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Edit2: TRA have found this post. Just a heads up.

Edit: This is the sanitized summary of the incendiary text. I agree with the general overall message Lily made in her post, but not how she said it. You guys come to your own judgements.

If these men can’t slit the throats of these vile personas in public, [...] if you left it up to me, I’d execute every last one of them [personas] personally. [...] Lynch [the persona known as] Kaitlyn! Lynch [the persona known as] the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch [the persona known as] Laurel Hubbard! Lynch [the persona known as] Fallon Fox! Make these men [behind the personas] stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame."

For more reading, /u/Mikkal has done a more in-depth summary here.

==== Original Post ========

Welp. There we go. There's finally proof of a "TERF" actively wishing them harm.

Did she have to threaten violence?? She gave them fuel and they are roaring.

She's a lesbian and a porn actress who goes by Lily Cade. Her website is down (presumably from getting cancelled, ironically, because she was going on and on about how she can't be taken down) and there are no snapshots on archives I could find. Got it. Here it is, the archive of the full original post: https://archive.ph/43TBv (There is an unfortunate NSFW capture at the very bottom of the page of oral sex being performed, be warned.) It's viler than what was reported. I can't believe this. She calls the mothers she's addressing in her post "b!tches"!

Fucking thank you, Lily, for undoing the strides made and for proving people like Terra Field right about "people who don't want us to be (alive)".

Article: https://archive.ph/lyR4h | https://www.newsweek.com/anti-transgender-activist-quoted-bbc-calls-trans-women-lynched-1645231

Anti-Transgender Activist Quoted by BBC Calls For Trans Women to Be 'Lynched'

An anti-transgender activist recently quoted in a controversial BBC article posted online advocating for violence against transgender women and called for them to be lynched.

Lily Cade, a lesbian porn star who apologized amid a series of sexual assault allegations in 2017, was featured in a controversial BBC article that claims trans women pressure lesbians into sex.

In a post on her website called "Where the are these children's mothers," Cade characterized trans women as "vile, weak, disgusting whiny, fake-victim" and supported acts of violence against them.

"Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. Lynch Kaitlyn (Jenner)! Lynch the 'Sisters' Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!" the post read.

Cade continued to argue that trans women are not really women and said if it were up to her, she'd execute "every last one of them personally."

"They can't take down Lily Cade. She's already dead. I'm the bullet, b!tch, if you let me be. Who else has the balls, the brains, the voice, and the pitiless eyes to fight these mothers? I'm a f%cking soldier. You ready? I'm ready," Cade wrote.

She continued that the only transgender person she respects is Buck Angel because "she knows she made a horrifying mistake," called for trans women to die by suicide, likened them to Satan and implied gay marriage was a mistake.

Since the BBC published its article on October 26, it's faced huge backlash for the piece, which many have called transphobic and dangerous.

The article is primarily based on the experiences of anonymous lesbians who claim they have been threatened and shamed into having sex with transgender women.

Cade was described as "Porn Valley's Gold Star Lesbian" in the article for only ever having sex with other women but claimed she faced criticism for not wanting to sleep with trans women.

A number of anti-transgender LGB groups were cited in the article and utilized a study based on members already inside the organizations.

Trans Media Watch (TMW), a pro-transgender watchdog group, condemned the article.

"Either the BBC have failed to do due diligence on this story – or the team producing this story have knowingly colluded in a disinformation campaign targeted at trans people ... Irresponsible reporting like this is dangerous. It significantly and adversely impacts trans people's day-to-day lives," they wrote.

BBC defended the article and told LGBTQ media outlet Pink News that the topic is a "complex subject."

"It is important that journalism looks at issues – even where there are strongly held positions," the BBC said, defending the article. "The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide range of voices are heard."

Since the post on Cade's website—which has crashed—people are calling for the BBC to take action.

Fallon Fox's Tweet with screenshots from the now non-functioning lilycade.com website: https://archive.ph/AknuI | https://mobile.twitter.com/FallonFox/status/1455608366433136640

Transcript of screenshots with full context:

Speak truth to power. Trans women are men. They know they are men. If these men can't slit the throats of these vile personas in public, admit what they have done, take off the dress, look with abject shame upon the affront to God and nature they have wrought in the service of their masturbatory fantasies, apologize for the children they have hurt with their lies and their drugs and their grooming, apologize for the incarcerated women they have fed to rapist monsters, apologize for the lesbian spaces they have desecrated, and devote the rest of their lives to repairing the damage they have done, if you left it up to me, I'd execute every last one of them personally.

Cancel the ever living fuck out of this. Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. Lynch Kaitlyn! Lynch the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox! Make these men stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame. Your fear of the truth has shoveled thousands of children down the hole in Buffalo Bill's basement so he can harvest them for their skins. Enough is Enough.

Lily's twitter archive: https://archive.ph/OW3zF | https://mobile.twitter.com/lily_cade/status/1455559679984091139

I can't find the one about asking them to commit suicide and again, said site is down. All I have are Fallon's screenshots. See archive post in first paragraph for full context. I think it might be this line: "They threatened suicide [...] Fucking do it then!"

I'm unspeakably disappointed about this on so many fronts. Here we are saying, "none of us want them dead, no one wishes that, we just disagree that transwomen are women, please listen to us", and what does Lily do???

Edit2: TRA have found this post. Just a heads up. **Edit:** This is the sanitized summary of the incendiary text. I agree with the general overall message Lily made in her post, but not how she said it. You guys come to your own judgements. >If these men can’t slit the throats of **these vile personas** in public, *[...]* if you left it up to me, I’d execute every last one of them *[personas]* personally. *[...]* Lynch *[the persona known as]* Kaitlyn! Lynch *[the persona known as]* the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch *[the persona known as]* Laurel Hubbard! Lynch *[the persona known as]* Fallon Fox! Make **these men [*behind the personas*]** stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame." For more reading, /u/Mikkal has done a [more in-depth summary here](https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/47762). ==== Original Post ======== Welp. There we go. There's finally proof of a "TERF" actively wishing them harm. Did she *have* to threaten violence?? She gave them fuel and they are *roaring*. She's a lesbian and a porn actress who goes by Lily Cade. Her website is down (presumably from getting cancelled, ironically, because she was going on and on about how she can't be taken down) and ~~there are no snapshots on archives I could find.~~ **Got it. Here it is, the archive of the full original post: https://archive.ph/43TBv** (There is an unfortunate NSFW capture at the very bottom of the page of oral sex being performed, be warned.) It's viler than what was reported. I can't believe this. She calls the mothers she's addressing in her post "b!tches"! Fucking *thank you*, Lily, for undoing the strides made and for proving people like Terra Field right about "people who don't want us to be (alive)". **Article:** https://archive.ph/lyR4h | https://www.newsweek.com/anti-transgender-activist-quoted-bbc-calls-trans-women-lynched-1645231 **Anti-Transgender Activist Quoted by BBC Calls For Trans Women to Be 'Lynched'** >An anti-transgender activist recently quoted in a controversial BBC article posted online advocating for violence against transgender women and called for them to be lynched. >Lily Cade, a lesbian porn star who apologized amid a series of sexual assault allegations in 2017, was featured in a controversial BBC article that claims trans women pressure lesbians into sex. >In a post on her website called "Where the are these children's mothers," Cade characterized trans women as "vile, weak, disgusting whiny, fake-victim" and supported acts of violence against them. >"Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. **Lynch Kaitlyn (Jenner)! Lynch the 'Sisters' Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!**" the post read. >Cade continued to argue that trans women are not really women and said **if it were up to her, she'd execute "every last one of them personally."** >"They can't take down Lily Cade. She's already dead. I'm the bullet, b!tch, if you let me be. Who else has the balls, the brains, the voice, and the pitiless eyes to fight these mothers? I'm a f%cking soldier. You ready? I'm ready," Cade wrote. >She continued that the only transgender person she respects is Buck Angel because "she knows she made a horrifying mistake," **called for trans women to die by suicide, likened them to Satan and implied gay marriage was a mistake**. >Since the BBC published its article on October 26, it's faced huge backlash for the piece, which many have called transphobic and dangerous. >The article is primarily based on the experiences of anonymous lesbians who claim they have been threatened and shamed into having sex with transgender women. >Cade was described as "Porn Valley's Gold Star Lesbian" in the article for only ever having sex with other women but claimed she faced criticism for not wanting to sleep with trans women. >A number of anti-transgender LGB groups were cited in the article and utilized a study based on members already inside the organizations. >Trans Media Watch (TMW), a pro-transgender watchdog group, condemned the article. >"Either the BBC have failed to do due diligence on this story – or the team producing this story have knowingly colluded in a disinformation campaign targeted at trans people ... Irresponsible reporting like this is dangerous. It significantly and adversely impacts trans people's day-to-day lives," they wrote. >BBC defended the article and told LGBTQ media outlet Pink News that the topic is a "complex subject." >"It is important that journalism looks at issues – even where there are strongly held positions," the BBC said, defending the article. "The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide range of voices are heard." >Since the post on Cade's website—which has crashed—people are calling for the BBC to take action. Fallon Fox's Tweet with screenshots from the now non-functioning lilycade.com website: https://archive.ph/AknuI | https://mobile.twitter.com/FallonFox/status/1455608366433136640 Transcript of screenshots with full context: >Speak truth to power. Trans women are men. They know they are men. If these men can't slit the throats of these vile personas in public, admit what they have done, take off the dress, look with abject shame upon the affront to God and nature they have wrought in the service of their masturbatory fantasies, apologize for the children they have hurt with their lies and their drugs and their grooming, apologize for the incarcerated women they have fed to rapist monsters, apologize for the lesbian spaces they have desecrated, and devote the rest of their lives to repairing the damage they have done, **if you left it up to me, I'd execute every last one of them personally.** >Cancel the ever living fuck out of this. Cancel this so hard that no man dare walk the path of the trans woman in public ever again! Enough is enough. **Lynch Kaitlyn! Lynch the “Sisters” Wachowski! Lynch Laurel Hubbard! Lynch Fallon Fox!** Make these men stand up as the men you all know they are and hold them accountable for their shame. Your fear of the truth has shoveled thousands of children down the hole in Buffalo Bill's basement so he can harvest them for their skins. Enough is Enough. Lily's twitter archive: https://archive.ph/OW3zF | https://mobile.twitter.com/lily_cade/status/1455559679984091139 ~~I can't find the one about asking them to commit suicide and again, said site is down. All I have are Fallon's screenshots.~~ See archive post in first paragraph for full context. I think it might be this line: *"They threatened suicide [...] Fucking do it then!"* I'm unspeakably disappointed about this on so many fronts. Here we are saying, "none of us want them dead, no one wishes that, we just disagree that transwomen are women, please listen to us", and what does Lily do???

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Her words come across as though she is genuinely mentally disturbed and not taking her prescribed medications. Additionally, she is a rapist and her 'apology' for her serial sexual assaults reeks of narcissism.

She's abhorrent.

[–] bellatrixbells BoobatrixRex 18 points

I obviously don't condone the call to violence, but there is so much anger in that post, and the problem is I kind of get why someone would be that angry. She's talking about autogynephiles and pedophiles and other rapists. I've read works by men that celebrated wishing death upon pedophiles, and I never saw that much backlash so why is she getting so much ?

It seems to me that she's venting. It's heavy, redundant and vulgar and I didn't even get through the whole of it because of that. One thing I know though is that someone who calls women "bitch" several times in a sentence is probably not a feminist 🤷🏼‍♀️

[–] LOriginedumonde 40 points Edited

It’s very important that we make an example out of her and strongly condemn her statements, which is something that TRAs refuse to do with their own. Her statements are abhorrent and completely unacceptable.

Edit: It’s also quite silly to act as if a porn performer speaks for radical feminists who are staunchly against sex work and pornography but I suppose that no blow is too low once you’ve shut off all critical thought.

[–] [Deleted] 13 points Edited

I have no problem with condemning people like that. TRAs never will condemn the stuff that they send to women.

[–] MenHaveItEasy Moid Respecter 13 points

The thousands of TRAs who send death and rape threats do not care about radfems condemning what this woman said. They just want their proof that "terfs want us dead!", while still sending us death and rape threats. I bet Newsweek went looking for one troll to represent all TERFs because they're scared of all the sex abuse incidents in the news lately caused by TIMs. I'll go far enough to say that most of them arent even horrified by her words, because most of them are violent themselves. They're just happy to have one case that proves their strawman right.

Dont even bother with condemnation, because you'll be on the defense trying to explain that most radfems arent like this, when the argument should be about the actual cases of grooming, violence, threats, sexual harassment, and erosion of women's sex based rights caused by transgender activism.

Honestly, I admire her passion. Yes, her words were rough and offensive and full of violent metaphor, and her rhetoric fiery and furious - but on the whole and in principle, is she not saying what many of us are thinking? I can't condemn her for being angry and speaking that anger to the world.

No, I would never wish for any group to be lynched, ever. She is absolutely not saying what I am thinking. My anger doesn't extend to mass murder and never will.

I read it as a figurative lynching of the trans woman personas these men have adopted. She alludes to this earlier on in the piece when she talks of the redemption of such men.

[–] crodish [OP] 🤡🌏 12 points

And the part about personally going to execute them if she could? Was that figurative too?

She calls gays f@ggots, calls mothers b!tches, and basically wants everyone to go to hell in a handbasket. She's angry and upset and hurt and she's lashing out uncontrollably to the point where it's destructive not only to the people around her but to herself and the very cause she's fighting for.

That essay was not written by a rational person.

It reads like she is basically just having a mental breakdown and is spewing it all out. Meanwhile trans activists call for terfs to be raped and genocided on the daily and no1curr.

[–] viragoeternal 10 points Edited

it’s frankly incredibly disappointing to see all the tut tutting going on here, with zero compassion for this woman’s state of mind and the trauma she’s been through. demanding women keep a nice tone while talking about abuse doesn’t seem very radically feminist to me. good to know women are disposable when we don’t toe the party line. you wonder why there’s a recruitment problem… this lack of compassion for badly treated women who aren’t “PC” enough is it, cos that’s all the rest of us who don’t mind our b words when talking about a pedo cult taking over. I guarantee Lily Cade has been through more dark shit than you can ever imagine but I guess you’re one of those types who only consider women’s trauma relevant when it can be used to advance your agenda. shame on all of you, frankly. lily Cade is the broken whore you all love to trot out like a rhetorical football when it suits you, but the rest of the time she isn’t even human to you. especially cos she dares to act human and not like a walking feminist advertisement.

I agree. It's not her fault TRAs, who have no problem with threats and violence when it's coming from them, are desperate to grab one single woman who says violent things and try to use it to demonize all radfems. They've had no problem claiming radfems are threatening violence even without that one person. She's not to blame for their hypocrisy in trying to use her to make up lies about other radfems.

I'm all for her expressing her perspective and point of view. I'm entirely against hurting anyone, but she's talking about people who have tried to rape her (force her to have sex with a man despite being a lesbian and shame her when she refused), and the movement that backs and empowers those people and refuses to denounce them. I can understand someone feeling violently towards their attempted rapists and their enablers. I've thankfully never been in that situation, so I can't know what it would feel like or how I would act, and even then, some people deal with trauma differently. Even though I disagree with them, her feelings are as justified as anyone else's when they are expressing rightful contempt for their abusers.

I’m with you. People who’ve been traumatized aren’t always fit for a garden party. Especially women who have been broken on the wheel of pornography and prostitution. Aren’t these some of the women we’re supposed to be fighting for? Those in sex slavery? The results of sex slavery aren’t pretty. The results of pedophilia and pornography and prostitution aren’t pretty. The results of putting AGP pedophiles in metaphorical and literal charge of society is especially not pretty. At least the woman is telling the damn truth. In short, this is the legacy of having society centered around men’s dicks. And she calls out all of it. That especially isn’t pretty.

People have been twisting her words since the BBC article was published. Basically - people in the industry said she went too far, that they hurt her...

and she accepted that it doesn't matter her intent, she hurt people, and she didn't offer excuses she stood up and took responsibility for it.

When has a man ever done that?

They've twisted it to say "she admitted to be a serial rapist" - which isn't what she said at all. She was in porn. She attended industry parties where she was expected to perform for cameras and she did. She was on set and "got good performances" out of porn stars. And she hurt people along the way. All in the service to creating porn.

This is the norm in porn. The industry is full of abuse.

But when women stood up and spoke up and told her SHE was part of the problem? She accepted it, she didn't blame anyone else, she didn't blame the industry, she accepted it. She took responsibility for what she had done...

And she left the industry and got sober, and has been living a private life out of the public since.

You know how there are those subreddits that put up videos of mentally ill people having a breakdown? That's what this Newsweek article feels like.

I see this post, and it worries me that's she relapsing or in the midst of PTSD and needs help.

People don't realize that there is no consent in porn. They're all rapists, they're all hurting each other. I give some leeway for the women and the men who play "bottoms" in gay porn as they experience a unique sort of abuse in that industry.

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