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I admit I fished a bit here. I was on FB where I somehow manage to have 4 trans friends, one that I know in real life. I explained in my status that I don’t know what’s it like to feel male or feel female because neither is a feeling I could recognize. I just exist in a body and that body is female. I feel I could equally exist in a male body too if that’s what I had.

A few minutes later I had a bite, then a few more. I was diagnosed as NB.

Guess I’m no longer a woman, friends. Please refer to me now as zi/zer.

I admit I fished a bit here. I was on FB where I somehow manage to have 4 trans friends, one that I know in real life. I explained in my status that I don’t know what’s it like to feel male or feel female because neither is a feeling I could recognize. I just exist in a body and that body is female. I feel I could equally exist in a male body too if that’s what I had. A few minutes later I had a bite, then a few more. I was diagnosed as NB. Guess I’m no longer a woman, friends. Please refer to me now as zi/zer.

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[–] FedUp12345 79 points (+79|-0)

I've been told this before too. I was trying to explain to someone that I don't have a "woman" identity, I don't feel female, I just am one. I don't have some innate gender identity. If anything I am more stereotypically male. I was told I must be agender or nb. No, just because I have traits society assigned as more male typical does not mean I'm not a woman. Jackasses.

[–] LasagnaRossa 37 points (+37|-0)

I still want to know what should I, a female human, feel inside. What's this womaness feeling? I only remember I'm female when my period returns.

[–] Researcher1536 22 points (+22|-0)

When I get period shits, I always think, these fucking TIMs would fetishize this. I was never a "I'm a woman rawr" period. But, after peaking, I know look at my period in a different way.

[–] SamuraiGhostCat 14 points (+14|-0)

I also look at periods a different way after peaking, but it’s more of a smugness and a pride, since it’s one thing (of many) that women have that TIMs will never have. They want periods but will never get to experience them. :) They seethe with envy, and do gross fetish-y stuff with tampons and pads, but nothing will ever make them menstruate.

[–] levitation 12 points (+12|-0)

I only "feel like a woman" when men are preying on me. They never let us fucking forget it and now TIMs want to appropriate our suffering like it's cute

I wish I only had to think of my period once a month 😭 I have endometriosis and PCOS and I bleed so much at frequencies that I can't predict. I had 3 periods in the last 6 weeks...it suuuuucks. I also had 2 yeast infections because my blood throws off my ph so bad that it makes me get infections. If my period would just go the fuck away I would be a very happy woman. Ugh. So anyways, too bad I'm reminded of that crap nearly every day

[–] Mintie 4 points (+4|-0)

I'm lucky the pill has kept my endometriosis at bay for the last 7-8 years, but I can't imagine having to go back to extremely painful, heavy fortnightly periods. Stay strong, and hopefully you'll find some kind of solution too soon ❤️❤️❤️

[–] Gini 6 points (+6|-0)

Let me know when you find out i'm dying to know to

[–] Thrillcheesier 4 points (+4|-0)

I think the womaness feeling is the sunshine, open field, and slightly blurred camera lens of 1970s/80s douche commercials.

[–] IrishTheFrenchie 54 points (+54|-0)

I have a female sexed body and a personality, not an invisible inner gender soul that insists I follow misogynistic stereotypes.

[–] cycle 42 points (+43|-1)

It's not harmless or funny. This happens all the time to teenagers. They are nudged, pressured even, to question themselves at every opportunity. They are vulnerable, stressed, insecure, tired and very susceptible to a cult that lovebombs them.

[–] eks3367 9 points (+9|-0)

You know, I say this all the time to myself, that if I grew up during this day and age, I definitely would have been persuaded to think I was trans or nb. I got my period at 9 and absolutely hated it because my friends didn’t get theirs until a few years later. I wanted to make myself disappear because I didn’t feel like myself. JK Rowling says the same thing.

Now that I am older and wiser, I know 100% that I am a woman and that the gender ideology kool aid is a bunch of crap. But the girls going through this now need older adults telling them this too.

[–] Lemonade_Masquerade 37 points (+37|-0) Edited

Start getting more and more terfy, and if they try to criticize you tell them they are invalidating your identity. Bonus points for any non-enby trans you can claim have binary privilege over you.

[–] legopants 28 points (+28|-0)

Damn, four trans friends to just one person? What a minority group. I know three personally.

I got told that before too, I'm a tomboy, so I'm like automatically classified as trans by TRAs lmaooo

[–] [Deleted] 6 points (+6|-0)

Also a tomboy. Once I've been told I was really a guy because most of my things were black.

[–] lesbifriends 3 points (+3|-0)

I know at least five TIMs and I can’t even count how many of my formerly lesbian friends have transed out. It’s hilarious when the straight wokebros I know tell me to “just listen to trans people” as if I don’t already know more than enough of them.

[–] [Deleted] 23 points (+24|-1) Edited

yep. had a conversation with a friend in college when she transitioned from being a GNC lesbian to being nonbinary. we had bonded over not feeling comfortable with enforced femininity (and had lots of good convos about makeup, shaving, etc). and we had also previously put together zines about beauty standards, WLW issues, and sexual assault on our campus and ran fundraisers for a local women’s shelter. I asked my friend how she knew she was NB and she said it was because of those things, because she didn’t feel good being traditionally feminine, and told me I was probably NB too if I felt the same way. of course, now all of her energy is spent scolding people for not being “inclusive” enough of her new identity, talking about how TIMs are the most oppressed women ever, and raising money for top surgery. guess I’m non-binary too if it just means not being a stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be according to men.

[–] hmimperialtortie 13 points (+16|-3)

I see the downvote stalkers are busy today.

Your friend was a GNC lesbian and then caved to the very stuff you two had talked about? That’s both sad and pathetic.

[–] SueGen 5 points (+5|-0)

I'm so sorry. I'm a woman and I can't imagine cutting off my breasts. It's just tragic.

[–] proximo 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

, because she didn’t feel good being traditionally feminine, and told me I was probably NB too if I felt the same way. I’ve had this exchange too many times to count. Nothing like a woman who thinks she can identify out of the awful reduction and culture that makes being a woman (and especially a lesbian today),willing to bring a friend along to step on the dignity of whoever isn’t willing to play this linguistic game.

[–] Ozomene 21 points (+21|-0)

I can’t imagine not feeling like that. Does anyone feel like a man or woman aside from bodily functions?

I’ve seen some say they are agenda instead. I think there’s a flag.

[–] cycle 26 points (+26|-0)

Does anyone feel like a man or woman aside from bodily functions?

No, not really. Even if there was a feeling, no one would know what the opposite sex feels like.

We have no inherent sense for gender identities because gender identities are a made up concept where stereotypical gender traits and roles become identities. An absurd psychological concept that asks everyone to look into themselves to find out their authentic self.

What's your favorite color? Got one? Ok, how do you know it's REALLY that one? You can't. You'll go mad. Your brain is a blackbox.

[–] Boudicaea 25 points (+25|-0)

Reminds me a lot of when I was a young Christian teen trying desperately to "hear God speak." Apparently some people can do that if they have enough faith, guess I just never had enough faith despite years of self flagellation. Although now I believe that I'm simply not schizophrenic and everyone around me was lying.

[–] cycle 12 points (+15|-3)

Yea, this is the stuff of nightmares. To be convinced that your inner voice is some god speaking to you.

[–] LasagnaRossa 12 points (+12|-0)

hear God speak

Ever had that sudden realization about something that was bothering you? Well, that's what christians mean for "God speak".

Just like gender woo they mistake their thoughts for some other entity (or identity)

[–] sconsolato 9 points (+9|-0) Edited

My parents sent me to a Christian based rehabilitation facility when I was a teenager. At least, that's what they thought it was. It was really an abusive religious camp for women and girls who are struggling with substance abuse issues. They had no medical staff, and we were forced to withdraw from heroin cold turkey with nothing but prayer to relieve the horrific pain. The program was run by a group of legitimately insane Pentecostals who subjected us to emotional, verbal, and physical abuse, starved us, brainwashed us, and forced us to convert to the religion. We were made to work for hours on end, and wake up every morning at 430 for an hour of mandatory prayer, followed by a 3 hour chapel service in the afternoon, and another hour of prayer in the evening. It was absolutely horrific, but thankfully they have been shut down.

But anyway, your comment reminded me of how they would claim that true christians are able to "speak in tongues", and if you couldn't, it meant that you weren't in tune with the holy spirit, and they believe that to be a sign of some kind of evil. Many of the girls would just pretend so they wouldn't be singled out or punished. I remember feeling the same way you felt, thinking that there must be something genuinely wring with me because I just couldn't do it. I wasn't sold on the whole religion thing at this time, but I wanted to be, since it seemed to work for lots of people. They definitely know how to take advantage of people with life controlling issues to advance their own agenda. I'm so glad to be out of that place, but I spent 13 months of my youth there.

[–] Hollyhock 3 points (+3|-0)

Yup. I'm also a former Christian teen. Most people lie or don't realize that Jesus inside you feeling is just your ego.

[–] hedy 13 points (+13|-0)

Even if there was a feeling, no one would know what the opposite sex feels like.

How this bullshit has not completely fallen apart already is beyond me.

[–] Ozomene 6 points (+6|-0)

It’s no wonder kids are confused when they are being told to explore which gender they feel on the inside.

[–] hmimperialtortie 15 points (+15|-0)

I wonder if they use “feel” as a synonym for “know”? I could easily say I feel female because I am and know I am. It’s nothing to do with stereotypes or woo, it’s merely the knowledge of this physical body.

Of course the thing I really know is that trying to make sense of their rubbish is a waste of time.

[–] hedy 10 points (+10|-0)

This reminds me of a Mormon practice called "bearing testimony" where they get up and say "I know this church is true because...". No, you don't fucking know, and you don't get to bastardize what "know" means.

That’s interesting, I haven’t heard of bearing testimony.

Just struck me that so many of them seem to be dead inside that even “feel” is probably pushing it! 😏

[–] mil-bil 11 points (+11|-0)

Commiserations.

So... how does it work? Others get to announce their identities and recite a whole thing about what that means and how to refer to them (and then post that on TikTok or wherever), but you are getting something imposed on you by others and that's okay?

[–] Zola 10 points (+10|-0)

happens to me, i got asked my pronouns in a vc

[–] Mirren 9 points (+9|-0)

LOL

Every feminist on the planet is NB, seeing as how we insist on the right to vote instead of confining ourselves to childcare and knitting or whatever the BS feminine stereotype is.

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