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[–] RawSienna 41 points (+41|-0)

It’s time to have a very serious discussion about the ethics and legality of having kids on the internet at all.

[–] [Deleted] 9 points (+9|-0)

I've been thinking the very same for a looooooooooooooong time.

[–] hmimperialtortie 35 points (+35|-0)

He knew that he was trans because when he put girl clothes on his video game avatar, he felt “euphoria”.

I immediately thought, they need to check what he’s been looking at online. That screams porn use. The very word is what AGPs call their crossdressing boners. Makes me wonder if he’s been on Peddit and been groomed.

[–] LOriginedumonde 22 points (+22|-0)

I assume he was, the mom mentioned egg_IRL by name.

[–] hmimperialtortie 20 points (+20|-0)

Gah, I missed that. Exactly the sub I would expect.

Porn and paedophilia really are the elephants in the room with trans.

[–] goatsauce 13 points (+13|-0)

It stands out a lot that "euphoria" isn't a word most teen boys are going to whip out of their lexicon naturally. It's not a normal word to use very often in conversation at all if you don't spend time in online gender spaces. It's a convenient euphemism, because "euphoria" in this context is vague enough to mean anything from "comforted" to "pleased" to "horny" and you never get clarity on what actual feeling is underlying the situation.

[–] emptiedriver 4 points (+4|-0)

It's like "awesome" to me, a word that used to mean something profound and has come to be teenage slang...

[–] yikesforever 17 points (+17|-0)

I still don't see how gender identity can be anything but a mental illness. She talks about it being biological vs mental, but it's often biological for other mental illnesses too, like depression. I'm not even sure you can divide the mind from the body, it's a part of it. Perhaps biological vs social is a better division, where social pressure can lead to things like anorexia.

When your mind doesn't experience reality the way it is, that is a mental illness.

[–] Jinera 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

I think, it might also be a neurological disorder. Same way as BIID which its very similar to. At least, for the people who actually experience gender dysphoria. I think nowadays a lot of people who think they experience GD are actually just mentally ill and confuse their insecurity or unhappiness with having GD

[–] Deckard 14 points (+14|-0)

Great piece, thank you for sharing. These two quotes were the ones that stood out the most to me:

The pharmaceutical companies and gender identity clinics — the whole industry that’s popped up to solve this new problem that they themselves marketed — would be on the hook, sued out of existence, and deprived of their revenue stream. ... There are also medical professionals, therapists, ethicists, politicians and philosophers horrified by the ethical implications of medicalizing what really seems to be personality traits, and that many — if not most — of them are afraid to speak out because of the inevitable and likely career-ending backlash.

[–] [Deleted] 12 points (+12|-0)

We can’t ask these real and valid questions about gender dysphoria and confusion because other parents, doctors and therapists DIDN’T ask them before they prescribed puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to kids and young adults. And now, those involved cannot subject themselves to these questions because, if they were wrong — and transgender is a mental condition, not a biological one — they just gave their kids experimental hormones and allowed surgery on their healthy bodies to treat a mental illness. Then the doctors are liable. The therapists are liable. The activists would have to admit that they have not literally transitioned themselves to the opposite sex. The pharmaceutical companies and gender identity clinics — the whole industry that’s popped up to solve this new problem that they themselves marketed — would be on the hook, sued out of existence, and deprived of their revenue stream.

Yuuuuuuup!

[–] Jem 5 points (+5|-0)

As a parent of a trans identifying young person, one thing irks me about this account which I've read other parents saying. That their kids were gender conforming until one they weren't. They consider this proof that their kids aren't actually trans. Well my kid was never particularly gender conforming. Neither am I. Or my mother. Or her mother. That doesn't make any of us trans.