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I just watched Ellen/Elliot Page's recent interview with Oprah today...here are my takeaways.

The level of deep-seeded internalized misogyny struck me most. It's almost painful to watch. I sympathize with her hearing her speak. Knowing the pressure on regular women to look sexually pleasing and attractive to men, I can't imagine how that pressure would be multiplied for women in the public eye. It almost makes sense - the only way Ellen Page could avoid being sexualized and ridiculed for her looks was to identify as a man.

A couple of other things:

  1. She looks sick. Her voice is quivering. It's almost tough to see.
  2. Disappointingly no questions on how she knew she was a man other than her wanting short hair and having male friends as a kid. Felt like pandering.
  3. The term "gender euphoria"... she uses this a lot. This is a really weird way to characterize gender dysphoria.
  4. Her lack of confidence - she seems scared and uncomfortable the entire time.

I just felt bad for her. It seems like her life in hollywood really made her feel a lack of agency. I simultaneously wanted to hug her and shake her and scream "YOU CAN WEAR A SUIT TO THE OSCARS THATS FINE!"

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I just watched Ellen/Elliot Page's recent interview with Oprah today...here are my takeaways. The level of deep-seeded internalized misogyny struck me most. It's almost painful to watch. I sympathize with her hearing her speak. Knowing the pressure on regular women to look sexually pleasing and attractive to men, I can't imagine how that pressure would be multiplied for women in the public eye. It almost makes sense - the only way Ellen Page could avoid being sexualized and ridiculed for her looks was to identify as a man. A couple of other things: 1. She looks sick. Her voice is quivering. It's almost tough to see. 2. Disappointingly no questions on how she knew she was a man other than her wanting short hair and having male friends as a kid. Felt like pandering. 3. The term "gender euphoria"... she uses this a lot. This is a really weird way to characterize gender dysphoria. 4. Her lack of confidence - she seems scared and uncomfortable the entire time. I just felt bad for her. It seems like her life in hollywood really made her feel a lack of agency. I simultaneously wanted to hug her and shake her and scream "YOU CAN WEAR A SUIT TO THE OSCARS THATS FINE!" Edit - grammar

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[–] Hollyhock 41 points (+41|-0) Edited

My mother instincts went on overdrive watching her talk to Oprah - she's a very vulnerable woman who has been taken in by lies/ideology and irresponsible medicine.Elliot is clearly a distressed individual and probably has suffered a lot of mental health issues for a long time, whether diagnosed or not...she looks and talks nothing like a man, but rather a very troubled woman who I just wanted to hug and say, "It's ok, let me help you. Fuck dresses and heels, and fuck objectification of women. Let's get you real help." Her distress with her naked breasts and being made to dress up in sexualized clothing makes me wonder if she wasn't been sexually abused or raped at a young age.

Yeah the hatred of her body was really jarring for me. I struggled with an eating disorder for many years and I can totally relate to that. You just get so sick of being commodified that you feel like you hate your body. It makes you feel so weak and vulnerable.

[–] [Deleted] 7 points (+7|-0)

Most of us were, and this is particularly true in Hollywood. So safe to say probably yes

[–] platypus 3 points (+3|-0)

makes me wonder if she wasn't been sexually abused or raped at a young age.'

Page starred in an American Crime at the tender age 20. She enacted the true story a 16 year old girl who was horribly abused to death, known as one of the most cruel and brutal murders to ever take place.
She's done a lot of very traumatic roles. Teen pregnancy and abortion (Juno), rape (Into the Forest), pedophilia (Hard Candy and Super), substance abuse and extreme poverty (Trailer Park Boys)... she was in Trailer Park Boys at just 15.

A former Disney star named Alyson Stoner recently spoke out about the trauma she developed as a young girl from auditioning for sexually violent roles. I think it's time we started considering the toll this kind of trauma reenactment takes on the psyche, especially for very young actors. Of course Page may have been directly abused herself, but even if she hadn't, I wouldn't be surprised if she developed some kind of CPTSD simply from living in the headspace of such violently troubled characters.