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Gender Critical Feminism
Feminism is the movement to liberate women from patriarchy. We stand up for the rights of women to control our own bodies as individuals and to control women-only spaces as a class.
Women are adult human females. We do not believe that men can become women by 'feeling' like women or 'identifying' as women. We condemn the erasure of females and female-only spaces, the silencing of critical thinking, the cancelling of feminists and critics, the denial of biological reality and of sex-based oppression. We oppose the 'cotton ceiling' and the pressure on lesbians to have sex with men. Women are oppressed to exploit their biological sex characteristics, and women have a right to a movement that is about their own liberation from that oppression. We resist the redefinition of both "women" and "feminism" to make them serve men.
"Women do not decide at some point in adulthood that they would like other people to understand them to be women, because being a woman is not an ‘identity.’ Women’s experience does not resemble that of men who adopt the ‘gender identity’ of being female or being women in any respect. The idea of ‘gender identity’ disappears biology and all the experiences that those with female biology have of being reared in a caste system based on sex." –Sheila Jeffreys, Gender Hurts
"Men often react to women’s words—speaking and writing—as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women’s words with violence. So we lower our voices. Women whisper. Women apologize. Women shut up. Women trivialize what we know. Women shrink. Women pull back. Most women have experienced enough dominance from men—control, violence, insult, contempt—that no threat seems empty." –Andrea Dworkin, Intercourse
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I'm likewise sick of the Gender Inquisition stomping into every community and ensuring everyone either affirms the faith or gets the stake.
EVERYONE EXPECTS THE GENDER INQUISITION
No one expects the Gender Inquisition.
Finally! Mods with a backbone!
Good. What happened there just shows that TRAs don't care about making their own spaces. They want to rewrite and destroy others. If women that menstruate trigger them so much, they could easily make their own a subreddit catered towards them called "r/transmenperiods" or "r/nbperiods" or something like that. They are not the majority, and no girl should have to shrink and hide her experiences because some man in a dress doesn't like it.
They ended up making one called r/menstruationstation and have been whining a lot about r/periods.
That's all it's gonna be in the end. A sub for whining about the other sub, similar to GenCyn.
Women existing unapologetically makes TRAs lose their shit.
There was already one called r/InclusiveMenstruation. And they could have posted in r/periods as much as they wanted if they would just post about periods, and not demand to be catered to because of their trans status. If someone posted, "I started hormone treatment with T and ever since then, I've had such-and-such problem with my periods, is this common?" I doubt anyone would have rained hate on the poster for that.
clearly the purpose of this subreddit is to rant about r/periods
Holy shit, from their mod post:
"Most of us are here because of the problems we've faced with r/periods' transphobia. To make things clear...
Men can menstruate. Not all women menstruate."
Apparently menstruating is now a male specific phenomena that women can only occasionally partake in. What is happening to the world? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Women can't have anything for ourselves. It's always "BuT wHaT aBoUt MeN."
They are parasitic and cannot survive independently.
The mods are terfs! /s (I bet they did peak trans with this, though.)
Good for them.
I think they definitely did or already peaked a while ago. It seems like more and more female reddit users are getting fed up with trans stuff being mentioned on every woman-oriented sub.
Yup, and that's exactly why I'm off Reddit. I didn't even care about TRAs (and I still don't really give a hoot about non-extremist transfolk) until the language police showed up making nonsensical, anti-science, Newspeak demanding posts. I guess it's a blessing, because now that I'm off Reddit I realize what a toxic place it is for women in general, and I realize how often I policed my comments and combed over photos to remove any hint that I was female.
Ding, ding, ding. Why any women wants into the boys club where she can't be herself is beyond me.
Truee, ugh. Menstruators almost peaked me. When the whole JKR thing was going on, I remember journaling about how I was scared I was becoming a TERF, lol. A little while later in a woman's only sub (not two x but similar in tone and politics) a woman argued against menstruators and in favor of JKR and was downvoted to hell.
I remember reading that and thinking "Are we really going to discount this woman's opinion because the minuscule amount of trans people in the world might dislike it?" A few weeks after that I peaked from another source (see my other comment here) and joined r/GenderCritical.
It's even worse in Facebook groups. I have basically unfollowed sooo many groups after they started unironically using terms like "vulva haver" or asking everyone to answer a poll with choices like "i'm a cis woman and i agree / i'm a trans woman and i agree /[...] " etc. The kids are not all right.
I actually peaked because of video games of all things, lol. It was fairly recently but with the release of The Last of Us 2, I finally noticed how apparently every triple A game needs to have a trans character and also, that they're always TiFs. Like wtf? Is it maybe because the gaming industries sees TiFs as men but not TiMs as women? Or is it because with most TiFs you can basically make a male character model and give them special dialogue but TiMs rarely pass if they transitioned after puberty so they'd have to make an entirely new character model??
Either way, I considered getting Tell Me Why (new game by the makers of Life is Strange) but of coooourse it's a trans narrative again. Maybe it's the Baader Meinhof phenomenon or something but ever since I peaked, suddenly Trans narratives are everywhere, whining about how there's no representation. Like dudes, I wish. I can't escape it. One of the YouTubers I follow has a TiM as a narrator and the commentors constantly use "him/he" because, well... it's a male voice despite the name they go by.
Sorry, rant over, lol.
I love it. Let the TRAs be their own undoing by peaking all the normal women who just want to get on with life without being bludgeoned by trans issues everywhere they go.
on r/PCOS there was a lot of women pissed about the "inclusive" rules and found it dehumanizing to refer to themselves as "ovary havers"
They aren't banning trans posting - just banning trolling. They have had a lot of TRA posters trolling recently.
I know, that’s why I said that’s meant to get people to infight. It seems like as long as people don’t bring gender ideology up, there won’t be an issue. The TRAs have apparently gone off and made their own period sub now too, even though there was never an issue. They made this a bigger issue than it needed to be.
A common occurrence when dealing with personality disorders...
A TIF posted within the past couple of hours saying she was a trans man and asking for advice with her period and she got advice without a single word mentioning her being a TIF. So yeah, they're just banning trolling.
This is awesome!! But, quite frankly, do you think they’ll get banned because of this?
I was wondering too, and it’s likely. I guess we will find out :(.
I think it's possible, it boggles the mind how a periods subreddit probably won't be allowed to exist because checks notes men cannot come in and make it about them?
Or maybe they'll try their whole infiltration & takeover strategy first where the admins institute a TRA-friendly mod, that mod adds a few trans mods, and presto change-o, now it's a sub for transmen talking about how manly it is to have periods and transwomen thinking some random constipation pain is the same as period cramps.
Maybe, but I doubt it. They're not banning trans posts at all, just the language police really.
Aaaaaand I've just joined r/Periods now because any space that actually looks out for women needs to be supported.
When PCOS got shut down they made a post explicitly offering women from r/PCOS to shelter there and wait for updates about alternate subs. It really insulted them, and most of the women affected on r/PCOS that such an important space had been turned into a policing ground by GIEs. I approached them as a mod of a women's ovarian health sub and they were happy to have me reach out to women through their sub and were really supportive. Mods of that sub are legends, basically.
Wait PCOS got shut down? Luckily I don't suffer so I never looked into the sub, but that's just fucked up on so many levels holy shit. The Gender Critical ban (along with numerous other subs) was obviously sexist garbage, but it is an explicitly political sub. Shutting down a support group for women with a chronic condition... yikes
Shut down, mods replaced with TIMS and other males (non-sufferers basically) then reinstated as an "inclusive space" with TIMs in comments rejoicing and saying "we're basically the same anyway; women with high testosterone".
Seems reasonable to me.
Seems like a step in the right direction!
Interesting there is also r/peoplewhomenstruate which seems to be a new GC sub using reddit approved language of “people who menstruate” and “ejaculators.”