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Lots of people gets lots of surgeries out there, but "top surgery" abscess draining is oddly common, whereas others are not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/popping/comments/po2d1d/an_abscess_from_top_surgery_came_to_a_head/

The poster drained an abscess that came out brown- cellulitis. Think of a bacterial infection near so many vital organs at once. Don't worry, all is well, she contacted the surgeon and her dad is a doctor and she's on anti-biotics! Hugs all around.

The surgeon was Sidhbh Gallagher. The one who has a large instagram for her surgeries, lots of "teetus deletus uwu! Yeet the teets!" posts. At least one detransitioner was preyed on by her. (HormoneHangover, I believe).

Some people think the anti-biotics are not going to be enough:

Yeah with that kind of infection I would be blowing up their phones, not relying on email. I think you're underestimating how badly this could go. This isn't a normal infection because it's within the incision site of a deep surgery. You can't tell how deep the infection is by looking at it. The location it's at is also very dangerous. Things that could go wrong include:

Tissue separation resulting in a gaping hole where the infection bored through, which would require you to get an additional procedure to debride the healed scar tissue so they can be stitched together again. This will result in a thicker scar at that point.

The infection begins to necrotize the healing tissue, which could easily mean you lose the nipple and/or you will need skin grafts depending on how much tissue becomes necrotic.

The infection spreads to the major vessels and arteries(you know, the ones right behind it) and crosses the blood brain barrier, giving you meningitis. Even if you get the best possible medical care immediately started for meningitis, you've still got an 8-15% chance of death.*

An ER nurse steps in to agree

The popaholic in me is like awesome!

The nurse in me is just AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm really glad you're on antibiotics but if it hasn't started to improve within 48 hours or you develop a fever please go to urgent care/ER because you may need intravenous ones.** I'll be honest, if I saw you in ER (ED or A&E in the UK) you'd be on IV antibiotics already.** I understand the differences in US healthcare but that could become a serious problem fast so please don't delay if you start to feel unwell.

Even a trans man challenges Dr. Gallagher's claims that her drainless surgery technique works:

Do you have research to cite that drainless surgery is safer and has less recovery time? It might feel that way, but there is little empirical evidence. I caution folks to share this information, or say subjectively that any surgery "has a better look" (your results are great, but look like your typical DI surgery with or without drains) which puts a lot of unnecessary pressure on folks who haven't had surgery yet with little longitudinal data to share.

OP is not having it, and is fully on board with Dr. Gallagher's love bombing:

Yeah, look up dr sidhbh Gallagher, she’s published numerous studies and has written a book on it called “affirmed”

Writing a book does not make any of the contents true. As her TIF comrade very gentley but truthfully explains

She's published two studies that are publicly available, both using her own patients (N=153 and N=107, exceptionally small populations to make any claims on, notwithstanding her personal bias). The only statistically significant outcomes were less incidence of hematoma and a shorter hospital stay post surgery, both of which make sense, but nowhere do these "studies" find that the "masculoplasty" (a name she made up and trademarked for DI without drains?) is safer or has better aesthetic outcomes. We can love our surgeons - I'm a big fan and promoter of mine, too - but let's not spread false narratives in the community.

This wiser person gets downvoted.

Trans man who does medical research and has been in the field for a decade but hey, what do I know?

I hope OP recovers quickly and her infection clears up. But I believe her surgery was botched.This is not the first time I've heard of Sidhbh Gallagher being a dishonest quack.

Lots of people gets lots of surgeries out there, but "top surgery" abscess draining is oddly common, whereas others are not. https://www.reddit.com/r/popping/comments/po2d1d/an_abscess_from_top_surgery_came_to_a_head/ The poster drained an abscess that came out brown- cellulitis. Think of a bacterial infection near so many vital organs at once. Don't worry, all is well, she contacted the surgeon and her dad is a doctor and she's on anti-biotics! Hugs all around. The surgeon was Sidhbh Gallagher. The one who has a large instagram for her surgeries, lots of "teetus deletus uwu! Yeet the teets!" posts. At least one detransitioner was preyed on by her. (HormoneHangover, I believe). Some people think the anti-biotics are not going to be enough: >Yeah with that kind of infection I would be blowing up their phones, not relying on email. I think you're underestimating how badly this could go. This isn't a normal infection because it's within the incision site of a deep surgery. You can't tell how deep the infection is by looking at it. The location it's at is also very dangerous. Things that could go wrong include: >Tissue separation resulting in a gaping hole where the infection bored through, which would require you to get an additional procedure to debride the healed scar tissue so they can be stitched together again. This will result in a thicker scar at that point. > The infection begins to necrotize the healing tissue, which could easily mean you lose the nipple and/or you will need skin grafts depending on how much tissue becomes necrotic. > The infection spreads to the major vessels and arteries(you know, the ones right behind it) and crosses the blood brain barrier, giving you meningitis. Even if you get the best possible medical care immediately started for meningitis, you've still got an 8-15% chance of death.* An ER nurse steps in to agree > The popaholic in me is like awesome! >The nurse in me is just AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >I'm really glad you're on antibiotics but if it hasn't started to improve within 48 hours or you develop a fever please go to urgent care/ER because you may need intravenous ones.** I'll be honest, if I saw you in ER (ED or A&E in the UK) you'd be on IV antibiotics already.** I understand the differences in US healthcare but that could become a serious problem fast so please don't delay if you start to feel unwell. Even a trans man challenges Dr. Gallagher's claims that her drainless surgery technique works: > Do you have research to cite that drainless surgery is safer and has less recovery time? It might feel that way, but there is little empirical evidence. I caution folks to share this information, or say subjectively that any surgery "has a better look" (your results are great, but look like your typical DI surgery with or without drains) which puts a lot of unnecessary pressure on folks who haven't had surgery yet with little longitudinal data to share. OP is not having it, and is fully on board with Dr. Gallagher's love bombing: > Yeah, look up dr sidhbh Gallagher, she’s published numerous studies and has written a book on it called “affirmed” Writing a book does not make any of the contents true. As her TIF comrade very gentley but truthfully explains > She's published two studies that are publicly available, both using her own patients (N=153 and N=107, exceptionally small populations to make any claims on, notwithstanding her personal bias). The only statistically significant outcomes were less incidence of hematoma and a shorter hospital stay post surgery, both of which make sense, but nowhere do these "studies" find that the "masculoplasty" (a name she made up and trademarked for DI without drains?) is safer or has better aesthetic outcomes. We can love our surgeons - I'm a big fan and promoter of mine, too - but let's not spread false narratives in the community. This wiser person gets downvoted. > Trans man who does medical research and has been in the field for a decade but hey, what do I know? I hope OP recovers quickly and her infection clears up. But I believe her surgery was botched.This is not the first time I've heard of Sidhbh Gallagher being a dishonest quack.

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[–] destroyyourbinder 36 points (+36|-0)

The reverence transmen have for their mastectomy surgeons is truly scary. There are basically cults of personality around a few of them and their names are essentially Brand Names for certain kinds of chest appearances post-surgery. Almost impossible to bring up bad outcomes, even mundane and common problems like "dog ears" (extra tissue underneath the armpits where the join between skin folds up), without couching it in "I love him so much but there's just this eensy weensy issue that might be totally my fault" because it's basically considered sacrilege against the Big Names.

Not a coincidence that most of the players in the sick plastic surgery worship game were originally the names circulated on lists 10-15 years ago of surgeons who would do surgery without a doctor's letter or prior insurance approval, which used to be somewhat rare. The lists were circulated somewhat clandestinely on trans-specific sites and basically indicated people that you could throw 10k at and get your breasts amputated, regardless of medical viability or personal identity, no questions asked.

There are new docs now that are pioneering weird shit, like the drainless surgeries, no-nipple surgeries (there are now lists of doctors that will perform these no questions asked), "super flat" surgeries (i.e. zero fat or breast tissue left-- the goal is no longer to make a natural male-appearing chest but to assuage the patient's insecurities about "having something there"), surgeries in concert with extreme liposuction, etc. Really profoundly messed up world and I'm surprised medical and professional associations haven't gone after more of them just for their social media alone.

[–] TheCakeIsALie 13 points (+13|-0)

The reverence transmen have for their mastectomy surgeons is truly scary.

They have to, right? To admit the surgery wasn't a compete success or that the "best in the field" is performing a shit job is a slippery slope. This is the surgery that will cure their dysphoria and make them happy. There can never be doubts that it was a mistake.

[–] PGTips4Lyfe 0 points (+1|-1)

I wonder if it relates to some subconscious genetic-coded reverence we have from prehistory for "shamans" that guide people through coming-of-age ceremonies.

This seems oddly similar for some reason.

If it wasn't top surgery, they'd be tattooing themselves after spending 100 days in the forest or something.

[–] Fortissima 20 points (+20|-0)

That sounds awful and scary. I hope the TIF who is being reasonable finally gets some upvotes.

[–] Mikkal 19 points (+19|-0)

I'm shocked at all the "congrats" comments too - I've forgotten how insane the love bombing from the cult is.

[–] lucrecia 17 points (+17|-0)

My first thought was "this poor kid is going to die". I hope I'm wrong, but both the infection itself and the casual way these people are treating it make me think this can't end well. Please, lurkers, go read about sepsis and septic shock.

[–] spacykate 17 points (+17|-0)

If it was pus from a epidermal cyst that would be one thing, but this is from a pocket created by the surgeon that is underneath the skin and adjacent to the thoracic cavity. Having an infection in there is not at all ok, I dunno WTF the surgeon is doing but I've never heard of someone doing this kind of surgery and not having any kind of drain. I'm not a medical professional but this seems ridiculously dangerous.

[–] KissMyOvaries 15 points (+15|-0) Edited

OP has said that she’s always been male (in one of the replies). It’s just sad how brainwashed they all become. 😕

[–] kalina 13 points (+13|-0)

uuughhh why did i watch that?? if that came out of me I'd be panicking and running to the ER!! I honestly feel like something is really wrong with trans people's relationship to their bodies in the way that they jump into all these operations with no care or concern for the outcome and their physical health... and look at the scars, they are not even on the same height.

[–] UberBitchcraft 2 points (+2|-0)

Seriously, if that were me I'd cry all the way to the ER. How the hell is she so calm?? I would be horrified, and how is her mom so casual about it all, too?

I have a bad feeling about the outcome on this and all of these mutilations. This isn't going to end well.

[–] Goblin 12 points (+12|-0)

Gallagher is a quack who couldn't care less about her patients. She's a regularly featured on a certain fruit farm's SRS surgeons thread.

[–] starry 10 points (+10|-0)

There really is a subreddit for everything, isn't there?

[–] Gini 8 points (+8|-0)

No there is no subreddit for gender critical views and non for LGB without the T.

Everything else, yes.

[–] mountainwitch 7 points (+7|-0)

I don't know why but the video nearly had me in tears. Couldn't get through it. Hope she ends up okay.

[–] JeanD 4 points (+4|-0)

I saw it last night and did cry. This poor young woman hates her body so much she had risky surgery to remove healthy parts of it, and now she has a serious infection. Tragic.

[–] Totoro 5 points (+5|-0)

I feel a pit in my gut watching this, that poor woman has been duped into thinking she needed to have a painful, unnecessary, irreversible surgery, and now she's getting lovebombed and all this attention for it too. Just horrifying... What kind of a world is this.

Also, the mod's comment really is post-modern liberalism just in a nutshell: "OP is cute, transphobia is not." Don't challenge beauty standards and say it's not important to be attractive, instead say everyone is beautiful cute, because let's sprinkle in a little infantilization that also makes you sound haughty since you're an authority why not do whatever you want. And don't challenge sexism or society's need to shove people into confining gender boxes, just make more boxes!! You're not a masculine woman uncomfortable with the way society causes people to treat you and you've internalized the disgusting way men view your body until you feel like the disgust is internal, you're just a ~transman~ uwu pleasedonotlookbehindthecurtainsystemicchangewhatsthat And most of all, don't allow any debate or unique opinions whatsoever, especially if it's coming from women those bitches TERFS, comment removed account banned and reported.

(Sigh...)

[–] Researcher1536 4 points (+4|-0)

You hit the nail on the head by pointing out the OP's comment. In any point in history, we'd get this girl help, but now it's transphobia to sound the alarm that her body is actually leaking after a botched surgery. All of these enablers can rot. They're pied pipers.

[–] Totoro 1 points (+1|-0)

The enablers should absolutely be held responsible, especially the activists. While the medical institution backing and actually carrying out these procedures is the most guilty party for sure, I'm almost certain the trans-identified people who seek out these "treatments" never would have even heard of them let alone asked to get them if not for TRAs and enablers online feeding them the info in such a biased way (it's not a double mastectomy, it's "top surgery!" it's not reshaping and relocating skin tissue to attempt to look like genitals but will mever function like them, it's "sexual reassignment surgery!") and telling them it will make them happy before they even have a chance to think about it for themselves...

[–] SaltySkank 4 points (+4|-0)

Yeah, I spotted that mod's comment straight away too. They seem to be applying the typical, "anything and everything that isn't showering OP with praise and validation is TrAnSpHoBiA" approach judging by the deleted comments. That's a BIG pocket, and it looks red and angry before it gets popped. It's bad enough that she has huge, permanent scars all over her chest.. having a huge infection in it should be alarming, not.. whatever the hell it is being played off as. Funny?

Also, kudos to you for putting.. that into words. You're not a masculine woman uncomfortable with the way society causes people to treat you and you've internalized the disgusting way men view your body until you feel like the disgust is internal, you're just a ~transman~ uwu Fucking on point.

[–] lucrecia 2 points (+2|-0)

having a huge infection in it should be alarming, not.. whatever the hell it is being played off as. Funny?

Yeah, you see that and you realise that those commenters have NO idea what they're dealing with. The immaturity is mind-boggling; it made me wonder about their average age. Are they 10? And she's there like "I'm taking antibiotics just in case!". What do you mean, "just in case"?! You already have a bad infection that looks likely to spread to your blood, if it hasn't already! Those antibiotics are the only thing standing between you and death. Ffs.

[–] Totoro 1 points (+1|-0)

Every time I see a bunch of removed comments on reddit during a discussion about transgender people/ideology, I wonder if (hope) it's making those who wrote those deleted comments start to notice something's off, and question the movement and whether it's actually helping trans-identified people. Case in point, this very post is about a horrific-looking post-surgery infection, but according to the TRA mods if you express anything but support for the OP for having gotten the surgery you are wrong and transphobic. I'm hoping that sets off alarm bells in people, and not in a "Oh wow I need to check my 'cis privilege' I'm a bad ally!" way but a "Oh wow TRAs have really gone off the deep end and don't actually care about the people they claim to be fighting for" way.

I can't understand the post either, like you said, is it supposed to be funny, or quirky? Does the OP think it is? (I don't really understand the whole pimple popping thing honestly haha) Why would she feel comfortable recording and sharing something like this online in the first place? I really hope she's all right, physically and mentally/emotionally. Well I mean, she can't be if she chose to get a double mastectomy for no good medical reason...

Haha thank you! I am very fortunate to have not hung around tumblr in my formative years because that is exactly the road I would have went down, I can so clearly understand the train of thought leading to it and it makes me even more upset to see it being supported as it is. The sooner TRAs start actually listening to detrans people and actually understanding and recognizing sexism the better.

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