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Anyone else feel like this? I don’t seek out transgender ideology because I don’t agree with it in its current form whatsoever but I feel like it’s inescapable. As a life long left leaning person most of the media I consume is along those lines (and let’s face it, entertainment is very left wing in general) but I’m rapidly becoming alienated from lots of the things I used to enjoy because even though it should have absolutely nothing to do with transgenderism, it gets snuck in all the time. Of course, because now trans women are women, anything to do with women has to include them. But it’s not just that. I wince every time someone lists their pronouns for no goddamned reason in the My Favorite Murder minisodes (episodes where people write in with their personal stories). Thank you, Elizabeth, for adding your pronouns are she/her, no one would ever have bloody guessed. They also started saying “pregnant people” at one point and I nearly threw my phone in the toilet. The worst offender is Page 7 from LPOTL, I have had to officially stop listening to that as one of the hosts, a woman named Molly with two children and “a personality” has decided she is trans - but she’s keeping “she/her” but she’s changing her name to MJ. I can’t listen any more. Her smug rejection of her own female body - which birthed and breastfed her two children (at least one of which is a girl, good luck kiddo) - seems to be down to her opinion that “she’s not like the other girls” and likes wearing boy’s clothes and “is weird”. I’m so tired of women like this who pigeonhole every other woman and think they are so unique and wonderful so they must be different. I also don’t understand how she is trans when she’s clearly non-binary... JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. (Seriously, we’re all non-binary because gender is made up.) I should have given up when they slammed JK Rowling without understanding a word she said and it’s so clear that “MJ” has been the driving force of deplatforming women on that podcast for years. (But sexualising them is fine apparently)

Anyone else have this problem? Why does this nonsense infect everything so readily?! Does anyone have any no-nonsense podcasts they can recommend?

Anyone else feel like this? I don’t seek out transgender ideology because I don’t agree with it in its current form whatsoever but I feel like it’s inescapable. As a life long left leaning person most of the media I consume is along those lines (and let’s face it, entertainment is very left wing in general) but I’m rapidly becoming alienated from lots of the things I used to enjoy because even though it should have absolutely nothing to do with transgenderism, it gets snuck in all the time. Of course, because now trans women are women, anything to do with women has to include them. But it’s not just that. I wince every time someone lists their pronouns for no goddamned reason in the My Favorite Murder minisodes (episodes where people write in with their personal stories). Thank you, Elizabeth, for adding your pronouns are she/her, no one would ever have bloody guessed. They also started saying “pregnant people” at one point and I nearly threw my phone in the toilet. The worst offender is Page 7 from LPOTL, I have had to officially stop listening to that as one of the hosts, a woman named Molly with two children and “a personality” has decided she is trans - but she’s keeping “she/her” but she’s changing her name to MJ. I can’t listen any more. Her smug rejection of her own female body - which birthed and breastfed her two children (at least one of which is a girl, good luck kiddo) - seems to be down to her opinion that “she’s not like the other girls” and likes wearing boy’s clothes and “is weird”. I’m so tired of women like this who pigeonhole every other woman and think they are so unique and wonderful so they must be different. I also don’t understand how she is trans when she’s clearly non-binary... JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. (Seriously, we’re all non-binary because gender is made up.) I should have given up when they slammed JK Rowling without understanding a word she said and it’s so clear that “MJ” has been the driving force of deplatforming women on that podcast for years. (But sexualising them is fine apparently) Anyone else have this problem? Why does this nonsense infect everything so readily?! Does anyone have any no-nonsense podcasts they can recommend?

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[–] MadSea 34 points (+34|-0)

Yes!!! I’ve quit watching so many shows/movies. They’ve made them impossible to enjoy and I’m not interested in blatant propaganda and normalization of the absurd.

I’ve read a lot of books the last couple years and picked up a bunch of hobbies. I feel far more fulfilled not having commercials being blasted at me constantly now (and I mean the real commercials and the shows which are basically just better produced commercials selling us woo). Bonus, no more pharmaceutical commercials. I hate all ads but those ones just make me unreasonably angry.

I hope the tide turns soon, I really can’t stand it anymore. All the woke dudes fill me with rage with their dismissive comments on their late night shows. Oblivious fools.

[–] ArmyofMe 27 points (+27|-0)

I had a similar experience this week listening to the This Had Oscar Buzz podcast. It’s a fun podcast where two gay male film journalists discuss Oscar bait movies that failed to get any nominations. It was always clear that the hosts were TRAs (pronouns in bios, “Elliot” page) but the topics weren’t about politics or trans issues so it didn’t affect my enjoyment.

Until their most recent episode. Their most recent episode covers a Roman Polanski film. They prefaced it by saying that they’ve avoided his movies for a long time but they aren’t going to pretend like he hasn’t had a huge cultural impact or hasn’t made good films even though he’s a bad person, etc. The main host then goes on to talk about how it’s like JK Rowling being a terrible person but her work is impactful and he kept going on and on about how terrible she is.

This was so rage inducing I almost unsubscribed because first of all they are comparing a woman with opinions to a man who raped a child and fled the country. Secondly, they couldn’t even say what she did wrong. Lastly, it’s irrelevant to the movie. I was so pissed.

[–] tymps 22 points (+22|-0)

God, I'm so fucking sick of people lumping JKR in with Polanski, Woody Allen, etc. and acting as if her "crimes" are somehow anywhere near their level. I "love" how a woman saying something you don't want to hear is somehow the same as being a violent rapist/abuser. Countless disgusting abusive men still have careers, but no, let's focus on JKR's tweets some more.

[–] KBash 8 points (+8|-0)

He’s raped multiple children, and bragged about it.

[–] harripan 5 points (+5|-0)

I saw liberals did the same thing with Armie Hammer, an actor who is into bdsm and was accused of raping women. Don't kinkshame him, guys!! Those women consented to him abusing them!! But JK Rowling is the devil for being gender critical. Also I've mentioned this before, but there was a WatchMojo video that was like "Top 20 Celebrities who Ruined their Careers in 2020." They said it was an objective list, but they put JK Rowling at number 1, ahead of Prince Andrew, another man accused of rape. Why are gender critical women considered worse than male rapists?

[–] ditchwitch 25 points (+26|-1)

lol I knew this post would be about podcasts from the title. I just stopped listening to them entirely after the JK thing went down. Some became near unlistenable anyway because hosts would devote so much time to stumbling around overcorrecting themselves about "he or she, or wait no it or they, anyone of any gender, anywhere on the gender spectrum, sorry so sorry, transrights" I just listen to music now & will probably bust out the audiobooks the next time I travel. No more "birthing bodies" for me, thanks. Wish I had reccs for you & not just commiseration, but it's rough out there lmao.

[–] Flaneuse [OP] 19 points (+19|-0)

It’s so depressing, isn’t it?

[–] ditchwitch 18 points (+18|-0) Edited

Yeah it's bleak. The ideology does a lot of real, physical & emotional harm to a lot of people & I can't bear listen to anything that's gonna be constantly shoving it in my face like it's this super awesome progressive thing. If I have to spend the rest of my life only watching old movies & nature livestreams I don't mind it, I just worry about people getting sucked in by the nonsense as it creeps into literally everything. So, so bleak...

[–] EvaDemeter 3 points (+3|-0)

The only podcast I listen to has a discord server, and it was sadly overrun very quickly even if the podcast itself was not. Sigh.

[–] Duchess 8 points (+8|-0)

The only podcast I like listening to is the FDS podcast

[–] hypatia 3 points (+3|-0)

Oh cool, I didn't know they put one out! What do they typically talk about?

[–] GelatinousRube 4 points (+4|-0)

It's pretty new! Take a peep at the episode titles and you'll probably know if you're interested. It does what it says on the tin, lol.

[–] Duchess 1 points (+1|-0)

It’s just started so there’s an intro, and episodes about feminism and double standards, analyzing Bridgerton, the Meghan and Harry situation, and responding to a Vice article made about them. They don’t cover anything related to gender issues but discuss female expectations and oppression.

[–] DarthVelma 23 points (+23|-0)

I had to completely stop listening to one of my favorite podcasts due to a TIM. It was mostly ok when they were still using a gender neutral name and talking like a normal human. But then they changed their name to something traditionally female and started doing that awful fake falsetto TIM voice and became completely unlistenable. They also started saying "as a woman" and "from a woman's perspective" all the damn time. I don't know how the actual female person on the podcast didn't just strangle the dude. She's brilliant and insightful and I just cannot wade through the TIM's shit to hear the actual woman's perspectives and ideas. It pisses me off and makes me sad at the same time.

[–] Flaneuse [OP] 12 points (+12|-0)

Everyone is too scared to say anything, surely? Men don’t care because if they’re not sleeping with them a woman is irrelevant, but surely other women can see this is nonsense and appropriation? Even two women could clash over lived experience but a woman can’t contradict a trans woman who literally has no idea what he’s talking about.

[–] GenderHeretic 1 points (+1|-0)

I just cannot stand the fake laydee voice. It makes my ears bleed.

[–] starsstorm 19 points (+19|-0)

It’s all over everything. I watch historical documentaries almost exclusively at this point.

[–] Flaneuse [OP] 22 points (+22|-0)

Ah, but don’t forget - if there’s a woman who had ambition, education, and intelligence... she was probably trans!

[–] starsstorm 7 points (+7|-0)

I’m waiting for that to show up. So far, the history community doesn’t seem to take them very seriously.

[–] SawItComing 4 points (+4|-0)

It is well known that John of Arc was a brave transwoman who led the French against the English and Kween Elizabert the First was a brave virgin transwoman whose neovageen was penetrated by no man.

[–] rad-sage-fem 17 points (+17|-0)

it's SO frustrating! I can't mindlessly scroll on facebook without literally every second post mentioning trans stuff, and I've already blocked a couple of friends who only ever posted about trans issues. I can't block everyone.

My main internet chill place is fanfic but that's a nightmare. So is fandom groups, where most recently I saw women getting cheered on for talking about the binder they just bought 😥

To be fair, I probably could benefit from less time wasted on the internet...

I went on Facebook for the first time in ages the other day and the first thing I stumbled across was a very woke woman I know's announcement that she is now they. 'They' is a primary school teacher. God knows what genderwoo she's teaching those kids without their parent's knowledge.

[–] rad-sage-fem 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

ha there's so many of they/thems in my midwifery/birth groups! I literally saw a midwife the other day with her profile picture is her with her newborn having clearly just given birth and on the profile pic (!!) is written "THEY/THEM" and her previous profile pic was her with long hair looking like any other woman that say "not a woman" on it. NOT A WOMAN! Aren't you so special!

But yeah, it's so scary to think of what that teacher is teaching...

[–] Tyro 1 points (+1|-0)

Last time I went looking for fanfic, I was thoroughly depressed by how many people think it's appropriate to denounce JKR in the disclaimer.

The weirdest is the omegaverse stuff. Especially when you apply it to real life, and realise AGPs are essentially betas who realise they can never be alphas and so want to be omegas, and that the whole concept of omegas is just a 'rape fantasy' writ large.

[–] rad-sage-fem 2 points (+2|-0)

haha yeah I've always skipped the omegaverse stuff. Though I do/did read a lot of fanfic radical feminism frowns upon, including kink, I can't read anything where the power dynamic is gendered, and I always found omegaverse subtext way too gendered, even though it's got those weird made up genders. Also it confuses me.

I agree about the JRK in the declaimer thing - some of my fave HP authors did it recently and it breaks my heart every time I see it. I feel like anyone with a minimum of respect would just steer clear of the whole thing.

And everyone now has to include 5 million trans characters in their stories. It's so exhausting.

[–] BlackMoonLilith 1 points (+1|-0)

I literally have everyone on my facebook 'unfollowed' (still friends but their stuff doesn't show up in my feed) except my aunt who posts memes and my siblings. It's honestly so much nicer, lmao.

[–] elphaba 17 points (+17|-0)

I just think about how a decade or two from now people will be digging up instances of trans insanity from TV shows and movies and asking why people in the 20s completely lost their minds.

[–] NoOneSpecial 🦋👽 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Same! I imagine, if civilization even trudges on normally before we see total collapse, high school kids doing their PowerPoint presentations on this insanity.

[–] Duchess 15 points (+15|-0)

I consume media from the 90s and 00s to avoid the nonsense.

[–] GenderHeretic 0 points (+0|-0)

Those of us who grew up in these eras cop shit for being so nostalgic, but why the hell wouldn't we be?

I've gone back to watching things from my childhood. I won't waste any time or money on modern Woke garbage.

So much of it is crammed down our throats, I'm definitely not going to welcome it in on my own time.

[–] Notgonnastop 11 points (+11|-0)

Yep. Even creeping into scifi and mystery books as well.

[–] ArmyofMe 12 points (+12|-0)

It’s unavoidable in YA of all genres these days.

[–] worried19 4 points (+4|-0)

Huge numbers of female authors who write books for kids and teens are also transitioning.

[–] rad-sage-fem 1 points (+1|-0)

I just got back into YA a few years ago after reading very little for maybe 5-8 years? And I was so excited to see all the LGB characters that were completely absent when I was a teen reading YA. But it looks like I got a couple of good years in, and now it's over, everything is all about the trans.

[–] Banshee 4 points (+4|-0)

The books is the biggest blow for me. I'm a hopeless bookworm and suddenly all the recent releases within scifi and fantasy have to have at least one trans character. They also tend to be very preachy.

[–] GelatinousRube 10 points (+10|-0)

I'm enjoying stuff that's only from FIVE YEARS AGO. That's how recent this shit is.

For podcasts I like Sinisterhood. They're like MFM, except both hosts are funny, they have a very sweet and supportive friendship, and they do actual research instead of "one time on I Survived."

They're polite without being nauseatingly woke all the time. Just very down to earth women.

[–] Flaneuse [OP] 5 points (+5|-0)

Yeah, I like Sinisterhood, I fell off a bit because they interrupt themselves SO much though. But they are really nice and they do know what they’re talking about. MFM is good but they’re very snitty and performative. I was SO mad at Karen’s dismissive discussion of the women’s protests here in the UK over the death of Sarah Everard. Women have been speaking up about how unsafe we feel and her comment was basically “now you know how POCs feel around cops” and it was just... not what was needed to be said. The UK and the US are vastly different when it comes to policing. I have no idea why she was so bitchy and dismissive.

[–] GelatinousRube 4 points (+4|-0)

Karen is kind of an idiot. I wish she wasn't. I don't feel like she's performatively woke, just the kind when you live in a leftie city for 30 years and all your friends are. Very looking through the US lens.

[–] Flaneuse [OP] 2 points (+2|-0)

She seems like she should be the most resistant to gender woo, being a 50 year old woman who has been through the wringer because of her sex. Divorce, near bankruptcy, bullied at her job, probably rejected for her goal of being an actress (I think this was an ambition of hers) because of her looks and weight - then doing a podcast about how men pray on women and still not getting it... They get so close sometimes, but then they have to woo woo stuff away. Weird because they do stand up for themselves when they get dog piled sometimes - I'm thinking of the teepee incident when they changed the design of their t-shirt but they didn't really apologise for it and they seemed very irritated by the whole thing. Where's that passion for actual women when we need it?

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