What a beautiful piece of propaganda this is.
Shupe is the man who was the first person in the US to get a non-binary certificate but then became a detransitioner and wrote an article in 2019 in which he admits it was all a sham. We're talking about a veteran with multiple types of mental illness who is an open autogynephile.
According to this 2023 march 15 article, Shupe became uncomfortable with right-wing anti-trans activists influencing him and gender critical women treating him as the pervert he is.
It is also the typical hardcore DARVO and projecting we are used to from TRAs. At the end of the article it is said Shupe enjoyed being detrans because he received so much attention and adoration at the beginning. Now that's hilarious because the 2019 article starts with him saying how becoming non-binary got him insane amount of fame in such a short time, secondly, detransitioners receive an endless inflow of hate and victim blaming from all sides.
There is a long history of extremist movements recruiting damaged and isolated individuals to do their dirty work.
Complete projection here from a crusader of the trans body mutilation cult.
Yet Shupe’s crusade wrecked her life, and in the end, the movement that elevated her also chewed her up and spat her out without hesitation. There was no big fuck-you-I’m-out moment for Shupe, no definitive point when she knew it was over; the tide just turned on her. A fellow TERF named Karen Davis started publicly attacking Shupe for her supposed autogynephilia. Shupe says she received death threats.
“I was gradually waking up to the fact that, you know, I was just a useful idiot, are the two words I would use,” Shupe tells me. “I got the vibe that they wanted me to help them, they wanted me to use them, but they wouldn’t trust somebody like me around their kids.”
Well no shit we don't trust men like him. In his 2019 article he admits he spent years watching porn and when he couldn't sculpt his wife into the "perfect woman" he decided to become that himself.
She does not expect things to get easier now that she’s leaked the emails: “I burned bridges on both sides of the aisle. So, at this point, I’m just all alone in my life,” she says. The person she’s paying attention to now is an eighteen-year-old named Chloe Cole. Cole, who recently filmed an interview with Jordan Peterson, and has been thanked by name in Ron DeSantis’s Florida State of the State address, is another “detransitioner,” and as Shupe has exited the scene, Cole’s star has been steadily on the rise. Shupe worries that Cole is being manipulated. She thinks Cole’s mental health might be worse than she lets on.
“She’s like I was. She’s a younger clone of me,” Elisa Rae Shupe says. “My worry is, what’s going to happen to her when all the attention is withdrawn?”
I too am worried about Cloe being a "detrans activist" at such a young age. But maybe, just maybe, she wouldn't have to talk about the physical harm being done to kids like her (she had testosterone at 12, breasts removed at 15) if sick cultists like you didn't advocate for child mutilation??? Not a middle aged AGP comparing himself to a 18yo woman who was a victim of medical abuse as a child...
During my phone call with Shupe last week, I quote that line back to her. She, too, was seeking HRT at the time; she knew that gender-affirming healthcare was life-saving, because she had become suicidal when she lost access to it. It is the question I still can’t wrap my head around: how could Shupe try to ban something for others if she knew that losing it would kill her?
There is a long silence on the other end of the phone line.
“I don’t have an excuse for that,” Shupe says, eventually. “There is no excuse for that.”
There is no excuse, but maybe there are reasons. People with BPD are prone to “splitting,” seeing things as either pure good or pure evil; Shupe thinks that her disappointing early transition, combined with her BPD, caused her to believe that if transition wasn’t an absolute good for her, then it was an absolute evil for everyone. She’s working on that, she says; owning her own experiences, not projecting.
So not receiving anymore abnormal amounts of estrogen made him suicidal. Yeah, guess what, messing around with your hormone levels will do that! Doesn't mean you should start again. I can't believe how these people can't see how insane and dangerous their attitude is towards medicine. It really is tragic how this severely mentally ill man still doesn't seem to receive proper mental healthcare. It is quite clear being openly known for his autogynephilia was too much for him so he scurries right back to the people who will celebrate him for his fetish. I do feel a tiny bit of sympathy as he's clearly not well, but doing this after witnessing the sickening abuse of trans medicine, especially on children, I feel that's not excuse enough for his behaviour.
Edit: Mother Jones published the first hit piece about him on March 8 but I saw someone post on twitter that he's been switching back and forth multiple times already so it's not really something new? I didn't follow his story before but a GC man on twitter posted about it recently and probably others too.
Edit2: https://archive.md/0qwAS His diary about being an AGP if you're interested...
Edit3: https://archive.md/qtBMt His pinned post on twitter is him holding a sign "transgenderism mutilates children" and a woman actually compliments him saying he's lovely and all women want to cuddle him. In response he says she shouldn't put him on a pedestal because he still has a paraphilia which caused his wife great grief.
I wonder how many of those leaked emails are from people sharing their deepest secrets and darkest moments. Detransitioners, trans widows, on and on and on. And he’s betrayed their trust. Pervs truly have no shame.
It sounds like you're a disaster of a human being no matter how you identify. Perhaps you should seek help for those BPD meltdowns instead of changing your gender every year and constantly burning bridges and alienating people?
It doesn't matter how many titty pills you take. You have nothing in common with an 18 year old girl
To be fair, this is a legitimate concern. I hope Cole has a strong support system in her life so the stress of being a public figure doesn't break her. I hope she's smart enough not to allow politicians and media figures with bad intentions to use her.
That said, even at her young age, its clear she's way more mentally together than the crazy asshole in this article.
"WAH! The mean Black lady didn't immediately worship me just because I agreed with her on one thing!!!"
For real, Davis can be....very blunt. But we now know she wasn't wrong to be distrustful of this guy.
Bro....I can feel empathy for a person without 100% embracing everything they do and allowing them to babysit my child. The fact that he's so fixated on being around kids makes me think someone needs to check his hard drive.
I guess this is a lesson for us to be wary before fully embracing people who decide to be detransition activists (ESPECIALLY if they're males with a long history of severe mental illness). If we TERFs don't kiss their asses the way the trans community did, they will get butthurt and go scorched earth on us
No coddling for males, period. Let the men coddle them.
When he first detransitioned, I felt like there was something off about it. I have similar inklings about Kristin Beck, the Navy Seal who transitioned then detransitioned.
I'm more likely to take detransition seriously in the case of childhood transition or if the detrans person is gay or lesbian. Even then it's not guaranteed that they don't have serious issues that will lead them to ultimately throw GCs under the bus, but I am certain that AGP and extremely unwell detrans have a great likelihood of behaving this way. They have disordered thinking (even if their issue is "merely" fetishism), and they hate themselves and project that hatred onto others.
Here's an idea. Cancel your internet and start living a normal life. That way, you might regain the proper perspective on what a million strangers you'll never meet have to say about you.
It's a shame that interview with Benjamin Boyce was taken down, because it really cleared up any notions of AGPs being safe and harmless. It's not just that Shupe is scary as fuck (he is) but that he's typical.
He was a very clear example about why no AGP should be in women's spaces. I understand why Boyce took it down because Shupe is very litigious. But it was the most detailed, graphic, and disturbing interview I've ever seen short of Ted Bundy interviews.
Other AGPs are very cagey with Boyce and elsewhere. They basically humble brag about how they know they're not women, and they haven't gotten completely nuts. Shupe's interview was about the sexual depravity and crazed behavior. It should have been mandatory viewing for any student in gender studies, psychology, and criminology.
Here's a link to the Boyce interview entitled First Non-binary Individual Detransitions from 2019 on the Wayback Machine.
And this one is The Burden of Autogynophilia from 2019.
Oooooo. Yeah, I recommend everyone here watch both, but definitely not with kids around. And be aware, Shupe is very scary. Even Boyce looks white as a sheet while he's talking.
i didnt see that, what was so disturbing about the interview?
Oh, god. Well, Shupe did not hold back. He basically said what other AGPs won't admit to, to his credit. He spoke about how the estrogen made him unable to regulate his emotions, which made him destructive and violent. Including standing in his yard screaming, threatening his neighbors with his gun.
He had a lactation fetish and begged his doctors to give him domperidone so he could lactate. As he didn't have a baby (and apparently only that reason) he was denied. He is pseudo-bisexual and would go out at night to have sex behind buildings and dumpsters with random strange men. He was obsessed with porn and watched it nearly non-stop. He compared himself to any average sex offender- he was addicted to depravity.
That's just the stuff I remember. He's very obsessive. When he got into that spat with Karen Davis he took it out on Benjamin Boyce and threatened to sue him if he didn't take down the interview. Boyce said he didn't really have the resources to fight in court even if he won, and took it down.
I wish I had the foresight to download it somewhere because it was very scary and informative.
Oh, well. Sounds like a serial killer in the making tbh.
And that's why I don't trust nor care about male detransitioners
Where exactly was the "damning" information from those emails? I didn't see anything in the whole damn article that looked sketchy. Just this idiot making conjectures.
Also, this guy is 100% going to turn around and stab his new friends in the back. Will probably detrans again.
Shupe is a very disturbed individual who wrote insulting comments under some interviews I gave on YouTube channels, as I described writing my memoir and going through recovery from the PTSD that my very disturbed ex-husband caused me during/after his "transition." These men are extreme narcissists who have no concept of actual female sisterhood. You will notice, no mention of his wife and daughter.
Right, because Sady Doyle is the perfect unbiased person to be reporting on this. She’s not using him for her agenda at all. 🙄
Right? It's a circle jerk of jerks.
How ‘female-social-media’ of him to self diagnose with BPD. Personally I think he could’ve gone the whole hog and started calling himself a system!
I'm sure his "system with tourettes" arc is coming next
Unstable much? How can anyone support guys like this and not see how obviously ill they are? Guys like him would rather spend all their cash on "transitioning" than any therapy they clearly need.
“I was gradually waking up to the fact that, you know, I was just a useful idiot, are the two words I would use,” Shupe tells me
I'd just use "idiot", but there's plenty of other words I'd like to use, too.