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In a recent video MN Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan spoke in favor of sex changes for minors saying that it is life affirming and life saving "healthcare" and that "when our children tell us who they are, it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to believe them. That's what it means to be a good parent.". Meaning that if your children tells you he/she is of the opposite sex you should believe them and set them up for gender "affirming" care.

A wrong headed statement if there ever was one. The role of the parent is not to just believe and affirm everything their children want/say, that is irresponsible and even dangerous parenting.

Link to the tweet with the video: https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1636146393130627079

In a recent video MN Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan spoke in favor of sex changes for minors saying that it is life affirming and life saving "healthcare" and that *"when our children tell us who they are, it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to believe them. That's what it means to be a good parent."*. Meaning that if your children tells you he/she is of the opposite sex you should believe them and set them up for gender "affirming" care. A wrong headed statement if there ever was one. The role of the parent is not to just believe and affirm everything their children want/say, that is irresponsible and even dangerous parenting. Link to the tweet with the video: https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1636146393130627079

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I knew my dad was being a dick when he told me I couldn’t be a donkey when I grew up. I remember it now, it’s one of my earliest memories.

My mother did nothing to defend me and just backed him up.

Now I’m a biped with opposable thumbs and responsibilities.

When I think to what I could have been if my truth had not been crushed...

So sorry to hear about this abuse and neglect by such passe parenting. Here:🥕

I’m offended

How can you offer her that carrot?!?

Have you no sympathy for my people….

/s

OMG!!! Let me scourge and prostate myself for this unintended VIOLENCE towards you and your people!!!!! I'm looking on Amazon for a hair shirt right this minute!!! Do you have a flag I can sew on it?

I'm so sorry for your trauma. I was just thinking of similar instance when my kid insisted they were a fish (while wearing a Nemo costume). I deeply regret not affirming their identity and building a giant aquarium.

If my child comes to me and says she hates her body, it is my job as her parent to listen and to believe what she is telling me about her feelings.

It is not my job to affirm her hatred of her body and assure her that with enough cosmetic surgery she will one day be able to "be herself."

If my child comes to me and says he is really a girl inside because of the clothes and toys and hobbies he likes and how he wishes people would treat him, it is my job to listen and believe him about his feelings.

It is not my job to affirm the sexism he has internalized. It is not my job to tell him that he's right, the sort of personality he has is only for girls, and therefore we must change him into a girl.

Being the grown up does not mean abandoning a child to their fears. The fuck?

I knew a girl whose parents got her breast implants when she was 16. She was 21 when I knew her, and she was... not doing well.

This. Can I please steal this basic answer if I need?

I love it.

As much as anybody can steal common sense, absolutely you can. :)

So true! If your daughter says she's an ugly fatass, its your job as a parent to buy her diet pills, arrange her lap band surgery, and get her liposuction. It doesn't matter if her BMI says she's already dangerously underweight. BMI is a social construct and also a bigot! And don't ask her or her therapist to examine why she thinks she's fat when she only weighs 70 pounds because that's conversion therapy! Its way healthier to feed her pills and give her surgeries than it is to teach her to accept her body and have a more balanced relationship with food!

[–] Hera 37 points Edited

I really wish someone would just go stand up there and read out the side effects of "totally safe" blockers, such as brain damage and osteoporosis. I would love to see them talk about the dangers of T for young women, about the extremely high risk for thromboembolism, cardiomegaly, and vaginal prolapse. I really wish someone would go up there and describe just how "neophallus" and "neovaginas" are created, that being from the carved up flesh of a woman's arm and the transplanted blind pocket made out of a man's shit chute. I want this up there, and I want it with pictures.

I want them to see that the only way the "neophallus" becomes erect is with a saline or air bag implanted into the woman's body. I want them to see the foul yeast and ecoli infested discharge that leaks from a neovagina if the man neglects to ram a douche and a dildo in it every day. I want them to see this, really SEE it, for the barbarism it is. I want them to see they are little different than the prehistoric humans we often laugh at for having drugged up kids and left them to perish on the mountains to appease the ire of some make-believe god.

I would live to see them, in the fact of all this ghoulish evidence, still try and say this is "care".

Go OFF! Fully agree with everything you said here. People have ZERO idea what they are endorsing. It’s all pastel flags and pronouns to them. When someone says it’s not happening to kids, bring up Jazz. “Really? There’s a whole show about a mutilated kid who is now sterile and will never have an orgasm or a normal life.”

[–] pennygadget 14 points Edited

"Really? There’s a whole show about a mutilated kid who is now sterile and will never have an orgasm or a normal life.”

Not to mention all the other problems that poor kid has.

Jazz is super depressed, overweight, and on about a dozen daily medications. He had to have multiple revision surgeries on his crotch. But other than that, he's totally healthy!

[–] Women2Women 27 points Edited

A good parent sets boundaries for their children while they are too young to know what is good for them. Children want and experiment with all sorts of things which may not be age appropriate or safe. A child may want to run down an active train track, or "fly" off a bridge like a bird. Does a caring parent let them? No, they explain to them why that is not a good idea. And sometimes just say NO. Boundaries. To help them grow up safe, to adulthood.

This Gov. is just plain ignorant, or more likely a Democrat making sure she parrots back what her "base" wants to hear so she can stay in power.

I now identify as Lt. Governor of MN! So Peggy Flanagan needs to get the fuck out of MY office and stop collecting MY salary before I get depressed and kill myself!!!

[–] itsanorange 22 points Edited

Regardless of how moronic this philosophy is, why don't they ever consider this is exactly what pedophiles want? To consider a child, regardless of brain development and life experience, perfectly capable of making their own decisions? Including going along with an adult who abuses them?

Children are not capable of understanding, that's why we have to protect them. You wouldn't bother trying to explain college level math to a 5 year old, because you know it would be unfair, they simply don't have the brain power. But when it comes to gender ideology bullshit, all of a sudden a 5 year old is perfectly advanced enough to understand what medications and surgeries do, the lifelong irreversible effects? All kids do is parrot whatever sexist gender roles you keep feeding them, only now we've invented a monstrous punishment for children who don't comply. Sexism+, now with mutilation.

Edit: I also don't think it's just me who has this happen: suddenly recalling a childhood memory and with your adult mind, realizing you were wronged? But you didn't know it at the time? It's hard for children to recognize when they are being wronged, they're isolated and impressionable! They are extremely vulnerable to suggestion and manipulation! And these childhood experiences affect your entire life! WHY HAVE WE SUDDENLY REVERSED COURSE ON THIS

I also don't think it's just me who has this happen: suddenly recalling a childhood memory and with your adult mind, realizing you were wronged? But you didn't know it at the time?

Yeah, I have quite a few childhood memories where I think nowadays: "WTF did I not tell my parents that?" (They happen to all be about men who I now suspect were pedos. They did not touch me, I hope I would have known to tell my parents in that case, but they were acting weird enough for me to remember for all those years. I just didn't know it was ... wrong.)

I mean....if people are arguing that a child can consent to have adults carve up their breasts and genitalia, its not a huge leap to argue that a child can also consent to having sex with an adult.

When a girl agrees to have a male surgeon cut off her breasts, she technically consents to a man touching her breasts. Sure, it is a medical procedure and all, but that does not change the plain facts.

It is not a huge leap at all. In fact, any pedo could argue "A man just touching her breasts will have much less impact on her life than having her breasts amputated, so why allow the latter but not the former?"

suddenly recalling a childhood memory and with your adult mind, realizing you were wronged?

Happens to me a lot.

we've invented a monstrous punishment for children who don't comply.

I've been thinking this for a while. Forcing a girl into a dress or taking a boy's Barbies away is a million times less ghoulish than lying to them and sterilizing them. Instead of just letting them play with/wear what they want (within reason), parents and "experts" are irreparably hurting them.

[–] hmimperialtortie AGP = evil 3 points

This is it. It’s all about making children sexually available - and making adults who will never have adult bodies or cognitive abilities, but will be legally of age.

I had this discussion on Facebook. The question was, what would you do if your child came out as trans? I responded that I would act the same way as if they decided they were a different species or race or whatever, it would depend on why I thought they were saying that. I might play along a bit if they were prancing around the room and stating they were a horse. (If they thought they were the opposite gender I would ask why and show them that everything they stated a X could do a Y could do and vice versa and depending on the age, add, save for babies, it takes a mommy and daddy to have a baby).

Anyway, people argued this with me. Could you pretend for awhile (no, not if they actually believed etc.) They just didn't get the danger.

What parent in their right mind would allow their child to sleep outside in a field because the child thought they were a horse? Or eat hay?

It scares me that they are parents.

If a child comes to a parent and says they’re transgender I think it’s up to the parent to get to the root of why, address the why and validate the feeling, but not the trans conclusion, if that makes sense.

I mean addressing a source issue like body shame would look different than addressing friend influence/social contagion. The latter I’m not gonna lie I think is a big problem. Kids just get in these groups where it’s “cool” to be weird/have a “problem”, so they all pretend they have adhd, gluten free, or are trans to get social clout and be “a speshul person”.

And you can’t even drag the kid to therapy, because a lot of mental health professionals have lost their damn minds and will end up validating the kids delusion. So what can you do as a parent other than maybe trying to get them off the internet and and organizing activities for them to do in real life - which will both boost confidence in themselves and get them away from poor social influences long enough to maybe break the social contagion?

Absolutely. Because there is no logical reason for a child to feel sad in their body. What misconceptions do you (my child) have about being a boy or a girl? Why do you feel that way?

And it is scary that finding a good doctor is difficult. Especially as some doctors will state one thing to the parent and another to the child.

So my 5-year-old nephew really is Spiderman?!

If he says so, it must be true. Children know who they are, and also, males NEVER lie about their identity for any reason whatsoever. We have been told that repeatedly.

It must be so exciting to be Spiderman's aunt!

It is very exciting! Now I know that it’s okay to let him jump down a flight of stairs after all!

Yep! And if you don't let him fling himself from the roof with his toy web shooter, you're a bigot!

The trans stuff is a major glaring example of this, but this weird overly permissive parenting style where you defer to the kids on everything strikes me as ultimately harmful. We are breeding a generation of wimpy narcissists who cannot handle adversity and think the world revolves around them. Previous generations could be harsh and dismissive of feelings, but we’ve gone too far in the other direction. This attitude has oepened the flood gates for child transition.

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