I fear DeSantis aka DeSatan will be our next president because of TIMs

The Republicans know this is a huge winning issue for them.

Typically Republicans are full of shit and have to use a lot of propaganda and manipulation to fool people into buying into their nonsense.

On the gender issue, Republicans are actually telling the truth and they are going to hammer this issue whenever possible. They know it's their best shot to peal away Democratic voters.

[–] Riothamus scrote 34 points

The Democrats stopped fighting for campaign finance reform right about the same time they started pushing divisive TRA and IdPol bullshit.

The billionaires bought them and the money came with strings attached.

[–] GCRadFem ⚢ 16 points

Edited

I must interject about the massive Citizen’s United US Supreme Court ruling of 2010. This was where politics took a terrible turn for the worst and it wasn’t Democrats, conservatives fought for this. We must understand how all of us got to this point:

January 21, 2020 will mark a decade since the Supreme Court’s ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, a controversial decision that reversed century-old campaign finance restrictions and enabled corporations and other outside groups to spend unlimited funds on elections.

While wealthy donors, corporations, and special interest groups have long had an outsized influence in elections, that sway has dramatically expanded since the Citizens United decision, with negative repercussions for American democracy and the fight against political corruption.

What was Citizens United about?

A conservative nonprofit group called Citizens United challenged campaign finance rules after the FEC stopped it from promoting and airing a film criticizing presidential candidate Hillary Clinton too close to the presidential primaries.

A 5–4 majority of the Supreme Court sided with Citizens United, ruling that corporations and other outside groups can spend unlimited money on elections.

What was the rationale for the ruling?

In the court’s opinion, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that limiting “independent political spending” from corporations and other groups violates the First Amendment right to free speech. The justices who voted with the majority assumed that independent spending cannot be corrupt and that the spending would be transparent, but both assumptions have proven to be incorrect.

With its decision, the Supreme Court overturned election spending restrictions that date back more than 100 years. Previously, the court had upheld certain spending restrictions, arguing that the government had a role in preventing corruption. But in Citizens United, a bare majority of the justices held that “independent political spending” did not present a substantive threat of corruption, provided it was not coordinated with a candidate’s campaign.

As a result, corporations can now spend unlimited funds on campaign advertising if they are not formally “coordinating” with a candidate or political party.

How has Citizens United changed elections in the United States?

The ruling has ushered in massive increases in political spending from outside groups, dramatically expanding the already outsized political influence of wealthy donors, corporations, and special interest groups.

In the immediate aftermath of the Citizens United decision, analysts focused much of their attention on how the Supreme Court designated corporate spending on elections as free speech. But perhaps the most significant outcomes of Citizens United have been the creation of super PACs, which empower the wealthiest donors, and the expansion of dark money through shadowy nonprofits that don’t disclose their donors.

A Brennan Center report by Daniel I. Weiner pointed out that a very small group of Americans now wield “more power than at any time since Watergate, while many of the rest seem to be disengaging from politics.“

“This is perhaps the most troubling result of Citizens United: in a time of historic wealth inequality,” wrote Weiner, “the decision has helped reinforce the growing sense that our democracy primarily serves the interests of the wealthy few, and that democratic participation for the vast majority of citizens is of relatively little value.”

Above are excerpts from the Brennen Center.org explaining what the Citizens United case was about and the dark money it unleashed in politics. If you click on the link, it also explains about PACS and Super PACS and what they mean.

Edit: typo

I must interject about the massive Citizen’s United US Supreme Court ruling of 2010. This was where politics took a terrible turn for the worst and it wasn’t Democrats, conservatives fought for this. We must understand how all of us got to this point: January 21, 2020 will mark a decade since the [Supreme Court’s](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained) ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, a controversial decision that reversed century-old campaign finance restrictions and enabled corporations and other outside groups to spend unlimited funds on elections. While wealthy donors, corporations, and special interest groups have long had an outsized influence in elections, that sway has dramatically expanded since the Citizens United decision, with negative repercussions for American democracy and the fight against political corruption. **What was Citizens United about?** A conservative nonprofit group called Citizens United challenged campaign finance rules after the FEC stopped it from promoting and airing a film criticizing presidential candidate Hillary Clinton too close to the presidential primaries. A 5–4 majority of the Supreme Court sided with Citizens United, ruling that corporations and other outside groups can spend unlimited money on elections. **What was the rationale for the ruling?** In the court’s opinion, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that limiting “independent political spending” from corporations and other groups violates the First Amendment right to free speech. The justices who voted with the majority assumed that independent spending cannot be corrupt and that the spending would be transparent, but both assumptions have proven to be incorrect. With its decision, the Supreme Court overturned election spending restrictions that date back more than 100 years. Previously, the court had upheld certain spending restrictions, arguing that the government had a role in preventing corruption. But in Citizens United, a bare majority of the justices held that “independent political spending” did not present a substantive threat of corruption, provided it was not coordinated with a candidate’s campaign. As a result, corporations can now spend unlimited funds on campaign advertising if they are not formally “coordinating” with a candidate or political party. **How has Citizens United changed elections in the United States?** The ruling has ushered in massive increases in political spending from outside groups, dramatically expanding the already outsized political influence of wealthy donors, corporations, and special interest groups. In the immediate aftermath of the Citizens United decision, analysts focused much of their attention on how the Supreme Court designated corporate spending on elections as free speech. But perhaps the most significant outcomes of Citizens United have been the creation of super PACs, which empower the wealthiest donors, and the expansion of dark money through shadowy nonprofits that don’t disclose their donors. A Brennan Center report by Daniel I. Weiner pointed out that a very small group of Americans now wield “more power than at any time since Watergate, while many of the rest seem to be disengaging from politics.“ “This is perhaps the most troubling result of Citizens United: in a time of historic wealth inequality,” wrote Weiner, “the decision has helped reinforce the growing sense that our democracy primarily serves the interests of the wealthy few, and that democratic participation for the vast majority of citizens is of relatively little value.” Above are excerpts from the [Brennen Center](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained).org explaining what the Citizens United case was about and the dark money it unleashed in politics. If you click on the link, it also explains about PACS and Super PACS and what they mean. Edit: typo

[–] MonstrousRegiment 9 points

Thanks for the comprehensive review!

And I'd also like to point out that the ACLU participated in the case on the side of Citizens United. Because of "free speech".

[–] GCRadFem ⚢ 6 points

You are absolutely right about that. They went off the rails and jumped on free speech as a reason. From ACLU.org:

We understand that the amount of money now being spent on political campaigns has created a growing skepticism in the integrity of our election system that raises serious concerns. We firmly believe, however, that the response to those concerns must be consistent with our constitutional commitment to freedom of speech and association.

For that reason, the ACLU does not support campaign finance regulation premised on the notion that the answer to money in politics is to ban political speech.

The ACLU has been a lost cause for a long time now.

[–] Riothamus scrote 7 points

Edited

I know. Citizen's United happened during my first year of law school (yes, it was demoralizing). Democrats stood in more or less uniform opposition to it for several years as a more liberal Supreme Court could easily overturn that insane ruling.

They gave up on this some time during Obama's second term- right as the Democrats deliberately sought out divisive IdPol garbage at the expense of OWS economic solidarity.

[–] millicentfawcett 2 points

That's really interesting thanks. I had no idea that's what happened - I'm not American so my overview is sometimes superficial.

[–] littleowl12 37 points

What we have sacrificed for these ridiculous fetishists is beyond measure. They've destroyed the progressive movement. I don't see any future progress. Not near future, anyway. Only a terrible erosion of what we have.

[–] sineadsiobhan 35 points

I will not vote GOP.

I’m not even sure I want to vote Dem when the Dems are acting like idiots over this issue. I have previously criticised people for not voting (I had thought the choice was absolutely clear) and now I totally understand why people don’t vote.

DeSantis is young, from the south, Floridians seem to love him (Florida tends to be a swing state). People say image isn’t everything but compared to Biden, he looks like he’d be competent to the uninformed, apolitical voter.

[–] Dark_Mercy 12 points

Even if you don't vote for any candidates on the ticket you can still go in, take a ballot, leave it blank and put it to be "counted" it might not be too much, but it shows someone who wasn't apathetic, but didn't like any of the choices. My opinion, anyway.

[–] SakuraBlossoms 9 points

JK Rowling for president

[–] RisingUp 6 points

Maybe don’t leave it blank? Could be doctored by a poll worker.

Write a GC message on it or something.

[–] sineadsiobhan 1 points

I live abroad so it’s a matter of not requesting a ballot.

[–] QueenOfNothing 1 points

I have never voted in anything other than local elections because I long ago resigned myself to the fact that my vote doesn’t matter — wrong attitude to have, I know — but I’m going to register and do exactly that. Or maybe vote for Lady Gaga. I feel like she would kill it as president.

[–] FutureBreedMachine 8 points

While I generally like Lady Gaga, she's downed the kool-aid. I don't think you'd really want her to be president lol

[–] anxietyacct 22 points

Sadly, you may be right because conservatives have started stealing radical feminist rhetoric (i.e talking about gender ideology, porn) even though they are literally the sources of the problems within those things. People are falling for it because conservatives have more influence over the media than radical feminists do.

I still encourage you to never vote for conservatives. That is a horrible misstep.

[–] ShotTopic Lesbian 17 points

I still encourage you to never vote for conservatives. That is a horrible misstep.

Agree. Conservatives are no friends to women's rights I would never vote for them.

[–] QueenOfNothing 24 points

The man suing the NJ Korean spa lives in my town and nobody is talking about it — I didn’t even realize he was a local until I read a Reduxx article. I don’t think his story is anywhere near as important as he thinks it is 🤣

[–] ILovePizzaALot 19 points

I'm so glad the spa stood their ground. I've been to that spa before and it's fantastic. If there were guys in the women's section, I'd be pissed and feel super let down.

[–] QueenOfNothing 16 points

I wonder if he intentionally went there because he heard they stand their ground. We are 15 minutes from the Canadian border near Kingston, which means he drove like 4-5 hours ONE WAY to that spa from here and he’s not from NJ, so it’s not like he was back home visiting family.

[–] vor10sity 13 points

I do think that the GOP has a real opening to gain voters from the Democrats because of gender bullshit. And clearly they know it too. TRAs are already in a tizzy over Trump's video which was way less inflammatory than you'd think if you listen to them (he basically said a whole lot of nothing and they're acting like he's calling for genocide which feels almost like it's minimizing the weight of the word genocide but who is surprised there.) I think there's plenty of examples for the GOP to pull from to make voters who are apathetic about these issues to become genuinely heated about them, including people who might otherwise vote Democrat.

The problem is that the GOP and conservatives come at it from the angle of men shouldn't be doing feminine things at all and women should be focused on being mothers and forced into motherhood if they get pregnant on accident or worse by rape. There's no political GC voice loud enough in the US to say this trans stuff is bullshit exactly BECAUSE gender roles based on sex are also bullshit. There's no room for critical thinking in American politics on literally any issue, but this may be the most glaring and also destructive example.

My vote in the general elections won't matter bc my state always goes blue. What I really want is someone left-leaning on issues like abortion rights and climate change, but who has common sense both in regards to this issue but also in what's possible economically on all issues. Unfortunately our two party system means there's no room for common sense let alone critical thinking.

I was 17 in 2012, so my first real presidential election was 2016. Then the establishment Dems really disillusioned me in 2020. They care more about identity politics than issues that actually affect most people. I don't want to vote for the GOP, and probably never will, but even the reasons worth voting against them seem minimal. The Dems aren't actually going to stand up for the shit that matters. And they probably are out of touch with even their own voter base on this particular issue. I feel politically homeless. I think most Americans with more than one brain cell and a reading level above third grade probably do.

I do think that the GOP has a real opening to gain voters from the Democrats because of gender bullshit. And clearly they know it too. TRAs are already in a tizzy over Trump's video which was way less inflammatory than you'd think if you listen to them (he basically said a whole lot of nothing and they're acting like he's calling for genocide which feels almost like it's minimizing the weight of the word genocide but who is surprised there.) I think there's plenty of examples for the GOP to pull from to make voters who are apathetic about these issues to become genuinely heated about them, including people who might otherwise vote Democrat. The problem is that the GOP and conservatives come at it from the angle of men shouldn't be doing feminine things at all and women should be focused on being mothers and forced into motherhood if they get pregnant on accident or worse by rape. There's no political GC voice loud enough in the US to say this trans stuff is bullshit exactly BECAUSE gender roles based on sex are also bullshit. There's no room for critical thinking in American politics on literally any issue, but this may be the most glaring and also destructive example. My vote in the general elections won't matter bc my state always goes blue. What I really want is someone left-leaning on issues like abortion rights and climate change, but who has common sense both in regards to this issue but also in what's possible economically on all issues. Unfortunately our two party system means there's no room for common sense let alone critical thinking. I was 17 in 2012, so my first real presidential election was 2016. Then the establishment Dems really disillusioned me in 2020. They care more about identity politics than issues that actually affect most people. I don't want to vote for the GOP, and probably never will, but even the reasons worth voting against them seem minimal. The Dems aren't actually going to stand up for the shit that matters. And they probably are out of touch with even their own voter base on this particular issue. I feel politically homeless. I think most Americans with more than one brain cell and a reading level above third grade probably do.

[–] backslashgarbagefile 3 points

To be fair, they already minimize the weight of the word genocide by calling anyone who disagrees with them a nazi. They disagree with you or they're out attempting to commit genocide? At least they're consistent.

"There's no room for critical thinking in American politics on literally any issue, but this may be the most glaring and also destructive example." Hard agree. It's so extreme.

[–] zuubat 2 points

TRAs are already in a tizzy over Trump's video which was way less inflammatory than you'd think if you listen to them (he basically said a whole lot of nothing)

It looked like a hostage video. As he haltingly read from the teleprompter it was embarrassingly obvious he understood Not. One. Word. of what he was saying. Just cringeworthy when he mouthed the words "gender assigned at birth" with a straight face. CRIKES what a fool!

Some fifth-columnist on his staff probably slipped that in there for a laugh. But consider: of all his staffers who must have reviewed the speech, line by line, word by word, knowing how easily he could flub it ... not even one of them caught the TRA dog-whistle.

Republicans are masterful, fucking brilliant at manipulating voters' emotions. But on TRA madness - the one issue that even the lowest-IQ candidate could easily demagogue against - they are clueless.

[–] MonstrousRegiment 1 points

Great analysis!

[–] GCRadFem ⚢ 15 points

I used to be somewhat of a politics junkie. By that I mean, I have always looked up each candidate for office, read as much about them as I could possibly find and then make my choice. This includes candidates for judgeships, miscellaneous state offices and school boards. When I worked and had a family to raise, I spent much less time on my search but I still did my best to get behind the political party to look at the person running.

The little bios the candidates themselves put out are never the real story. I hate this saying but it so applies here: they always polish up a turd. The real truth is much deeper and more difficult to get to.

These days, getting to the truth behind the shit-slingers in politics takes more work, even with the internet. Two word example: George Santos. It floors me that no one did any vetting. It seems that it wouldn’t have taken any time at all to get to the semi-truth behind the lies. On the other hand, Trump’s a pathological liar and his lies were out there for all to see, yet 72 million people still said, “So what? He’s my hero” and actually voted for him. Hell, his fans still say that although some truth is seeping into their brains.

DeSantis seems to be the “thinking man and woman candidate”, with his Harvard and Yale degrees and all. Meanwhile, teachers are removing books from their little classroom libraries in fear of the brownshirts for DeSantis doing a room-check. Yes, this is exactly what fascists did in the 1930’s. We are not far removed from some book-burnings here.

On one hand we have the left, to which I have always belonged and then had to come face to face with the deniers of biological sex. I am terribly upset with the Democrats solely on this issue. If they can’t clearly state the answer to “What is a woman?” How can they represent me?

Republicans go against everything I believe about how human beings should be treated. They know what biological sex is but they want women to go back to a time before second wave. Conservatives want women tied to the kitchen and to babies, with dinner on the table when the hubby gets home from work. That is what conservatives want for us as women.

As a lesbian, I truly hate to feel that no political party represents me. Conservatives hated/hate gay marriage. TRA nation hitched themselves to the lesbian and gay movements. We thought that there were only a few sad and lost gay men in dresses and after big fights in the community, we allowed them into our fight. How did we ever know it was like the opening of hell-mouth and every transvestite and cross-dresser would come spilling out of their own hidden closets and literally take over every single LGB organization and movement?

Politically, I feel nowhere now. I don’t even watch the news on any news channel any more and I read a fraction of political news these days. Twitter used to be a place to read articles from a wide variety of news sources and now I keep getting shit I won’t read in a million years. I do not like what has happened to Twitter.

Biden really has accomplished a lot since he has been in office, in spite of the Republican pushback (aided by Manchin and Sinema). He isn’t doddering. He has has a long-term issue with shuttering that he has worked hard to master. Trump can’t even speak one articulate and coherent sentence but that does not matter to his worshippers.

Yes, I’m disgusted with Democrats but Republicans as a party disturb me to my core. They go against everything I believe in. We only agree on the harms and insanity of gender ideology. I am lost politically now. I have extreme cognitive dissonance with both parties these days.

I used to be somewhat of a politics junkie. By that I mean, I have always looked up each candidate for office, read as much about them as I could possibly find and then make my choice. This includes candidates for judgeships, miscellaneous state offices and school boards. When I worked and had a family to raise, I spent much less time on my search but I still did my best to get behind the political party to look at the person running. The little bios the candidates themselves put out are never the real story. I hate this saying but it so applies here: they always polish up a turd. The real truth is much deeper and more difficult to get to. These days, getting to the truth behind the shit-slingers in politics takes more work, even with the internet. Two word example: George Santos. It floors me that no one did any vetting. It seems that it wouldn’t have taken any time at all to get to the semi-truth behind the lies. On the other hand, Trump’s a pathological liar and his lies were out there for all to see, yet 72 million people still said, “So what? He’s my hero” and actually voted for him. Hell, his fans still say that although some truth is seeping into their brains. DeSantis seems to be the “thinking man and woman candidate”, with his Harvard and Yale degrees and all. Meanwhile, teachers are removing books from their little classroom libraries in fear of the brownshirts for DeSantis doing a room-check. Yes, this is exactly what fascists did in the 1930’s. We are not far removed from some book-burnings here. On one hand we have the left, to which I have always belonged and then had to come face to face with the deniers of biological sex. I am terribly upset with the Democrats solely on this issue. If they can’t clearly state the answer to “What is a woman?” How can they represent me? Republicans go against everything I believe about how human beings should be treated. They know what biological sex is but they want women to go back to a time before second wave. Conservatives want women tied to the kitchen and to babies, with dinner on the table when the hubby gets home from work. That is what conservatives want for us as women. As a lesbian, I truly hate to feel that no political party represents me. Conservatives hated/hate gay marriage. TRA nation hitched themselves to the lesbian and gay movements. We thought that there were only a few sad and lost gay men in dresses and after big fights in the community, we allowed them into **our** fight. How did we ever know it was like the opening of hell-mouth and every transvestite and cross-dresser would come spilling out of their own hidden closets and literally take over every single LGB organization and movement? Politically, I feel nowhere now. I don’t even watch the news on any news channel any more and I read a fraction of political news these days. Twitter used to be a place to read articles from a wide variety of news sources and now I keep getting shit I won’t read in a million years. I do not like what has happened to Twitter. Biden really has accomplished a lot since he has been in office, in spite of the Republican pushback (aided by Manchin and Sinema). He isn’t doddering. He has has a long-term issue with shuttering that he has worked hard to master. Trump can’t even speak one articulate and coherent sentence but that does not matter to his worshippers. Yes, I’m disgusted with Democrats but Republicans as a party disturb me to my core. They go against everything I believe in. We only agree on the harms and insanity of gender ideology. I am lost politically now. I have extreme cognitive dissonance with both parties these days.

[–] Ladylucy 3 points

As a Democrat, I hear you. But there is one reason I couldn’t fill in the circle for a Republican president— Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Lauren Boebart will be doing the same thing. No, just no. Can’t do it.

[–] GCRadFem ⚢ 1 points

Agree with you there. All of the MAGAS would just be a punchline if they didn’t actually have a seat in Congress or any actual political power. Never will I vote for one of them.

[–] SparklingFem 2 points

Hear, hear!

I've resigned myself to voting third party in the hopes that a third-party candidate can start getting enough votes to become a true player in the game. Although, if Trump runs again I will vote Democrat because I don't want split vote like 2016 that got him into office anyway.

[–] Megasaurus 20 points

I think the only way DeSantis will lose is if Trump runs as an independent and splits the conservative vote.

[–] ShotTopic Lesbian 5 points

My dream!

[–] Megasaurus 3 points

It’s a definite possibility

[–] SparklingFem 6 points

I would kill for a presidential candidate like Michael Shellenberger. He has some ideas worth looking into on education and homelessness, and he is against identity politics, separating spaces by sex and not gender, etc. He was previously a Democrat, but is now running as an independent. He has zero chance in the next election, but I’d love to see it a few years down the line.

[–] Seven 14 points

Other countries are having the same pendulum swing because of the institutional capture by the trans movement. A perfect psyop

Rant I fear DeSantis aka DeSatan will be our next president because of TIMs

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