide his very minuscule breast development to the years of harassment I’ve faced for being big breasted, insisting I couldn’t understand this uniquely trans struggle.

It’s really fucking creepy thinking back on it and realizing that he only befriended me to give his fetishist best friend a victim, and I’m glad I ended both of those friendships and escaped with my dignity.

TL;DR WokeBros suck and intentionally put women in danger.

Their opinions have zero relevance to us.

When has a lack of knowledge or relevance ever stopped a man from giving his opinion?

This is true about all men, not just wokebros. 90% of the time they’re talking they shouldn’t be. I find smiling, nodding, acting agreeable to skip through the dialogue is very effective and then you can get back to the real shit faster.

Woke Bros are part of the reason I joined the Tea Party movement when I was young. I worked at a leftie non-profit for a while and I was surrounded by them. One particularly memorable encounter was a male co-worker who responded to a news story about some local teenage pro-life activist with, "It would serve her right if she got raped and had to keep the baby!".

And I worked there right around the Obama/McCain election. So I also got subjected to "male feminists" going on about "Palin's slutty pregnant daughter". And, of course, 90% of their criticisms of Palin were her being a bimbo and not anything she actually did/said. And they seemed to think it was impossible for them to be sexist because they supported the Black guy running for president 🙄

The current trans fad has really allowed dudes like this to let their misogyny fly. Before, woke bros generally had to limit their worst vitriol to conservative women. But now, they have carte blanche to throw slurs/abuse at liberal women (and children) who refuse to bow down to men in dresses. Not to mention the freedom to put on a dress themselves and try and guilt lesbians into fucking them

I have asked white woke men who try to explain to me what is or isn't sexism or how women should feel about something is if they do the same thing to people of different races. I am sure they wouldn't dare try to explain to a person of color what is or isn't racism and how they should feel about the every day racism they do experience. Who am I as a white woman to tell a black person how they should feel about Rachel Dolezal appropriating their race?

[–] [Deleted] 🦇 26 points

Couldn't agree more. I've gotten into a few fights with my boyfriend over this. He's pretty far gone into that camp. I even went as far as trying to tell him about autogynephilia, and his initial reaction was "Well what's wrong with that, if that's why they want to transition?" Of course men always defend other men's perversions, it's so frustrating. He does suspect I'm at least a little terfy, but I think he'd rather not think about it. I wish he'd listen to me on this one. Warning to others that penetrating the trans wokeness can really feel insurmountable at times.

Do you really want to spend your precious time with such a loser? Walking on eggshells? With a guy who says "AGP is a valid reason to transition" (um helllooo? Check his hard drive and search history, sounds porn addicted)?

Please don't waste your valuable time and energy on a man who is sucked into this crap. YOU are more important.

[–] [Deleted] 🦇 1 points

You offer some good advice. But he really is a very nice man, and I think that's partially at issue here. He's in the habit of being accepting and tolerant and understanding. These are usually good things for a man to have, and I've just had difficulty getting him to formulate an exception to the rule. We've been together for 7 years, and he hasn't hit me once, which is refreshing. Besides, around here, almost every guy is gonna be some similar flavor of woke. Plus there are very many trans people in our friend circle. He's gonna feel like he betrays them if he accepts GC viewpoints. I'm just up against a lot here, I don't think that means I leave him over it.

We've been together for 7 years, and he hasn't hit me once, which is refreshing.

I'm not saying dump him, because disagreement on political issues doesn't have to be a dealbreaker in a relationship... but I just want to point out that this here is a horrifically low bar for a romantic partner, friend, anything. I hope it was very tongue-in-cheek and he has good qualities and brings joy to you. "He hasn't hit me once" should be like one of the bottom baseline bare minimum standards that means you're willing to even consider dating someone. I've been married for over ten years and my husband has never hit me but it never would have occurred to me to list that as one of his good aspects, because if he had hit me he wouldn't be my husband anymore. I assume you've had very bad experiences with abusive men and I hope you know you can set the bar far, far higher than those abusive men. Only you know what your relationship with him is like, but I hope you aren't staying with him just because he hasn't hit you and other men have.

His question is valid. What's wrong with that? Tell him. Your right to engage in your fetish ends where my rights begin. And under no circumstances should your fetish be enshrined in civil rights law.

[–] [Deleted] 🦇 8 points

Yeah, I think that's probably what the next conversation on the topic is going to look like. At the time, I was just surprised that he didn't get it right away. I think I muttered, "I can't believe you think that's ok." And that was the end if it. But, I'm armed with more knowledge now, so that next convo is likely to go deeper, as you said.

This kind of dude rarely changes his mind because he has to be the most progressive one in the room. You’re not going to change his mind, and don’t waste your precious energy trying. If you needed a sign this guy is a short term bf, this is it. Stop wasting your time and breath arguing with willful ignorance, and certainly don’t reward misogyny with sex. Time to go sis.

Omg, yes. The “one up” woke game, I call it.

These people spend more time attacking people on their own side than the opposition. And over the stupidest little things.

I remember there was a school assignment where the teacher asks them to write about where their ancestors came from. Great, right? Develop some sympathy and empathy during a time when nationalism is rearing it’s ugly head.

Except this teacher got raked over the coals as basically a Nazi bc one student was a descendant of slaves and the assignment didn’t say “Where were your ancestors taken from?”. The mom obviously filled in snarky replies and “corrected” the wording on the assignment for the child, posted it on social media, and the woke shared the hell out of it.

Who has the amazing foresight to do every good deed perfectly?

It’s like they get off on punishing people for even trying to do the right things.

Why is this person your boyfriend?

[–] Tq231442 Cervix owner 8 points

There's no point scolding her lmao. If this young lady is a radfem she's going to get rid of him sooner or later. Sometimes we keep hoping and hanging on, but just give it time.

[–] [Deleted] 🦇 0 points

He has a lot of positives. We just disagree on one thing. We don't actually fight all that much. It would be very difficult to change his mind on this one thing, however. He owns a gaming company, that he does public relations for. His user base has an enormous trans contingent. Obviously, he's not gonna shoot himself in the foot, at least not publicly. You win some and you lose some, but at the end of the day, I'm not going to be a "one issue voter" so to speak when it comes to my relationship with him. I am also new to tervery. I'm still learning myself, and who knows maybe I'll see things differently one day.

It's a major point of disagreement and shows his lack of respect for women. It would be a deal breaker for me.

From what you’ve said, I gather he spends a good portion of his day online. Have you ever seen what kind of porn he watches? Yes it’s only one issue. The issue of whether he respects you or not. He’s already shown he won’t defer to the woman closest to him on womens issues. You said it yourself, men always defend each other’s perversions, I think this may be much deeper than you think. That said, you deserve someone who respects you and your positions on your own rights. Don’t settle for someone who does the bare minimum of not being abusive. You deserve someone who not only doesn’t treat you poorly, but actively tries to treat you well.

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