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But then when you try and check you can’t find any proof, so you just feel guilty.

Because it’s very likely you’re just judging someone because they have a deep voice or masculine features. Maybe the lighting, angle or makeup they’re wearing is just unflattering.

So you feel bad, even though you just can’t shake the thought that something is off.

Then sometimes it also feels racist. Like I’m white. So maybe it’s just an internal bias I’m not aware of.

But now that I’ve been peaked for awhile it’s just so hard to ignore.

I saw a video again recently of the A cappella group Citizen Queen performing various girl group hits from like the 40s til now. Like I said I’d seen it before. Before I peaked. Watching it now all I could notice was that I think one member of the group is a TIM.

There’s a YouTuber who talks about cults and stuff (called Fundie Friday’s) I can’t stand to watch now cause I think they’re a TIM.

And if they are, like I’m not thrilled obviously. But I think they should at least be honest about it.

Anyway I don’t really know what the point of this rambling is.

I guess that I feel guilty being suspicious of people, but can’t ignore my gut at the same time?

Does anyone else do this!?

But then when you try and check you can’t find any proof, so you just feel guilty. Because it’s very likely you’re just judging someone because they have a deep voice or masculine features. Maybe the lighting, angle or makeup they’re wearing is just unflattering. So you feel bad, even though you just can’t shake the thought that something is off. Then sometimes it also feels racist. Like I’m white. So maybe it’s just an internal bias I’m not aware of. But now that I’ve been peaked for awhile it’s just so hard to ignore. I saw a video again recently of the A cappella group Citizen Queen performing various girl group hits from like the 40s til now. Like I said I’d seen it before. Before I peaked. Watching it now all I could notice was that I think one member of the group is a TIM. There’s a YouTuber who talks about cults and stuff (called Fundie Friday’s) I can’t stand to watch now cause I think they’re a TIM. And if they are, like I’m not thrilled obviously. But I think they should at least be honest about it. Anyway I don’t really know what the point of this rambling is. I guess that I feel guilty being suspicious of people, but can’t ignore my gut at the same time? Does anyone else do this!?

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[–] actualdyke 36 points (+36|-0)

that whole sense of disconnect and confusion and guilt is exactly what they want us to feel. They want us to not only ignore our hardwired sex recognition patterns but also feel guilty about recognizing these differences because they drill into our heads that TWAW and there's absolutely no difference. and about the whole finding no proof thing - that's not uncommon. like when ellen page came out literally all mention of her real name or her life and career as a woman was erased off the internet. gaslighting and lying is what they're best at, don't let it get to you!

[–] GelatinousRube 32 points (+32|-0)

I have a similar distracting experience but I don't feel bad about it. My brain's doing what it's been hard wired to do... Detect patterns that can keep me safer.

This doesn't relate to safety, but I have the same reaction when I see one of those fancy cakes that are meant to look exactly like a steak or something. My brain goes ???!

And lately I've been annoyed when I see a man taking the place of a woman as an actor, singer, author, whatever. Imagine if the new secretary of health was a woman! That would be great. Tims can play women in movies, but women cannot play tims. Why?

[–] jvsmine 18 points (+19|-1) Edited

because TIMs are women when it suits them and special trans women when it suits them otherwise.

they're LITERALLY EXACTLY THE SAME as bio women but also simultaneously more oppressed and precious and feminine and knowledgeable and stunning and brave.

it's fucking disgusting

[–] VirginiaW 0 points (+0|-0)

Yes. That’s one of the things making me angry. They think they are super special higher caste women.

[–] Nasrin 29 points (+29|-0)

If it helps you feel better, FundieFridays is indeed a man.

That does make me feel better. Thank you!!

I don’t know why I couldn’t find any definitive proof of it. But it was driving me nuts.

[–] Womancup 8 points (+8|-0)

I just Googled him, such a manly jaw

[–] GenderHeretic 3 points (+3|-0)

So did I... and when I saw his photo, all I could think was: Is he in fact this kid, all grown up?

[–] sloth92875257 3 points (+3|-0)

It's the width of the face too. I think proportionally, the face has bigger features too. Look at the distance between eye ball and brow. I think the hair can be a give away too, it never looks right, thin and ....do they not use conditioner? Or is it just balding?

[–] catbitch 4 points (+4|-0) Edited

Wait for real? I honestly just thought they were just a bigger woman. Never got trans vibes or anything. I have a friend who is built pretty much the same way and has a similar voice and is definitely 100% woman. Damn, disappointing. I still like the vids though and find them informative and a guilty pleasure, lol.

[–] ditchwitch 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

I'd never seen this person before but did a quick glance thru a couple vids and they read completely female to me too. Guess I have a way crappier guy-dar than I'd thought...

edit: Scrolled thru their twitter & yeah I definitely gotta get my eyes checked wow...

I googled and yes, the voice, the facial structure, they’re obviously male. He has a naturally high pitched male voice that I’ve never heard in a woman no matter her age, even in TiFs. Also the depth of his features is typically male.

[–] jvsmine 21 points (+21|-0)

it's a valid fear. they're doing everything they can to replace us all while saying that's not what they're doing.

consider this: when a TIM wins an award, if a woman has never won it, TIM is the 'first woman/female winner' but if a woman HAS won the award, TIM is the 'first trans woman' to win the award, completely erasing the fact that a female has won, 'well a WOMAN won, but what about a TRANS woman?!' but also consider if the TIM won first, we couldn't say ' a TRANS woman has won, but what about a CIS woman?'

they're trying to replace us, so it's not shocking that you're anxious and maybe a bit paranoid. I am.

[–] legopants 18 points (+18|-0)

Yep. There was an add for bras earlier on my feed and I'm like 99% sure it was a TiM.

This is happening to me all the damn time now! I find myself being suspicious of women fearing they might be men, mostly online where photoshop and other manipulation is at work.

Given how many nasty AGP are out there trying to trick us, you shouldn't feel guilty. You should feel on heightened alert!

[–] immersang 11 points (+11|-0) Edited

To me, too.

Just the other day I was on a (work) zoom meeting where a few “external” people were present. And for a minute I thought one of them was a TIM. Then she started speaking though and was clearly a woman. (You can always tell with TIMs when it comes to the voice.)

It sucks that this is a possibility we have to factor in regularly now. Of course, being on zoom or generally online, instead of in an actual room with someone, also makes this more difficult.

[–] platypus 4 points (+4|-0)

You can always tell with TIMs when it comes to the voice.

Yup particularly when they laugh or cough, they often forget to fake a "girl cough."

Another one is when they quite something another man said, they usually can't resist showing off their male vocal range a little bit.

[–] zuubat 15 points (+15|-0)

I created a post under Name the Problem about this. Here's the story about a "woman" who murdered an older Asian woman. They call the perp "woman" over and over. Then you scroll down to the photo.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/asian-woman-stabbed-to-death-in-random-attack-in-california

Now to me the thing is, are we being gaslighted? The photo is ambiguous. I searched and searched but found nothing that would indicate one way or the other. But someone commented and had found an article about the perp where the reporter had slipped up and halfway down referred to his something or other.

How often will this be happening, going forward? Police departments, reporters, anything referencing crime - all lying?

Google will not say. Along with Wikipedia and most if not all of the MSM, they've been captured.

[–] SawItComing 13 points (+13|-0)

Yes this happens often, in the UK I have several times read reports about a 'woman' raping a man or collecting childporn, only to scroll down and find that the 'lady' in question has fve o clock shadow and a cro magnon brow ridge.

It's dangerous as hell because it skews crime stats and gives the public a totally false perception of who they should and should not regard as dangerous. It actively undermines public safety.

[–] SawItComing 14 points (+14|-0)

I think TiMs definitely get sneaked in to glossy high fashion ads. You're not wrong for worrying about it because it sets an even more unrealistic 'beauty' standard for women to fit in to because they tend to be even slimmer and more angular than even female high fashion models. This iswhy I was so pissed off when Jaden Smith got a job modelling women's clothes, even though everyone else seemed to think it was the greatest human rights moment since the signing of Magna Carta.

[–] MyCoffeeIsBroken 6 points (+6|-0) Edited

This especially angers me. When I was growing up, we got this "to be attractive you have to look like an 11 yr old boy"- model look shoved in our face as absolute optimum. Today you either have "thicc" models and influencers, who look flawless thanks to Photoshop (the instagramreality subreddit shows what is born out of this "ideal"), or those super thin ones. None of them have cellulite or other flaws, even curvy women seem to often photoshop themselves into having more ideal proportions and smooth skin when actually more weight for many comes with loose skin and other "flaws", why hide them? And young men who are thin and promote women's clothes set even more unrealistic standards. They literally are those skinny boys that female models are supposed to look like. So we are supposed to either look like this caricature with big boobs, big butt, but everything smooth and fat in the perfectly right places, or like thin boys. This is not how many women look like. It's so annoying to have dudes with wigs walking around, not bothered by periods, weak tissue or whatever, setting standards of how women are supposed to look. Sometimes I think most men should just date other men who are prepped as their perfect dream women, measured on models and porn, and leave real women alone. And I'm not saying women can't be thin, or have big butts or boobs or whatever, I'm just so tired of men on both sides determining what women have to look like by being so mouthy about their preferences literally everywhere, or reenacting women without any of the issues women deal with. Women's sports is another example. They just want the pros without any cons. I wonder if they were so eager participating in women's sport if they had less muscle mass and PMS. I even had, in some gay bar, a transvestite in mini skirt and a wig walk up to me to tell me I should dress sexier. He did not even know me. He had no idea what I was dealing with and why I was dressed in "only" jeans and a shirt. Maybe I did not want any male attention? Maybe I did not want to show my body or be sexy? Maybe I just wanted a chill evening with my gay friend? UNTHINKABLE. Being happy when catcalled because it proves to them their passing as women and thinking this goes for real women as well just adds insult to injury. I really thought in a GAY BAR I would be safe from this bs but obviously women's choices and bodies are up for discussion and unwanted advice everywhere.

[–] zuubat 1 points (+1|-0)

Women's sports is another example.

And the grotesquely sexualized outfits even women Olympians are required to wear. I mean, how does anyone run their best race in a bikini?

I try to look at the good side, though: when women's track becomes dominated by TIMs, they'll return to wearing clothing that's optimized for comfort and speed. So the few remaining women won't have to put up with the butt floss anymore.

[–] Aeschleah 11 points (+11|-0)

Now when I see a post about a woman achieving something, I look real hard to make sure it’s not a TIM who’s used male privilege to get where he is, then throw on some sling backs and make up to be applauded more than if he was simply ‘Dave’.

[–] AnnieMacGiver 7 points (+7|-0)

Yes!!!! There is a commercial here in the States for a shower head with a speaker that has a catchy jingle, there are a bunch of people dancing in and around their shower’s all in various states of undress, a TIM pops from behind their shower curtain in a towel and FULL face make up with soaking wet hair. Are we to believe that is how anyone emerges from the shower?! Or is it that without a fully painted face this would just be read as a man in a towel?

[–] sloth92875257 6 points (+6|-0)

Hey, yup. And I'm what you would call a "masculine" lady (thank you PCOS and jaw deformity)

This whole gender bs has made other women respond to me differently and I DO NOT BLAME THEM.

Society is letting men in to our toilets, our organisations, our womens networks. Of course women are on high alert. It's how we survive, being aware in surroundings, clocking everyone.

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