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My autocorrect doesn’t even offer the word matriarchy.

I’m still mad about that stupid “Cooking with Trans Women of Color,” mostly about the Colombian dish that stated families ate it under “matriarchal leadership.” In other words Mom telling everyone that dinner is ready.

Every culture in the world has mothers that tell you to sit down and eat your damn spaghetti. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

This is a common pattern I see with woke people. They claim most other cultures are matriarchal. They claim their own are, or their families are.

I don’t care if Mom is head of the household. That’s not matriarchy. Note that it begins and ends with the family. The “leadership” evaporates when it comes to courts, government, means of production, and spirituality. They are few and far between, the higher up you go.

If Colombia were a matriarchy it wouldn’t have a high femicide rate. Or rape.

Stop humble-bragging that your single mom made all the decisions. She had to do all the work because men usually don’t think they have to pitch in. And her power diminishes every step she takes further from the house.

Patriarchy covers the planet. There are degrees of it but it’s everywhere. It’s atrocity denial to say that all other cultures are matriarchal Smurf villages. You are denying what women the world over go through. You are sugarcoating the overwhelming dominance of patriarchy.

My autocorrect doesn’t even offer the word matriarchy. I’m still mad about that stupid “Cooking with Trans Women of Color,” mostly about the Colombian dish that stated families ate it under “matriarchal leadership.” In other words Mom telling everyone that dinner is ready. Every culture in the world has mothers that tell you to sit down and eat your damn spaghetti. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining. This is a common pattern I see with woke people. They claim most other cultures are matriarchal. They claim their own are, or their families are. I don’t care if Mom is head of the household. That’s not matriarchy. Note that it begins and ends with the family. The “leadership” evaporates when it comes to courts, government, means of production, and spirituality. They are few and far between, the higher up you go. If Colombia were a matriarchy it wouldn’t have a high femicide rate. Or rape. Stop humble-bragging that your single mom made all the decisions. She had to do all the work because men usually don’t think they have to pitch in. And her power diminishes every step she takes further from the house. Patriarchy covers the planet. There are degrees of it but it’s everywhere. It’s atrocity denial to say that all other cultures are matriarchal Smurf villages. You are denying what women the world over go through. You are sugarcoating the overwhelming dominance of patriarchy.

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[–] tamata 51 points (+52|-1)

That's ridiculously stupid, I did not realize that some people had this stance.

I'm from the Middle East, which is absolutely smothered by atrocious misogyny due to Islamic beliefs and practices. Women are, by and large, the head of the households. They are the ones making sure the house and children's affairs are all in order. They make a lot of the important household decisions while the father is away or passive. Also, one of the most interesting observations I've made growing up is that the children usually follow the mother's Islam and not the father's. Islam is extremely arbitrary and people practice it with an extraordinary amount of variation. The father being gone most of the time means that if the mother is okay with television and music, or social media, or eating Ramen noodles and Mcdonalds, the children will be, too, regardless of what the father thinks, and his family overpowers him as the children get older.

Does this mean that the mother is respected in her society and even her own household? No. Does this mean that the mother is protected by the law in case her husband wants to divorce her and take the children? No.

Does this mean JACK SHIT other than the fact that the father isn't interested in doing chores and raising his children? No, I do not believe that it does.

[–] proudcatlady 21 points (+22|-1)

Exactly. In evangelical Christianity husbands are supposed to be “head of household” (nvm that’s not what the Bible actually says; it’s good for male ego so it must be true). However, most men disengage from their families regardless of religion, so the women are the de facto leaders. Doesn’t mean they get treated with any respect or that they matter outside of that sphere. And if hubby wants to pack up and head somewhere else, they go regardless of how she feels or what she wants.

[–] Tnetennba 19 points (+19|-0) Edited

It's absolutely bonkers how conservative Christian culture has no biblical basis for 99% of its rules.

Almost like it's an excuse for men to be sexually and culturally dominant...

[–] proudcatlady 3 points (+3|-0)

Someone else in this thread had a good list of pretty unambiguously sexist Bible verses. The ones in I Timothy were particularly bad. Some of the others have been debunked as mistranslations but I have a lot more reading to don

[–] Amareldys 6 points (+6|-0)

Um the Bible is not innocent on this subject...

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

Genesis 2:18 Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.”

1 Timothy 2:12 ESV / 51 helpful votes I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

Colossians 3:18 ESV / 44 helpful votes Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

1 Peter 3:1 ESV / 37 helpful votes Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives,

Titus 2:5 ESV / 30 helpful votes To be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

[–] proudcatlady 3 points (+3|-0)

Thanks for the summary! I’ll have to look into those. Currently I’m more into Jesus and throwing Paul out because he clearly had personal problems with women.

[–] bellatrixbells 9 points (+9|-0)

Ha ! I love your interventions, are you still intending to make further posts on the subject ? I read them eagerly !

[–] Stealthygal 7 points (+7|-0)

Yeah, I've noticed that the stereotype of Middle Eastern men is that the only person they will absolutely bow down to is their mum. Which ultimately seems to mean that a woman's best route to power is birthing sons, who, once adult, will take care of her and do as she tells them - at least, when she's around. It's not very reliable.