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In almost every gender article in the New York Times there are a few emotionally unhinged TiMs. I've seen this dude several times and now he is losing his mind that some readers worry over kids making decisions over gender identity. The NYTimes is pretty tight over what comments they allow, but, again, nothing but total affirmation is acceptable.

Behold, the trans toddler:

Ann Onymous The Untied Status of America

Yes, there is controversy about some of these issues WITHIN the trans community, the scientific community, the medical community, and the psychological community. And do you know what all these people have in common? They are all educated on the issues. When they have opinions, those opinions matter.

However, all of these other folks - the armchair anti-trans keyboard warriors who FREQUENTLY and REPEATEDLY express the same tone-deaf "honest concerns" that seem immutable (impervious to fact) - 90% of the people who regularly show up in these comments sections? Their "honest concerns" (a.k.a. propaganda and gaslighting) are wholly unhelpful, and indeed harmful.

Only in yesterday's public commentary conflagration over trans issues, one poor woman who had lost her 18 year old trans daughter to suicide was pleading that these comments just STOP. Because this sort of ignorance and hatred, thinly veiled as "honest, compassionate concerns," was likely part of what drove her daughter to suicide.

NYT, this has to STOP! There should be no more comments on transgender articles. Your comments sections on these articles serve only as a venue for hate propaganda. It costs lives. My people are under assault from all corners of society, and we are dying. Dying!

Just. STOP!

And please do not reject my comment about this issue, the way you usually do. It needs to be said. NYT needs to take responsibility and DO BETTER.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/23/opinion/trans-kids-privacy-gender-identity.html
In almost every gender article in the New York Times there are a few emotionally unhinged TiMs. I've seen this dude several times and now he is losing his mind that some readers worry over kids making decisions over gender identity. The NYTimes is pretty tight over what comments they allow, but, again, nothing but total affirmation is acceptable. Behold, the trans toddler: > Ann Onymous The Untied Status of America > Yes, there is controversy about some of these issues WITHIN the trans community, the scientific community, the medical community, and the psychological community. And do you know what all these people have in common? They are all educated on the issues. When they have opinions, those opinions matter. > However, all of these other folks - the armchair anti-trans keyboard warriors who FREQUENTLY and REPEATEDLY express the same tone-deaf "honest concerns" that seem immutable (impervious to fact) - 90% of the people who regularly show up in these comments sections? Their "honest concerns" (a.k.a. propaganda and gaslighting) are wholly unhelpful, and indeed harmful. > Only in yesterday's public commentary conflagration over trans issues, one poor woman who had lost her 18 year old trans daughter to suicide was pleading that these comments just STOP. Because this sort of ignorance and hatred, thinly veiled as "honest, compassionate concerns," was likely part of what drove her daughter to suicide. > NYT, this has to STOP! There should be no more comments on transgender articles. Your comments sections on these articles serve only as a venue for hate propaganda. It costs lives. My people are under assault from all corners of society, and we are dying. Dying! > Just. STOP! > And please do not reject my comment about this issue, the way you usually do. It needs to be said. NYT needs to take responsibility and DO BETTER. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/23/opinion/trans-kids-privacy-gender-identity.html

51 comments

[–] MonstrousRegiment 88 points

Every time I see the phrase "do better", I burst into laughter.
[–] Carrots90 10 points

I hear “do more of the same. You’ve only made me tsk tsk, push me to where I lose my 💩

[–] Lee-Side_ 48 points

Regarding the suicide of the 18-year old, it seems more and more obvious that mental health specialists should abandon affirmation and start looking at the patient's reasons for depression and anxiety beyond the gender craze. That's the big takeaway from the Cass report.
[–] RighteousIndignation 11 points

And pubery blockers are linked to increased mental health problems, wrong sex hormones cause swelling of the nerves in the brain as well as overall brain shrinkage, all affect mood and cognitive functions, including increased aggression and brain fog

[–] Tq231442 Cervix owner 3 points

Remember that deranged TIF in England that smashed a window and shoved her dildo in a beer? 🤦
[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 59 points

If a TIM loses his shit, is there anything left?
[–] drinkwater 33 points Edited

it costs lives

we are dying. Dying!

JUST STOP

DO BETTER

I could list more, but this guy really crossed off all the check marks for typical TRA rhetoric. Why don't you stop the melodrama, it's boring.
[–] Tq231442 Cervix owner 8 points

They're always soooo dramatic, with their separated final paragraphs on Twitter with the faux-heavy implications.

"This is genocide, full stop."

Shut the fuck up, no it is not. Nobody wants to kill you, just stay away from where women feel vulnerable and quit being weird creeps.
[–] drinkwater 1 points

They've truly butchered the severity and meaning of those words. They throw around words like that because they'll never be impacted by them.

[–] FemmeEtal 21 points

Also citation needed. ACTUAL women are dying at the hands of men everyday . TIMs not so much.

[–] drinkwater 9 points

It's giving highschool theatre reject performance levels. Not even an understudy.
[–] Iceni 45 points

I don't think men can change sex and become women

How many trans people did I just kill with my meanness?
[–] RighteousIndignation 7 points

Its like a real life peter pan, only its truth that kills the fairies rather then lies, who knew!
[–] HERetic 3 points

Every time a woman says I don't believe in gender another AGP falls down dead. Clap! Clap if you believe!
[–] Cantstopthemachine77 10 points

Most pro trans news sites don’t have comment sections, and I have always assumed that is because they know the average person will call out the nonsense and the comments section would be flooded with comments doing just that.

It shouldn’t be, but it’s almost shocking to see someone actually call for a removal of comment sections on trans related articles. This “no debate” idiocy just keeps expanding further and further. It should be such a red flag for people who haven’t peaked yet that they advocate for banning all conversation on trans topics wherever they can. It drives me bonkers that somehow, of all the things in this world, trans is hailed as the golden untouchable… and people go along with it!

How about “no debate” in favor of child marriage? Or in favor of legal prostitution? Or “no debate” against women’s right to abortion and birth control?
[–] SlowCollapse 6 points Edited

Or in favor of legal prostitution?

It's getting worryingly close with 'sex work is real work' and 'SWERFs'.
[–] Peppermint 28 points Edited

The problem is he and they are men and they are conveniently ignorant of the problems everyone especially women and girls face with transgender issues. He is effectively saying they should be the ones to decide what the rest of the world needs and no one else's opinions matter. Fuck him.

I noticed the latest article cut off comments at around 214 instead of 1400+ today. It felt like Reddit all over again. And yes there was yet another article on the Front Page (Bathroom Bans for Transgender Youths Are Poised for Supreme Court Review) .

Oh yea there is always some tone deaf "parent" who lost their kid in the comments. Wether that commenter is real or fake is up for question. Either way, losing a kid is tragic but that doesn't mean women and girls should sacrifice their dignity, safety, and lives for mentally ill people. If there is a that serious a problem.. lets get them their own fucking bathrooms and mental health care or put them in mental institutions.
[–] estina 21 points

If you lost your kid to suicide and they identified as trans, maybe stay out of the comment section for your own sake. The rest of us are entitled to discuss the loss of our sex based rights.
[–] Tiramisuomi 8 points

For real. I can't stand when responsibility for this is passed on to others. If the discussion makes you upset, it's on you to remove yourself from the situation instead of demanding that people that you've never met stop talking about something you find triggering or sad.

[–] RighteousIndignation 10 points

if they were affirmed because its "better to have a living daughter then a dead son" then they are proof it doesn't work, but then we already know affirmation doesn't work there has been studies on the suicide risks they don't go down after transition. burying your head in the sand and blaming everyone else for your sons suicide because he wasn't pandered too enough is not a solution.

I've dealt with the suicidal, nothing is ever enough, you can not placate them and you can not fix them, because the problems are inside and only they can fix themselves if they try to and that often involves changing themselves not superficial crap but inside, their mindset, their expectations in life.

[–] wishforsanity 3 points

They probably had to cut off the comments because a they/them NY Times employee felt "unsafe" and started to have a mental breakdown.
[–] MidnightMoon 6 points

Is someone forcing him to look at the NY times? I mean there are plenty of other news sites. I hope this guy doesn’t visit daily mail comment section he might have a heart attack,
[–] Tortoisemouse 15 points

My people are under assault from all corners of society, and we are dying. Dying!

This has got to be a troll! This is pure gold!
[–] overanddone 28 points

Their "honest concerns" (a.k.a. propaganda and gaslighting) are wholly unhelpful, and indeed harmful

Justy more unhelpful words. If you think something is untrue, state the untruth and the rebuttal. If you think something is propaganda, state the offending remarks and the rebuttal.

oh. right. that would open a debate. Better to just sling meaningless words, with EMPHASIS so that we all know you are REALLY SERIOUS.
[–] Hollyhock [OP] 24 points

Oh dear, those meanie parents have done it now. A humble TiM is so tired...NYTimes, don't you know you're supposed to be an emotional support newspaper?

Ann Onymous The Untied Status of America

NYT, might I make a humble suggestion as an exhausted trans woman?

In every comments section following every transgender article, the same people make the same exact points over and over and over again. Many of these points are lies, which are patiently debunked over and over again, only to be repeated by the same people anew. I'm sure it's as exhausting for the anti-transgender keyboard warriors as for the trans people trying to defend their community.

In the future, perhaps after every transgender article, you could simply print a curated collection of tired old comments representing both the people attacking transgender people and the trans people defending themselves. This would save everyone quite a lot of work. Continuing in this manner is insanity, and frankly it's rather cruel.
[–] FutureBreedMachine 17 points

"Patiently debunked" lmao. These people still can't give us a solid definition on wtf gender identity even is, how is he going to claim they've ever "debunked" absolutely anything?
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