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  • MRA emphasis on "egalitarianism" and "individuality" is the same thing as TRA emphasis on "inclusivity" and "identity".

  • MRAs creating a group of "female oppressors" they called "feminazis" is the same thing as TRAs creating a group of "female oppressors" they call "TERFs" (note: lesbians were the ones most likely to be cast in both of these groups).

  • MRAs stating that female people oppress male people and use feminism as a tool to do it is the same thing as TRAs stating that female ("cis") people oppress male ("trans") people and use radical feminism as a tool to do it.

  • MRAs declaring that the existence of women-only resources and spaces is sexism against men is the same as TRAs claiming that the existence of women-only resources and spaces is transmisogyny against trans women (sexism against men).

  • MRAs stating that there is nothing wrong with porn or prostitution is the same thing as TRAs stating there is nothing wrong with porn or prostitution.

  • MRAs stating that one of the hallmarks of men being oppressed by women is their inability to be emotionally expressive. This is remarkably similar to TRAs stating that their inability to be emotionally validated is one of the hallmarks of trans-identifying male people being oppressed by women.

  • MRAs claiming that feminism needs to focus on men is the same thing as TRAs claiming that feminism needs to focus on trans-identifying male people.

  • MRAs claiming that women have female privilege is the same as TRAs claiming that women have cis privilege and transmen have "masc" privilege.

  • The incel offshoot of MRAs claiming that lesbians should be sexually available to men is the same thing as TRAs claiming that lesbians should be sexually available to TIMs.

Does anyone here remember the group that was the primary opposition to feminism before TRAs came along? MRAs almost nearly suddenly disappeared overnight as a direct force when TRAs stepped into the spotlight.

- MRA emphasis on "egalitarianism" and "individuality" is the same thing as TRA emphasis on "inclusivity" and "identity". - MRAs creating a group of "female oppressors" they called "feminazis" is the same thing as TRAs creating a group of "female oppressors" they call "TERFs" (note: lesbians were the ones most likely to be cast in both of these groups). - MRAs stating that female people oppress male people and use feminism as a tool to do it is the same thing as TRAs stating that female ("cis") people oppress male ("trans") people and use radical feminism as a tool to do it. - MRAs declaring that the existence of women-only resources and spaces is sexism against men is the same as TRAs claiming that the existence of women-only resources and spaces is transmisogyny against trans women (sexism against men). - MRAs stating that there is nothing wrong with porn or prostitution is the same thing as TRAs stating there is nothing wrong with porn or prostitution. - MRAs stating that one of the hallmarks of men being oppressed by women is their inability to be emotionally expressive. This is remarkably similar to TRAs stating that their inability to be emotionally validated is one of the hallmarks of trans-identifying male people being oppressed by women. - MRAs claiming that feminism needs to focus on men is the same thing as TRAs claiming that feminism needs to focus on trans-identifying male people. - MRAs claiming that women have female privilege is the same as TRAs claiming that women have cis privilege and transmen have "masc" privilege. - The incel offshoot of MRAs claiming that lesbians should be sexually available to men is the same thing as TRAs claiming that lesbians should be sexually available to TIMs. Does anyone here remember the group that was the primary opposition to feminism before TRAs came along? MRAs almost nearly suddenly disappeared overnight as a direct force when TRAs stepped into the spotlight.

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[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 31 points

Yep, same people. Likewise incels and transcels. All part of the “manosphere”.

I used to be on the blog Manboobz/We Hunted the Mammoth before the bloke running it sold out completely to the TIMs.

I was there for that, sis. Unbelievable. Remember the AGP who went around yelling at women for using the wrong words? Dave would twiddle his thumbs and do nothing.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 3 points

Yeah, and the other AGP who invaded from Feministe? What a joke, they pretended they were second-wavers over there.

It was such a let down. Manboobz was great fun before they ruined it.

One of the many utterly baffling sellouts. I remember wondering on Ovarit a while back what benefit he could be getting out of it. TIMs are notoriously poor and stingy except when it comes to fueling their fetish; I used to financially support the site but obviously stopped when he started supporting genderwoo and I'm sure he lost plenty of other female readers as well. There's obviously institutional money available for TRA mouthpieces but I think he's too small a fish to get any of it.

I don't know either. I guess he thought he was on his way to being one of those male career feminists. But after that, I mistrust men who go around crowing about how feminist they are.

[–] XxWomanxX 19 points Edited

They both fight for the advancement of privileges to males at the expense of women and children.

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MRAs creating a group of "female oppressors" they called "feminazis" is the same thing as TRAs creating a group of "female oppressors" they call "TERFs" (note: lesbians were the ones most likely to be cast in both of these groups).

TRAs call us nazis as well. Same language, same people.

They both use DARVO and projection, which is why they both call women oppressive Nazis.

I think it was Graham Linehan who noted that most of the same Gamergate goons (with a few exceptions) are now TRAs. The purpose is to bully women.

They're the same picture lol.

But really, they're usually both and the ideologies overlap on their end goal.

MRAs are very much still around, just tend to hang out in less public-facing spaces, but quite a few of them actively transed. Didn't change their worldview, just found that changing their names, pronouns, and wardrobes (essentially rebranding) suddenly made people a lot more deferential to them and more receptive to their brand of misogyny.

So no, you're not imagining things at all. They're literally the same chauvinistic men, in lipstick, wigs, and heels.

Most TIMs admit they had a MRA or nazi phase. Also the transmaxxing thing.