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I just watched Ellen/Elliot Page's recent interview with Oprah today...here are my takeaways.

The level of deep-seeded internalized misogyny struck me most. It's almost painful to watch. I sympathize with her hearing her speak. Knowing the pressure on regular women to look sexually pleasing and attractive to men, I can't imagine how that pressure would be multiplied for women in the public eye. It almost makes sense - the only way Ellen Page could avoid being sexualized and ridiculed for her looks was to identify as a man.

A couple of other things:

  1. She looks sick. Her voice is quivering. It's almost tough to see.
  2. Disappointingly no questions on how she knew she was a man other than her wanting short hair and having male friends as a kid. Felt like pandering.
  3. The term "gender euphoria"... she uses this a lot. This is a really weird way to characterize gender dysphoria.
  4. Her lack of confidence - she seems scared and uncomfortable the entire time.

I just felt bad for her. It seems like her life in hollywood really made her feel a lack of agency. I simultaneously wanted to hug her and shake her and scream "YOU CAN WEAR A SUIT TO THE OSCARS THATS FINE!"

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I just watched Ellen/Elliot Page's recent interview with Oprah today...here are my takeaways. The level of deep-seeded internalized misogyny struck me most. It's almost painful to watch. I sympathize with her hearing her speak. Knowing the pressure on regular women to look sexually pleasing and attractive to men, I can't imagine how that pressure would be multiplied for women in the public eye. It almost makes sense - the only way Ellen Page could avoid being sexualized and ridiculed for her looks was to identify as a man. A couple of other things: 1. She looks sick. Her voice is quivering. It's almost tough to see. 2. Disappointingly no questions on how she knew she was a man other than her wanting short hair and having male friends as a kid. Felt like pandering. 3. The term "gender euphoria"... she uses this a lot. This is a really weird way to characterize gender dysphoria. 4. Her lack of confidence - she seems scared and uncomfortable the entire time. I just felt bad for her. It seems like her life in hollywood really made her feel a lack of agency. I simultaneously wanted to hug her and shake her and scream "YOU CAN WEAR A SUIT TO THE OSCARS THATS FINE!" Edit - grammar

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[–] worried19 40 points (+40|-0)

I would assume Oprah's audience is mostly older women. Surely some of them have noticed how horrible Page looks? We can't be the only ones discussing this. Are any of them leaving comments about this online? Seeing Page's condition, I find it hard to believe that all the reactions are positive.

[–] Veneficca 34 points (+34|-0)

My friend - straight, 50, not terribly political - said she felt like she was watching one of those child soldier-boys you see in some countries, trying to be brave and stoic at 12 years old while scared as hell. She asked me "do they all look like that?" (She doesn't know a single trans person.) It roused her maternal instincts, it was like hearing her talk about a child. I kept reminding her Page is in her 30s. It definitely wasn't what she expected.

[–] Jack_the_Lass 12 points (+12|-0)

Page definitely came across as child like in the interview snippets I saw.

[–] Hollyhock 26 points (+26|-0) Edited

I'm a middle-aged mother of girls and it's so obvious Elliot is a very vulnerable woman who needs help.

[–] immersang 13 points (+13|-0)

Not older women, but for what it's worth: they discussed the interview on a message board mostly populated by gay men that I sometimes lurk in, and many of them commented the same thing. How bad / sick she looks.

[–] questioningtw 5 points (+5|-0)

Over on Gencyn there where a few people saying she looked sick, they were quickly shut down by the mods though that insisted she looked handsome. It is creepy how deep they are in preventing wrongthink.