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https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1402922169559044096

https://sex-matters.org/?p=12595

https://hiyamaya.net/?page_id=3905

(links to sex matters and Maya's site seem to be working now)

ETA Maya's statement on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOIKlg71LJc

ETA 2 the full ruling

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/60c1cce1d3bf7f4bd9814e39/Maya_Forstater_v_CGD_Europe_and_others_UKEAT0105_20_JOJ.pdf

https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1402922169559044096 https://sex-matters.org/?p=12595 https://hiyamaya.net/?page_id=3905 (links to sex matters and Maya's site seem to be working now) ETA Maya's statement on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOIKlg71LJc ETA 2 the full ruling https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/60c1cce1d3bf7f4bd9814e39/Maya_Forstater_v_CGD_Europe_and_others_UKEAT0105_20_JOJ.pdf

36 comments

[–] nobitary 11 points (+11|-0) Edited

Really glad about this, and on the other hand, this sentence from the judgment worries me: "This judgment does not mean that those with gender-critical beliefs can ‘misgender’ trans persons with impunity.”

:/

[–] Willow9 7 points (+7|-0) Edited

Yeah, if misgendering is a crime it implies a punishment. In my interpretation as someone that has no law formal knowledge, this statement may continue to put our jobs at risk. There's a precedent with Maya now, but many women might not be able to go into a legal battle of such complexity due to a handful of tweets and other "evidence".

[–] MenHaveItEasy 1 points (+1|-0)

Being forced to use incorrect pronouns should be a protected belief.

[–] bobo 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

I think the judge also used the word “indiscriminately”.

My optimistic perspective (not a lawyer at all though) is that there may be some situations where misgendering is fine (speaking generally/about public figures or an accidental slip-up), but hounding a specific trans person and misgendering them repeatedly could still be considered harassment.

Frustrating in a way though because all the targeted harassment comes from only one side of this debate, and it’s not the feminists.

Ironically, it’s also incredibly hard to personally harass someone by misgendering them because due to the nature of pronouns, you are not even speaking to the person when you’re using them.