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https://archive.is/wip/7AVsG

I know archives don't show video, but you can copy and paste to look at the video.

This young woman has some pre-t passing ftm tips. First of all, don't get an undercut, because you'll look like a lesbian. Get a haircut like hers. (Which plenty of chic butch women have, but okay. If you're wondering what cut she has, think KD Lang circa 1993. I've heard something about KD Lang being a lesbian, but I'm not sure. Don't quote me on that).

She recommends getting shoes one or two sizes too big, because it will make you look taller. Ah, no, that's not how it works at all. Looking at longer length on the floor will not add height in the air. Most people don't notice foot size anyway.

Get baggy clothes, but not too baggy, because you'll just look like a little kid in over-sized clothes. Fair enough.

Get your pants hemmed, so you look taller. Again, that's not really how it works, since most people are looking at face level, not ankle level.

And finally......wait for it.....type differently. Type in a masculine way. Type "ha ha" instead of "hee hee" and things like that.

Do teen girls actually type "hee hee?" I've never seen that. I've seen TIMs do it. Otherwise, I don't really know what "typing in a masculine way" even means. She suggests using fewer emojis, too. You can use some in general, but not too many. What does that mean?

Oh wait- NOT finally.

She also suggests washing your hair with only water. What this is supposed to do I haven't the foggiest, but she says it helps her pass better as male. I know there's a debate on shampoo vs. no shampoo in the haircare world. But I really don't understand how it would make your hair look more male. Men use shampoo.

I am frustrated with this teen but also wanted to make her her favorite meal and have a talk. If she thinks undercuts are an out trend, and it's all about preppy boy classic cuts now, fine. Trust me, KD Lang has had the same haircut several times over. It's good to see it back.

Someone in the comments correctly pointed out that wearing shoes the wrong size is not good for you, and it's not something people notice anyway.

But otherwise, they all thought these were good tips. I really wish this girl could get advice from some older lesbians or even just fellow women that NONE of this will help her become male. She should just be her adorable, tomboy self.

To be frank, all of her ideas are ridiculous, and only a teenager would think all this would work. Or very unhealthy, delusional adults.

And for all that she is unfeminine, she IS vain. She clearly loves her hair, for one. That's kinda why I want young girls to have Butch Chic as an option for cool and stylish. She's got all the vanity of a teenager, but no acceptable outlet to express it on her terms.

https://archive.is/wip/7AVsG I know archives don't show video, but you can copy and paste to look at the video. This young woman has some pre-t passing ftm tips. First of all, don't get an undercut, because you'll look like a lesbian. Get a haircut like hers. (Which plenty of chic butch women have, but okay. If you're wondering what cut she has, think KD Lang circa 1993. I've heard something about KD Lang being a lesbian, but I'm not sure. Don't quote me on that). She recommends getting shoes one or two sizes too big, because it will make you look taller. Ah, no, that's not how it works at all. Looking at longer length on the floor will not add height in the air. Most people don't notice foot size anyway. Get baggy clothes, but not too baggy, because you'll just look like a little kid in over-sized clothes. Fair enough. Get your pants hemmed, so you look taller. Again, that's not really how it works, since most people are looking at face level, not ankle level. And finally......wait for it.....type differently. Type in a masculine way. Type "ha ha" instead of "hee hee" and things like that. Do teen girls actually type "hee hee?" I've never seen that. I've seen TIMs do it. Otherwise, I don't really know what "typing in a masculine way" even means. She suggests using fewer emojis, too. You can use some in general, but not too many. What does that mean? Oh wait- NOT finally. She also suggests washing your hair with only water. What this is supposed to do I haven't the foggiest, but she says it helps her pass better as male. I know there's a debate on shampoo vs. no shampoo in the haircare world. But I really don't understand how it would make your hair look more male. Men use shampoo. I am frustrated with this teen but also wanted to make her her favorite meal and have a talk. If she thinks undercuts are an out trend, and it's all about preppy boy classic cuts now, fine. Trust me, KD Lang has had the same haircut several times over. It's good to see it back. Someone in the comments correctly pointed out that wearing shoes the wrong size is not good for you, and it's not something people notice anyway. But otherwise, they all thought these were good tips. I really wish this girl could get advice from some older lesbians or even just fellow women that NONE of this will help her become male. She should just be her adorable, tomboy self. To be frank, all of her ideas are ridiculous, and only a teenager would think all this would work. Or very unhealthy, delusional adults. And for all that she is unfeminine, she IS vain. She clearly loves her hair, for one. That's kinda why I want young girls to have Butch Chic as an option for cool and stylish. She's got all the vanity of a teenager, but no acceptable outlet to express it on her terms.

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[–] suupersami 63 points (+63|-0)

The only people I've ever seen type "hee hee" are 30 year old + pedophiles who prey on teenage girls, harassing them over text and social media even though the girl is clearly not interested.

[–] calming-tea 12 points (+12|-0)

How tf do you pronounce it? It makes me think of a horse not a laugh

[–] NewMa 10 points (+10|-0)

Isn't that the Michael Jackson sound? What could be more masculine? /s

[–] TiredDev 8 points (+8|-0)

If someone I was talking to typed that into one of their messages, it would trigger my fight or flight response.

Eh, I type it sometimes to be ridiculous. But I’m a billion years old so I don’t count.

[–] terfjuice 5 points (+5|-0)

I'm only half a billion and I do it too just to be goofy 😀

[–] takshak 4 points (+4|-0)

yep, amongst friends.... usually as a kind of "victory chortle" when I've made a terrible joke

Yeah, I was just about to say I sometimes use it when taking the piss and the recipient knows that’s the case because we have the same sense of humour.

[–] Cats4Science 4 points (+4|-0)

I see “hee hee” and immediately assume it’s an anime/hentai-obsessed creepy uwu tucute dude.

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[–] darksunset 39 points (+39|-0)

I hate it when men type "hehe" Its always makes me think of a creeper. And usually its prefaces with something off color or sexual or self-indulgent. I always noticed that women don't type like that and men do and wondered why it put me off.

[–] SylviaWrath 22 points (+22|-0)

Ugh, same. Every single dude I've ever talked to who has done that "hehe" shit has turned out to be a huge walking red flag.

[–] mauvaisefoi 29 points (+29|-0)

Well, apparently some Facebook analysts looked into this and found that women were slightly less likely than men to use "hehe".

From her post history she just seems like a kid with mental health issues going through a rough patch. Plus the lesbian in denial thing. It makes me sad.

Ngl, most of her tips do make sense and aren't new in the ftm or even butch lesbian world. I can sort of understand the ideas: a) clothes that swallow you up make you look small, so no overly large shirts or the bottoms of your pants scrunched into your shoes, b) larger shoe size makes you look like you have larger feet - the height part is questionable - and helps with size dysphoria, and c) shampoo or hair product use can cause build-up that weighs down hair and makes it flat, so the front part becomes a fringe and thus more feminine. She's not expressing these in the most accurate way but it's clear that she's thought about it and is genuinely well-intentioned. Which makes it sadder because she'll still never be a real man.

[–] BristlingBo2 28 points (+28|-0) Edited

Shoes that are the wrong size are really uncomfortable regardless of whether they are too big or too small. They can fall off, rub blisters, make you trip etc etc. The one thing they can't do is make you look taller. They will just make you look like you have big feet, or that you're wearing your dad's shoes.

Edit: other than right now, I have never written "hee hee"

They’re also a great way to set yourself up for a fall, quite literally. Welcome to broken bones (especially if you’re on T and making your bones brittle).

[–] sealwomyn 23 points (+23|-0)

I used to see a lot of guides like that for trans identified women to help pass as male... Always with a "you don't wanna look like one of those gross lesbians" attitude.. despite the fact most of us with dysphoria back then were lesbians in some level or another of the closet. There was a lot of planning how to talk and type like a man, such as less explaining and be more terse etc.. I always found it easy to do that but my lack of femininity was much bemoaned from the get go, lol. If I'm perceived as male I'm unremarkable, if I'm female I'm "intimidating" and "bossy"... Nobody would ever call a male student bossy.

Jesus Christ if they need all those convoluted and stereotypical guides on how to "pass" as a male then is that.not just more evidence that these are women, not males trapped in women's bodies. So stupid. If they were really men it would just come naturally to them.

[–] sealwomyn 13 points (+13|-0)

Well yeah, you know and the positive aspects of that stuff is working on toxic female socialization like "you are allowed to take up space, don't apologize for existing, don't overexplain yourself, don't perform emotional labor like fake approval of unfunny jokes, disrespectful comments etc." but it's twisted because you're told it's good to fight this stuff "since you're not a woman" instead of "this isn't innate in any woman, it's taught and enforced and it demarcates you as second class and that's why you are uncomfortable with it"

[–] IrishTheFrenchie 16 points (+16|-0)

I've never, ever seen a woman type "Hee hee".

These people are OBSESSED with their gender stereotypes.

[–] Veneficca 15 points (+15|-0)

No one I know says or types "hee hee" but I DO see "tee hee!" a lot to indicate an empty-headed, shallow female stereotype. People use it when they want to convey that women are just ignorant spoiled princesses. I've never understand "hehe" - I mentally pronounce it as "heh heh" and not "hee hee" but maybe I've been wrong all this time.

It hurts my heart to think of these kids trying so hard to be something they're not. I think of me and my friends bleaching our hair and then coloring it with food coloring or Manic Panic and using egg whites and Elmer's Glue on our boyfriends' hair to sculpt their (usually dyed black) hair. And how we'd haunt thrift shops looking for the most offbeat or edgy clothes we could find. All designed to say we didn't give a fuck, when of course we gave ALL the fucks about how other people saw us. It was just so fun and innocent compared to today, even though we thought we were so dangerous and counterculture.

[–] Boudicaea 6 points (+6|-0)

Aw, that sounds really fun. I was too busy studying! Wish I'd done less of that, and more hanging out with friends. But I remember I always wanted a blue stripe in my hair as a teen. Now I wouldn't be caught dead with one, it would probably make people ask me my pronouns....

We would use the ink from bingo daubers to colour our hair when I was young and that shit would rub off EVERYWHERE.

Being a kid now must be the absolute worst. Who would have imagined a world where everything being so accessible and permissible would make life so hard?

[–] Stealthygal 4 points (+4|-0)

I mentally pronounce it as "heh heh" and not "hee hee" Same.

[–] jvsmine 11 points (+11|-0)

any time anyone types 'hehe' they are a TIM. every fucking time.

[–] bossythecow 10 points (+10|-0)

Can someone explain to me why, if trans women ARE women and trans men ARE men, they have to work so hard to perform the stereotypes of the sex they claim to be? Self-consciously scrutinizing every tiny thing they do, say and wear just screams inauthenticity to me.

[–] sconsolato 10 points (+10|-0) Edited

Is "dysphoric" just used interchangeably with "insecure" now?

This poor girls says she is "dysphoric about her height"?? I feel like what she means to say is that she's insecure about it, but has to make it sound more dramatic than it actually is.

[–] sealwomyn 11 points (+11|-0)

I think she means her height marks her as female and she thinks if she were taller she could pass for male easier. I think my being average height for males is part of why I get "sirred" pretty often and I'm not trying to pass for anything.

[–] UberBitchcraft 10 points (+10|-0)

She’s got Ellen DeGeneres/K.D. Lang/Rosie O'Donnell hair… She still has a “lesbian” haircut.

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