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https://mobile.twitter.com/CuredByTheBLood/status/1401914279713034249

A woman and her parents were stalked and harassed by a TIF she briefly dated. This TIF has broken into her house and stolen her house keys, contacted her ex-husband's family and her parents with scary phone calls, and threatened to kill her in front of her child. "Seti Yasin" has numerous restraining orders against her from other women. She thought her girlfriend was cheating on her, and demanded the girlfriend hand over her phone. When girlfriend dumped her insteaded, this misogynist went nuts.

The comments in the first tweet are full of support for the TIF, and people asking "well what was on the phone?" Thankfully she's getting support, too. But it really highlights how women are presumed to be guilty, especially black women. Until she can prove she doesn't deserve it, a lot of people assume she somehow must.

Seti Yasin's behavior and all male behavior like it should be viewed as lunatic until proven otherwise. (Good luck with that).

The victim lost her job and her house during this craziness, and Seti/Rameses/Destiny Wilkerson/Yasin has only just gone to jail now. (I have no idea if it's a men's prison, but I doubt it).

https://heavy.com/entertainment/love-and-hip-hop/cyn-santana-aziza-murphy/

It takes some digging in the comments to know this abuser is a TIF, although I found her TikTok video where she smugly describes rape by deception on a rad fem account.

Even the victim doesn't dare violate her pronouns or question is T had something to do with her bizarre actions, though.

I know that it certainly isn't all or even most TIFs, but I wonder how much Seti Yasin's brain and impulse control has been fried by T. T is known to increase aggression in women who use it. It ranges from irritability to rage.

What pisses me off is that this TIF will not be forced off of T. Considering she is violent, the first order of business would be to stop prescribing her testosterone and whatever cocktail of hormones and blockers she's on. Because MUH IDENTITY!, it cannot be done.

THIS WOMAN IS WANTED IN MULTIPLE STATES. She's fucking dangerous. I have no idea if she would be this violent without hormones, but even if she was, that only means she is especially a bad candidate for hrt.

If she is not violent by nature, then pharmaceutical companies, therapists, and yes, activists have all contributed to the destruction of her life, as well as her victims. She has been sentenced to jail. I don't know where or for how long, but in the US at least, if you go to jail, kiss getting a well-paying job good bye. You will most likely never know financial stability again. She has probably destroyed every loving relationship she ever had, too.

Nobody should be getting these cross sex hormones. Ever. But the only excuse a doctor can have to refuse them is if the patient is that medically fragile and will likely have a heart attack in soon after. Fuck everybody else's safety and sanity.

ETA Removed a questionable source

https://mobile.twitter.com/CuredByTheBLood/status/1401914279713034249 A woman and her parents were stalked and harassed by a TIF she briefly dated. This TIF has broken into her house and stolen her house keys, contacted her ex-husband's family and her parents with scary phone calls, and threatened to kill her in front of her child. "Seti Yasin" has numerous restraining orders against her from other women. She thought her girlfriend was cheating on her, and demanded the girlfriend hand over her phone. When girlfriend dumped her insteaded, this misogynist went nuts. The comments in the first tweet are full of support for the TIF, and people asking "well what was on the phone?" Thankfully she's getting support, too. But it really highlights how women are presumed to be guilty, especially black women. Until she can prove she doesn't deserve it, a lot of people assume she somehow must. Seti Yasin's behavior and all male behavior like it should be viewed as lunatic until proven otherwise. (Good luck with that). The victim lost her job and her house during this craziness, and Seti/Rameses/Destiny Wilkerson/Yasin has only just gone to jail now. (I have no idea if it's a men's prison, but I doubt it). https://heavy.com/entertainment/love-and-hip-hop/cyn-santana-aziza-murphy/ It takes some digging in the comments to know this abuser is a TIF, although I found her TikTok video where she smugly describes rape by deception on a rad fem account. Even the victim doesn't dare violate her pronouns or question is T had something to do with her bizarre actions, though. I know that it certainly isn't all or even most TIFs, but I wonder how much Seti Yasin's brain and impulse control has been fried by T. T is known to increase aggression in women who use it. It ranges from irritability to rage. What pisses me off is that this TIF will not be forced off of T. Considering she is violent, the first order of business would be to stop prescribing her testosterone and whatever cocktail of hormones and blockers she's on. Because MUH IDENTITY!, it cannot be done. THIS WOMAN IS WANTED IN MULTIPLE STATES. She's fucking dangerous. I have no idea if she would be this violent without hormones, but even if she was, that only means she is *especially* a bad candidate for hrt. If she is not violent by nature, then pharmaceutical companies, therapists, and yes, activists have all contributed to the destruction of her life, as well as her victims. She has been sentenced to jail. I don't know where or for how long, but in the US at least, if you go to jail, kiss getting a well-paying job good bye. You will most likely never know financial stability again. She has probably destroyed every loving relationship she ever had, too. Nobody should be getting these cross sex hormones. Ever. But the only excuse a doctor can have to refuse them is if the patient is that medically fragile and will likely have a heart attack in soon after. Fuck everybody else's safety and sanity. ETA Removed a questionable source

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She wouldn’t be the first violent TIF. At least one TIF murdered her ex-girlfriend’s son. And there was a gay-bashing incident where a TIF beat up a lesbian ostensibly for being GC. Testosterone drives men crazy, ‘roid rage isn’t fictional. Goodness knows what it does to women.

She wouldn’t be the first violent TIF. At least one TIF murdered her ex-girlfriend’s son.

And after the TIF who murdered her ex's son was shot dead by Florida police whilst holding a gun to her own mother's head, she was counted by the HRC & other campaign groups as one of the 44 trans "murder victims" to die in the US in 2020 whose deaths are used as "proof" that there's an "epidemic" of "transphobic killings" in the US.

Typical the HRC would disregard the dead child and the traumatized victims she left behind. But those victims don't matter because they had cis privilege

But gender identity is SO important that we increase the odds of them committing a violent crime.

Roid Rage fucks up men's brains even though their bodies are designed to handle testosterone. I can't imagine how it must fuck up a woman's brain. Most TIFs break up with their partners upon transitioning; and the increased aggression is likely a factor in that

While men are overwhelmingly more violent than women, women can be pretty damn bad too. I have the trauma from physical schoolyard bullying to prove it.

A few people of any demographic are bound to be violent.

I'm not disagreeing with this. But should a woman who is violent be put on synthetic testosterone?

Absolutely not, for sure! Men need it in large amounts for reproductive purposes, and even that carries the consequences. In a female, it increases rage likewise but also destroys her heart health and fertility as well as her health in general. Besides, this woman clearly has a LOT of internalized misogyny, and remedying that with therapy is needed, not giving her an anger- and strength-enhancing drug. shivers

The Dhejne study showed that TIFs have rates of violence equivalent to men and TIMs.

In addition to testosterone turning women into rage monsters, I wouldn't rule out untreated mental illness being a factor. Once upon a time, doctors would refuse hormones to TIMs and TIFs who had profound mental health issues (this is one reason Buffalo Bill wouldn't have been considered trans in the '80s) because they were concerned that HRT would only amplify their existing issues. Now that the medical establishment has abandoned any pretense of ethics regarding trans-identified patients, they're happy to load up mentally ill men and women with mood-destabilizing cross-sex hormones.

they were concerned that HRT would only amplify their existing issues

and it does! And we have hundreds of documented cases of violent crimes. And nobody cares. I want off this planet.

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I want them, TIFs and TIMs alike, off this planet. They can go and live on Mars with Elon Musk.

Sometimes i imagine a fantastic parallel time line where these moronic dutch doctors weren't like "hey! You know what, instead of continuing to try and treat mental illness at its root, why don't we just say fuck it for this one mental illness and instead of treatment, just affirm their crazy delusions! And then when we see it can sometimes work but only for older men, let's expand it to little girls of 12 and lob off their tits! I'm a genius!!"

But joking aside, what a world where trans never happened and women can focus on the million other problems we face instead of using our money, time and nerves to fight for rights we already had

Isn't exogenous testosterone a controlled substance? There's a reason why it shouldn't be taken at the discretion of whoever wants it.

A week or so ago when I was scrolling Ovarit on my phone (and thus couldn't reply) someone in a thread related how she felt when doing a heavy weightlifting workout which was exactly how I felt. You do get a little boost in endogenous T and it does make you a little hornier, aggressive, oilier, and zitty-er ha ha. It feels great and it feels crazy. I remember many times getting in the face of bro-dudes after a heavy set when they rubbed me the wrong way at the gym. Now that I work out at home, my husband even gets scared of me, lol.

So I am unsurprised that in a woman's body, exogenous testosterone produces extreme behavior. Hell, I had a little tiff with a TIF in the gym a few years ago when she clearly thought I should get out of the power cage so she could lift her sad-ass 95lbs. Aww, how cute, she's practicing being a douchebag. So I out-lifted her, while pregnant. (Yes, I've told this story before ha ha ha, years later I'm still mad.)

(To all of you lifting only 95 lbs, good job at keep at it. It's only sad-ass if you're in my face lol)

The heaviest thing I can lift is my 40 pound child, so I'm amazed that you out-lifted her while pregnant. And how hilarious that you showed her what a woman is capable of while she was practicing her dudebro act. These TIFs are kidding themselves. Testosterone may have a lot of effects on them, some very negative, but it will never make them men.

Men's brute strength is certainly impressive, but women's bodies are AMAZING. I'm not one to rub my fecundity in anyone's face, but I really felt that that particular woman needed to see that and have a think about her views on being a woman.

Anyway, 40lbs moving weight - more challenging than a barbell no matter how heavy! :D

Off topic but you sound kind of amazing and I want to learn to lift. Any suggestions on how to not get hurt?

Start just by focusing on form. Back in the early tens I found https://stumptuous.com was a really great resource, but her site has changed drastically and I can't find the specific resources I used back then.

The typical bar is about 45 lbs, which I couldn't lift with good form at the time, so I started earning the major lifts with preloaded barbells at the gym and kettlebells. After getting some skill with the major lifts I started the 5x5 https://stronglifts.com program. I no longer do this, but it was a great start.

https://www.bodybuilding.com I also would consult this database to get a good idea of form. Would also video tape myself and have other people help me out.

this is an AMAZING story. tho I cannot relate to the hornier or more aggressive after leg day. I am too exhausted, sweaty, and sore to want anything but a cool shower and a mountain of food 😹

Isn't exogenous testosterone a controlled substance? There's a reason why it shouldn't be taken at the discretion of whoever wants it.

It is a controlled substance. And its so goddam unethical that mentally ill 15-year-old girls can get it on demand, but they can't purchase Sudafed.

I can't even with this shit. And I have teen students that appear to be on it. It's absolutely unethical. We're going to look back on this like lobotomies.

You called her behavior "male," but it's a woman, right? Maybe I am misreading?

Yes she's a female who identifies as a guy, but I believe OP was describing the violent deranged behavior that is more prevalent among males as the 'male typical behavior', with the hypothesis that this type of behavior may increase in females with testosterone use.

I used "and" but she certainly is mimicking the very worst features of violent male behavior. Maybe I shouldn't call it mimickry is she's actually doing it for real, though. Still, this behavior is mostly found in men.

And it comes from being pumped with extremely unnatural levels of male hormones that have no business being anywhere near let alone inside of a female body.

For the dangerous TIFs you'll probably find physical, emotional and sexual trauma in their childhoods and early teenage years.

Since they don't have to go through therapy anymore. And everything is Trans affirmative. They are going to get the T.

There will be a tiny % of TIFs who are going to experience Roid Rage.

Eventually they will be put in prison.

But surely this isn't soley in the Black Community.

No, but I do think it matters that black women have an even harder time getting taken seriously by the police. This woman had screenshots, voice recordings and even video footage of what she was being put through, and the police did very little. She also got dismissed by many men in her feed, reckoning she somehow had it coming.

White women get dismissed too, but not at the same rates. Intersectionality has been poisoned by TRA hi-jacking it, but it's a real thing.

I'm aware that Black women aren't taken seriously by the police, especially if they are missing.

But that's not about the Black Community. This is kind of Misogynoir and anti Black Racism is embedded in predominantly White Police Departments.

The Black men who commented, are products of going to Churches where Ministers preach Homophobic sermons 3 - 4 times a year. They just saw this as a couple of Dykes and the relationship went wrong. But I'm sure the after thought was "these unnatural bi*ches."

She was wanted in 35 States. Obviously there was something wrong with this particular TIF.

Well, police ignore black women more often than they do white women, it kinda IS about the black community because since black women are enormously impacted by that. Much like all other forms of anti-black racism. I'm not sure what your point is, here. White women DO get ignored, often to the point of murder. But they have more luck getting traction when they report to police.

That said, this TIF was wanted in 35 states, which means 35 different judges signed a warrant for her arrest, at the prompting of at least 35 police officers who had to request the warrants. So that means at least 70 members of law enforcement were willing to help.

If you haven't noticed, Woke people like to apply unique pressure to everyone else: Don't call the police on trans people, especially trans women, especially trans people of color. Furthermore, the cop/prison abolition movement like to pressure women not to call the cops for their abusers and rapists. There have been webinars on this very topic. By default, this will impact women of color more heavily.

Not all of the black men who commented were aware that Seti Yasin was a TIF. If they did, their homophobic position would NOT be "so what was on on the phone?" They thought the victim was cheating on a straight man. That was why they empathized with Seti. And yes, if all the people invloved in this issue were white, I expect I would have seen a lot of himpathy from white guys, too.

Yeah, it never occurred to me, but most likely when you (and your therapist, god help us) decide that aaaaaalllllllllll your problems come from being "born in wrong body," it's almost blanket permission not to work on any other issue, isn't it? Suddenly everything becomes about the hateful TERFs and the 'transphobes' and you are completely off the hook for your childhood issues, impulse control, anger management, projection ... plus a big whack of a hormone.

What could possibly go wrong?

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🙄 I'm going to be pedantic here, please do not use 'hrt' when you mean 'csh'. You stated it on point at the end and I'm not trying to police however, IMHO: the obfuscation of hormonal treatments and language in general is fucking us over. Women not knowing their bodies their hormones is dangerous... I have encountered so many women that don't know that we naturally produce very low levels of testosterone and lose ground and clout when well-intentioned by appearing uninformed.

You appear informed and full of passion - my comment is to implore not criticize. Thank you for the rage inducing info.

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I've issued the same correction on this site before, because HRT is for replacing hormones that your body is supposed to produce but isn't. Post-menopausal women commonly need HRT. But when taking hormones in levels your body would never have or produce naturally because that can only be found in the opposite sex (or maybe in the case of weird medical conditions), well, then it's CSH like you said. The fact that they call it HRT is yet another way they appropriate medical language that has nothing to do with them whatsoever. This was first pointed out to me on mumsnet.

Funny enough, my mom alerted me to the difference years ago - she is a medical professional. The conversation was unrelated to TIM/TIF - it was regarding a patient with XXY (Kleinfelters) and the conundrum was that giving the patient Testosterone HRT was boosting Estrogen production so the Dr. (not my mom, she isn't an MD) trying to come up with a balanced cocktail of HRT and CSH to balance the body. We talked about it a lot as she was very concerned that experimenting on such a conflicted body was potentially very dangerous.

No one was confused that this XXY individual was male, they were trying to find solutions to get his body to accept the treatments and aid his male function/appearance.

I worked for a man with the aforementioned about 5yrs ago - he fathered two children and had all the misogynistic bells and whistles... had a terrible habit of asking "can we see your tits" every time we had a meeting with other company executives. No one doubted his maleness.

It makes me so fucking mad that TRAs use people with DSDs as a gotcha - not remotely related to TI.

Thanks for posting this, really interesting comment, a good demonstration of much males have changed the way we talk about stuff in such a short amount of time.

Hold on, the person in the photo from the first link you shared is a completely different person from the TikTok in the second.

I was wondering if that was so, but I was told it was the same person. I'll remove it just in case.

Testosterone is a controlled substance (not enough of one, imo) for a reason. Men are the irrational, violent, impulsive sex because of their hormones, women have no business poisoning themselves (or be poisoned) with this stuff. It's so bad for health, both physical and mental, and it's bad for public safety (no matter whose body it's in).

This is obviously terrible but am I the only one confused as to why everyone is blaming testosterone for violent behaviour? Violence in TIFs if hardly common it is feels like baseless speculation to say HRT makes women violent. It also removes responsibility from violent men by suggesting that they have no choice but to be violent because its "in their nature" or because all men are somehow born violent. Violence is always a choice regardless of hormones.

I left room for the possibility that she was already violent, but synthetic T can cause rage and hallucinations. It CAN make a woman violent. It's not baseless speculation at all. It's hard to ignore the data.

Men may be more prone to violence because of their natural testosterone. However, their bodies are built to handle it in ways our bodies are not. It actually works as an emotional regulator in men for one thing. I'm guessing this is why male criminality does not go down in TIMs- they may have less T aggression, but also less T regulation. And this is natural T, not synthetic.

Tbh, I'm not ruling out the possibility that violence is in men's nature, which is why I want female-only spaces.

There are a number of controlled or illegal substances that can make people violent.

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