[–] PlainSimpleTailor 77 points (+78|-1)

Once in a while they cherry pick ranty comments or mediocre memes and make fun of them, that's it. I feel the stalking used to be more intense in the r/GC days. They are so far into the "TERFs are a hate group, they never argue their position consisely and just slander trans people all day" narrative that they can't afford to actually take a closer look, because it might alert them to the contradictions in their own thinking.

[–] PotatoParameter 86 points (+87|-1)

I've noticed that their content stream has dwindled as well. I browsed gendercritical for about a month before it was banned, so I didn't notice how active it was, but Ovarit produces 2.5 pages of new posts a day and they barely get content from that.

I think that they have to cherry pick stuff (which led to a lack of material for them) because most of Ovarit is coherent, makes sense to the normal person, and they don't want to accidentally peak the people of the subreddit. I bet some of those who used to search Ovarit/GC for posts to make fun at peaked (that's how I and most women I know got here) and it's only a matter of time until we get a post that says "I used to contribute to AHS/GenCyn and now I've peaked". This comment must hit a bit too close to home for the lurkers, and they won't screencap this for their subreddit because they know it's true 😉

[–] PlainSimpleTailor 73 points (+74|-1) Edited

I bet some of those who used to search Ovarit/GC for posts to make fun at peaked (that's how I and most women I know got here)

Yes, I am one of them. It's like, once you actually start listening to women, you notice that you aren't so different from them after all and they're not the hysteric harpies they've been painted as. You know, a feminist classic, when you stop feeling like "you're not like other girls" because you start connecting with said girls directly instead of believing what others say about them.

[–] eyeswideopen 32 points (+32|-0)

Yup. I was skimming AHS one day, saw a long write-up on GC, headed over to see the "hate" for myself and stayed for the discussions and dissections of subjects that had begun to pick at the edge of my consciousness, but on which I hadn't had the time to do more reading and thinking.

The mockery was helpful in that regard - "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident"

[–] Boudicaea 32 points (+32|-0)

Me too. I think I may have learned about r/GC from AHS, actually. Hard to remember now. But I had joined it because I heard they were trying to get TheDonald banned.

[–] tacocat 11 points (+11|-0)

I'm glad you're here. I like reading your posts; you write clearly and thoughtfully, and your posts are a pleasure to read. :)

[–] remquarqk 17 points (+18|-1) Edited

Yeah I've noticed that too. Sometimes I actually go there to see how they're making fun of us because often it's ridiculous, and they do cherry-pick the more random things from here, like someone posting something kind of conservative that doesn't even really vibe much with the rest of the users here. It's like the content went down because the majority realized we're actually quite sane.

[–] ComplicatedSpirit 11 points (+11|-0)

I seem to recall one of them saying either on reddit or tumblr something like “we can’t let them make posts like this, what if other people see it and read it and they agree with them? Because that’s a huge danger with these people, they’re so convincing.”

I’m sure that ss is around here somewhere.

We should infiltrate the sub and post content from Ovarit and trigger another peakening lmao

I bet this comment gets screenshotted - Dont worry guys, i have a whole job & life, so little time to be playing your games.

[–] RisingUp 28 points (+29|-1)

I think a lot of what they used to post from r/GC was from the right wing men who used to crawl all over the sub, not from any actual radfems.

And some of it was TRAs making an account to say awful things and attribute them to us.

They can’t get the content any more because Ovarit has invite codes.

[–] vauqueline 10 points (+11|-1)

That fear is fully founded. GenderCynical was exactly the forum that made me go, "Wow, these folx talk a lot like my sexually and psychologically abusive exes talking shit about me to my friends -- something smells funny and even though I'm still 100% pro trans, I should check the truth of what they're saying." Then I checked for myself and found the GenCyners are lying liars who intentionally and hyperbolically lie about women to make women look awful. If it hadn't been for them and their open narcissism, I may even still be a TRA.

[–] milpathecat 49 points (+49|-0)

They can't stand it that women are allowed to express themselves at all.

[–] pennygadget 47 points (+47|-0)

Because their sub lost its reason to exist when r/GC got purged. So they have to come here to find shit to whine about

[–] yikesforever 47 points (+62|-15)

People here do the same though. People post stuff from Reddit all the time.

[–] Radical 66 points (+66|-0) Edited

The difference is that we didn't want to "get rid" of them like they did with us, nor did we chase them off a social media platform. Notice how all of their subreddits are still up and active.

From their harassment, attempts at censorship, graphic threats of rape and murder, descriptions of their fantasies about killing/hurting us, etc... it's clear that there's only one true "hateful" side.

They got what they wanted (validation, demonising "terfs", censoring women they disagree with), but we didn't get what we wanted (freedom to discuss the issues important to us on reddit without being subjected to graphic threats & harassment, the rules of reddit to apply equally to these violent people, not having our subreddits removed). They "won". So why are they still obsessed with us? Why do they go out of their way to stalk and infiltrate our spaces?

[–] Tnetennba 20 points (+20|-0)

They're pathological bullies and solipsistic narcissists. They don't feel good unless they're hurting someone.

[–] Lilith-Fair 27 points (+28|-1)

Personally I could care less and I skip posts here about Reddit shit, but it's not the same. People here were kicked out and banned. On Reddit those stalkers kicked us out.

[–] guiltandgrief 19 points (+19|-0)

Some of us are still on reddit.

Ovarit is a great platform but it doesn't have some of the niche communities I frequent on reddit (and no, I don't expect it to.)

Stuff gets posted here because they drag their nonsense into every community on reddit, regardless of it being relevant to that specific sub. We're not seeking it out the same way they are and making fun of it.

[–] notyourfetish 6 points (+6|-0)

Yes, I think that's the main difference here.

They constantly invade our spaces and we complain about it. But they are actually hunting us down to ridicule us. It's not remotely the same.

[–] hmimperialtortie 46 points (+46|-0)

We are women who say no and they are men with no lives.

[–] Nurvilya 16 points (+16|-0)

I second this. They have no lives, nothing else to do beside seeking validation and harrassing those who don't validate them. Simple as that.

[–] Belemnite 10 points (+10|-0) Edited

And at this point the woke world tells them they’re the good guys for hating us. Their hatred, misogyny and bullying is all justifiable and righteous. Warm fuzzies for them... until they actually start to think for themselves.

[–] Tnetennba 7 points (+7|-0)

The only thing they have to do is waiting for mum to tell them their chicken tendies are ready.

[–] yesisaiditxx 3 points (+3|-0)

I can’t help but wonder if it’s not also that we’re women. Period. The same way many want to befriend women just to analyze how “to woman” I think a lot want to come here and see what we say so they can also train themselves to appear not like that.

[–] thedarkhorse 32 points (+32|-0)

I don't mind them. Free advertising. Also I have a quick browse sometimes and they highlight some things I missed.

[–] Moonstone 29 points (+29|-0)

They will never be happy until every last woman is silenced and our spaces are eradicated

[–] EmilyJ 19 points (+20|-1) Edited

When you hate something very much , it lives in your mind Rent free . That’s why many a times we experience a feeling that something which we hate we find it in “unusually high numbers” even though when taken from a neutral person they might say the number is low .

Because we go out and actively seek hatred because we kinda become obsessed with it !

[–] emptiedriver 15 points (+15|-0)

They just want to feel good about themselves and think that they are right. Back when the r/gc subs were still a thing I used to read them sometimes and I always wanted to comment and correct their claims because they just constantly post misinformed, poorly argued, sloppily presumed responses to what they find. It's really frustrating, but of course they don't want conversation, they are not "a debate sub", their whole purpose is to point and laugh and reassure themselves that there are no cracks in the firmament.

I think they don't even allow links to posts from debate subs and are very heavily moderated to keep out any posts that might tip anyone the wrong way.. I doubt they post too much from Ovarit. They probably capture a few random out of context comments here or there, but otherwise find any dumb or bad anti-TR arguments from twitter, and combine it with news/ memes they misrepresent or take from their angle. But if there's too much rational conversation on the link, it'll be bothersome for them.

[–] Turtlefuzz 10 points (+11|-1)

They just want to feel good about themselves and think that they are right.

I think this is the heart of the matter. They think that by taking our posts out of context, or deliberately missing the point, they find some kind of "gotcha!". They think this will somehow convince people that GC feminists are evil and don't deserve to have a voice in the trans issue.

From what I see of their posts recently, they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. They frame perfectly reasonable arguments as insane.

They do occasionally find a transphobic comment (slurs, calling for harm against trans, etc) and that should be called out. But those comments never come from Ovarit.

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